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00:40 jom :o)) get it works! my SANDISK SD card is on a very bad shape the TDK one make it works! So that was just a hardware problem [SOLVED]
00:40 GrueMaster Excellent!
00:40 jom Bye & thanks to you GrueMaster for your help!
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00:58 TheMuso ogra_: In your request for the tegra ALC patches for alsa-lib, you mentioned related patches. What do you mean by this exactly? There is the patch you linked to, but I don't see any others in that thread...
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08:38 duga3 list ubuntu-arm
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09:07 AlexLee hello , does ubuntu11.10 for panda has no h264enc codec? i run the gst to encode h264 failed, who knows ?
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09:20 duga3 can anybody help me with ARM NEON?
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09:29 duga3 Good morning, can anybody help me with vector permutation using ARM NEON?
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11:24 ogra_ TheMuso, hey, i meant the other paz00/alc patches ... i dotn know if all of them made it into the recent version we have
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11:26 janimo GrueMaster, I am looking at the two main FTBFS you brought up. thanks
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12:42 ogra_ curses, seems my install is seriously scrwed :(
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12:48 ogra_ curses mono
12:49 janimo ogra_, what does mono do in your install?
12:49 ogra_ fail the assembly install from the postinst
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12:50 janimo but what requires it, it's not in default install right?
12:50 ogra_ note that my system got upgraded from natty over oneiric to precise, i have a lot of shit installed that shouldnt be there
12:50 ogra_ is just trying to get rid of mono
12:51 ogra_ also i hacked the alternatives for nvidiy-tegra, that fails too
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12:54 ogra_ tries to purge everything with -cil in the name, lets see if makes it any better
12:56 ogra_ silly mono crap .... and nobody to fix it :(
12:56 xranby ogra_: the latest mono at least installed on my machine but its asserting all the time
12:57 ogra_ right, for me it seems to already breal when the assembly update happens
12:57 ogra_ luckily we dropped it from the images
12:57 ogra_ still thats a basd situation
12:57 ogra_ *bad
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13:08 ogra_ grmbl
13:11 ogra_ update-alternatives: error: alternative nvidia_drv can't be slave of arm-linux-gnueabi_egl_conf: it is a slave of gl_conf
13:11 ogra_ i really wonder how i broke that
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13:12 xranby ogra_: i fixed it on my machine by removing the slave of gl_conf
13:13 ogra_ in the nvidia-tegra package ?
13:13 xranby i think the bug are simply that the old nvidia-tegra package added the slave for gl_conf
13:13 xranby so the bug is in the state saved in update-alternatives
13:14 ogra_ well, thats bad, the new package should have a fix for it
13:16 xranby i think i ran update-alternatives --remove gl_conf
13:16 xranby before configuring the new package
13:16 xranby it will remove gl_conf and all associated slaves
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13:19 xranby ogra_: try ask someone who better understand this alternative system
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13:19 xranby how the transition from non-multiarch to multiarch are supposed to work
13:19 ogra_ well, i know enough about alterbnatives, i'm just to lazy to weed through all the postinst scripts :P
13:20 xranby the QA team will have a fun time hitting all these upgrade QA issues
13:20 xranby when testing oneiric -> precise upgrades
13:21 ogra_ i dont think they test ac100 upgrades
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13:34 janimo ogra_, the alternatives issue I saw as well, but was not sure if it is not caused by my broken manual alternatives renaming earlier
13:34 janimo maybe preinst should have something to remove the early names indeed
13:35 janimo but I do not understand alternatives well either
13:35 ogra_ yeah, something like that ... i fiddled with the alternatives as well, though
13:36 ogra_ i think the prob is that egl is already a slave of gl ... the driver wants to create a slave for a slave
13:37 ogra_ purges mesas egl stuff for a test
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13:39 ogra_ hmm, intreasting, that removes gimp
13:40 xranby who would have guessed :)
13:40 xranby im surprised that gimp needs egl
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13:42 ogra_ well, it also installs a ton of QT packages that seem to have been held back
13:44 ogra_ i wonder if we missed a transition here
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14:33 NCommander cooloney: ok, I'm spinning a source package now with the change to changelog (guess I need to retag too :-/)
14:33 NCommander I'll dump my branch onto zinc once its done
14:34 NCommander cooloney: also need to delete all non-revelant changelog entries
14:35 cooloney NCommander: yeah, please send me patch
14:35 cooloney let me update the git tree
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14:36 NCommander cooloney: great
14:36 NCommander give me a sec to continue smacking
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14:36 NCommander argh
14:36 NCommander Freaking changelog manager
14:37 NCommander headthunks
14:37 ogra_ we have a manager for that ?
14:37 ogra_ how much does he earn per month ?
14:38 ogra_ :P
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14:39 NCommander hits ogra_ with a brick
14:40 ogra_ hey, one day i'll build a house... i already have a good collection of your bricks
14:41 NCommander his ogra_ with a rock
14:42 NCommander *hits
14:42 ogra_ reboots after that dist upgrade finally finished (that took half my workday, sigh)
14:42 ogra_ throws a mono stack at NCommander
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14:42 NCommander cuts it in half with his libO foo
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14:47 NCommander cooloney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/835214/ - plz apply
14:47 NCommander dumps linux-armadaxp into a PPA to testbuild properly
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14:50 dumby88 wm8650
14:51 cooloney NCommander: meta will be ready soon. thx janimo
14:52 NCommander uploading to a ppa now to testbuild (not sure all the necessary changes to get the _all packages to build prpoerly made it in)
14:53 NCommander going to go get some food, will return
14:53 janimo cooloney, you're welcome
14:54 cooloney janimo: for testing build meta, what's kind of build target should i use?
14:54 cooloney fdr clean; fdr binary?
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14:54 janimo hmm, I think I just used debuild -us -uc when testing
14:55 janimo as it builds very fast - nothing to actually build but the metadatat under debian/
14:55 janimo what you say is equivalent I guess
14:55 cooloney janimo: yeah, i got it
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15:03 cooloney NCommander: i saw you patch, did you miss to change 3.0.0 to 3.0.17?
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15:08 NCommander cooloney: infinity gave a good reason not to include it
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15:08 cooloney NCommander: i miss that reason, why?
15:09 cooloney NCommander: let me change back the meta package from 3.0.17 to 3.0.0
15:09 NCommander cooloney: because its a leftoer when we used 2.6.x, including the sub-minor just means the version number cahnges a LOT and is a pain
15:09 cooloney NCommander: looks like we have to stick to the tradition
15:09 cooloney yeah
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15:18 cooloney NCommander: how about i fold your patch to my previous commit
15:18 cooloney NCommander: and i will push out this change again
15:18 NCommander cooloney: that's fine. you'll probably get a few more patches as I'm not sure this will build onteh buildds (doing a PPA test build to check)
15:20 cooloney NCommander: great
15:22 cooloney NCommander: meta package is here, git://kernel.ubuntu.com/roc/linux-meta-armadaxp.git
15:22 NCommander great
15:22 cooloney NCommander: please help to review and upload.
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15:23 cooloney or the gitweb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=roc/linux-meta-armadaxp.git/.git;a=summary
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15:33 cooloney NCommander: kernel git tree is also updated with your patch
15:33 cooloney gonna go to sleep
15:33 cooloney good night, folks
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15:44 NCommander cooloney: sleep well
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15:50 janimo ogra_, are the armhf omap sgx drivers coming?
15:50 ogra_ janimo, at some point, yeah ... with dropping of el
15:51 janimo NCommander, cooloney wonder why is linux-armadaxp building for i386 too
15:51 ogra_ TI will only support one
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15:51 NCommander janimo: arch-all voodoo, whichis why I wanted to do a test build to see if it actually will build properly.
15:51 ogra_ for the brave that want to run armada kernels on pentiums :)
15:51 janimo ogra_, are they waiting for something or next release will automatically be armhf?
15:51 ogra_ janimo, next will ... they dont have time and manpower, so we have to wait
15:52 janimo ok
15:52 ogra_ finally finds the time to test janimo's new kernel ...
15:52 janimo do we wait with switching images over to armhf only until they arrive?
15:52 ogra_ though thats probably brave right before a meeting :)
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15:52 janimo ogra_, heh, as long as you don't suspend it should not be an issue :)
15:52 ogra_ janimo, nope, we switch when we switch ... up to them to react then
15:53 janimo ah, they may not want to put any effort in it until it is 100% 12.04 is armhf primarily
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15:54 ogra_ installs
15:54 janimo sure. what about nvidia/ac100? Not sure if they even promised armhf this cycle
15:54 ogra_ no idea
15:54 ogra_ likely not
15:55 janimo I'd still switch to armhf by default on ac100
15:55 ogra_ same thing for omap3 ... ask rsalveti about that one
15:55 janimo ok, in today's meeting probably
15:55 ogra_ yeah, me too i guess, though that means a cross grade or some such for me ... i dont want to lose all my data
15:56 xranby nvidia have produced armhf drivers for meego in the past
15:56 ogra_ reboots into new kernel
15:56 xranby do we have any nvidia person to ask directly?
15:56 janimo wonders what kind of unbackupable/unrestorable heaps of data may ogra's ac100 hold that he cannot just wipe and reinstall armhf
15:57 xranby i doubt they will support it officially but they may create an armhf build for distribution with a specific distribution
15:57 janimo xranby, well a binary dump as their current driver is would suffuce
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16:05 xranby the build will then be uploaded to NV online for use by a specific distribution
16:06 xranby this request can possibly be made by someone with influence in the oem team
16:06 janimo xranby, yes, I know some of them work with nvidia occasionally
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16:08 xranby try pull one of those strings, i think thats the only way to get a driver into armhf at this point
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16:09 janimo xranby, last I heard we needed a new armel rebuild for the new x11 abi. But I am not sure if that arrived or not
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16:10 ogra_ janimo, that happened two uploads before you touched the package ;)
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16:10 xranby janimo: for armel nvidia was kind to at least include a v11 abi version next to the v10 abi version
16:10 xranby in the same upstream tarball
16:10 xranby so i think we have that allready :)
16:11 ogra_ yep
16:11 ogra_ is currently using it
16:11 janimo well I saw xabi6 through 11 in the upstream binaries but was not sure the last one was ok or needed a newer rebuild
16:11 ogra_ and given ui checked the changelog today i can say that it was switched at -0ubuntuX still
16:11 ogra_ it has issues with the 11 abi though
16:12 ogra_ i have a lot of composite messups on my screen
16:12 janimo ogra_, yes, I think that is what I remembered, it may not be 'the final abi11 rebuild'
16:12 ogra_ hopefully
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16:13 ogra_ so i'll keep it running, hoping the best from nvidia
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19:48 pbuckley no usb-creator for arm?
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19:50 GrueMaster apparently not. Odd, considering it is just a python script (I think).
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19:55 GrueMaster Probably because it depends on i386/amd64 only packages (syslinux).
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20:26 infinity GrueMaster: Definitely because of that, in fact.
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20:30 pbuckley GrueMaster: btw i tried applying those two patches that were posted on that analog sound -panda board bug and no love
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20:31 GrueMaster Ok, good to know. make sure you update the bug report. Thanks.
20:32 pbuckley ah you mean i need to create a launchpad account
20:32 pbuckley ;)
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20:32 pbuckley (totally joking, ill update the bug)
20:32 GrueMaster heh
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20:40 pbuckley comment posted
20:41 pbuckley and a little more info added
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21:07 GrueMaster btw: Do you have a Panda or a Panda ES?
21:07 GrueMaster pbuckley: ^^^
21:08 pbuckley es
21:08 pbuckley have two of em on my desk right now
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21:09 pbuckley one is my desktop, the other is my development target
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21:09 GrueMaster I think the alsaucm rules need to be changed for that system.
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21:10 pbuckley any idea what too? my alsa foo is non-existant other then knowing where the config files exist
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21:12 GrueMaster I'm booting up to look.
21:13 pbuckley cool thank you
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21:17 GrueMaster I think there may be a couple of places this needs fixing. First, /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-ucm.rules, then /usr/share/alsa/ucm.
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21:22 GrueMaster The 90-alsa-ucm.rules is a simple fix. Just run "sudo sed -i 's/Panda/Panda|PandaES/g' /lib/udev/90-alsa-ucm.rules".
21:23 GrueMaster The /usr/share/alsa/ucm part is a little more involved. Need to copy the Panda directory to PandaES, then edit all the files inside to reflect PandaES instead of Panda.
21:25 pbuckley vi sweet
21:25 pbuckley my ears thank you.. trying it now
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21:31 GrueMaster I'll file a new bug on alsa-utils & libasound2, then go about getting them fixed. Even if the kernel is still borked, they will need these fixes.
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21:33 infinity GrueMaster: Yay, I get to duplicate that code again? :)
21:34 GrueMaster ???
21:34 infinity GrueMaster: The alsa ucm bits.
21:34 infinity I suppose we can just ship symlinks.
21:35 infinity Oh, no. We can't,
21:35 infinity Cause the board ID is in the files.
21:35 infinity *grumble*
21:35 GrueMaster Oh. Nah, simple fix. Already on it.
21:35 infinity Now I remember why I copied it all.
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21:36 GrueMaster I got this one. You can fix ksysguardd. :P
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21:36 infinity Heh.
21:36 infinity Or, I can attend more meetings!
21:36 infinity \o/
21:38 pbuckley meetings, huzzah!
21:39 GrueMaster Meetings == snooze time.
21:40 pbuckley $ alsaucm -c PandaES set _verb HiFi
21:40 pbuckley Im setting defaults
21:40 pbuckley ALSA lib main.c:276:(execute_sequence) unable to execute cset 'name='HS Left Playback' 1'
21:40 pbuckley ALSA lib main.c:1460:(set_verb_user) error: failed to initialize new use case: HiFi
21:40 pbuckley alsaucm: error failed to set _verb=HiFi: No such file or directory
21:40 pbuckley i probably foobar'd something
21:40 pbuckley hrmm
21:43 pbuckley for file in *; do sudo sed -i 's/Panda/PandaES/g' $file; done
21:43 pbuckley basically just did that
21:43 pbuckley in the /usr/share/alsa/ucm/PandaES directory
21:43 pbuckley (ill just wait for you to commit a fix)
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21:45 GrueMaster wip. Any chance you can post your new shiney kernel (just the uImage) for me to test here?
21:45 GrueMaster Otherwise I'll have to rebuild it.
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21:48 TheMuso ogra_: afaik those other patches are for the kernel I think.
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21:50 pbuckley yeh, where do you want it?
21:50 pbuckley i have the deb's too if you want
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21:50 GrueMaster Someplace accessible.
21:50 pbuckley hrm that might tricky.. can you do dcc?
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21:51 GrueMaster I might. Not sure if quassel-core can handle it. Give it a whirl, worst case it blows up my rack of servers. :P
21:51 pbuckley heh
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21:52 pbuckley get it?
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21:52 GrueMaster TheMuso: I'm getting ready to patch alsa-libs & alsa-utils for PandaES. Should I just push them into bzr branches or do you want me to push to alsa-project as well?
21:53 pbuckley 12:52 DCC SEND request sent to gruemaster: linux-image-3.2.0-1405-omap4_3.2.0-1405.7+soundfix_armhf.deb
21:53 GrueMaster pbuckley: I see the request. Not sure how to handle it. One sec.
21:53 pbuckley /dcc accept?
21:54 GrueMaster hrm.
21:54 ogra_ TheMuso, oh, ok, i just noticed that there were more patches in the list archive, if its all kernel it should be fine
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21:55 pbuckley unfortunately the deb is 20MB which is a little to big for my email system.. lets see if i can sneak it on a web server
21:55 TheMuso GrueMaster: Push them into a bzr branch for now. I was actually going to ask you guys about the ucm files for the ARM stuff, we currently carry that. DO you want it all to go upstream?
21:55 GrueMaster pbuckley: No dice. Quassel doesn't support it yet. Give me a minute.
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21:55 pbuckley k
21:56 TheMuso BTW how is armhf looking for precise, as in supportability etc?
21:56 GrueMaster TheMuso: I think they should, yes. I haven't updated my alsa git trees in ages, but it isn't a big deal.
21:56 GrueMaster armhf is rock solid (with a few cracks).
21:56 pbuckley ive been having pretty good luck with armhf
21:56 TheMuso Ok, I know they are not upstream yet.
21:57 TheMuso I presume such cracks are no big deal, i.e they are not major.
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21:58 GrueMaster pbuckley: Ok, send it to my other nick (GrueMaster-web).
21:58 pbuckley sent
21:59 pbuckley 12:59 gruemaster-web SEND: 0B of 19MB (0%) - 0.00kB/s - ETA (stalled) -
21:59 pbuckley how big can attachments be on gmail?
21:59 pbuckley lets see
22:00 GrueMaster Not sure, but it should be smaller than the dirty jokes my mother sends. Email away.
22:00 pbuckley lol
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22:00 pbuckley email?
22:00 pbuckley (address that is)
22:00 GrueMaster gruemaster@gmail.com (what else would I be :P)
22:01 pbuckley leet
22:01 pbuckley sending
22:01 pbuckley my internet here isn't the fastest.. give it like 10min
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22:02 GrueMaster np.
22:02 GrueMaster Not like I have nothing else to do. :P
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22:05 GrueMaster rsalveti: Linaro is already working on the alsa-ucm??? Good to know.
22:05 pbuckley k
22:05 pbuckley it should be sent
22:05 pbuckley let me know if you need the headers deb too
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22:16 pbuckley GrueMaster: receive the email ok?
22:16 GrueMaster yes, installing now. thx
22:17 pbuckley no no, thank you :)
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22:45 GrueMaster WOOT! Sweet stereo analog on Panda ES is back.
22:46 GrueMaster Dosen't help that they change the control names for every release.
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22:48 pbuckley sweet, so that kernel worked?
22:49 gandhijee_ hello. could someone point me to a hardfp build of ubuntu?
22:49 gandhijee_ nm
22:49 gandhijee_ i am silly.
22:49 GrueMaster Between your kernel and me mucking with the ucm config files, yes.
22:49 pbuckley nice! thats great news.. that just means im doing something stupid
22:50 GrueMaster I'm going to pasebin the /usr/share/alsa/ucm/PandaES/hifi file for you. Hang on.
22:50 pbuckley thank you
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22:51 GrueMaster http://paste.ubuntu.com/8358000
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22:51 GrueMaster Oops. remove one 0
22:52 pbuckley got it.. brb going to reboot with that kernel
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22:52 GrueMaster Make the ucm change first. That way you only need one reboot.
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23:26 pbuckley I HAVE SOUND!
23:26 pbuckley :D
23:27 pbuckley thanks GrueMaster
23:28 GrueMaster Excellent.
23:30 rsalveti GrueMaster: the multimedia working group is trying to get it properly fixed
23:30 rsalveti for all the boards
23:31 GrueMaster Great.
23:31 rsalveti it's a working in progress atm, but tgall_foo is also trying to get it working at our images
23:31 rsalveti so then we can simply push a new change to precise
23:31 rsalveti and get it all working not one day before the release :-)
23:31 Dr_Who yes .. "work in progress" is important to keep in mind
23:32 TheMuso Feature freeze is also important to keep in mind...
23:32 TheMuso I'd prefer having any ucm configs in precise by FF.
23:33 GrueMaster The "Work in progress" part bothers me a bit. This is a simple fix. I have it working here out of tree (took 10 minutes). I can easily push it to alsa-lib and alsa-utils and have it working in the next image (assuming the kernel update also lands soon).
23:34 pbuckley (ive duplicated the success for what its worth)
23:35 TheMuso GrueMaster: alsa-utils is currently being tested at least for x86 in ~ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa, so what would you prefer be done? Wait till they come out of testing and are uploaded to precise proper, or get them uploaded now, and merged back when the update to 1.0.25 of alsa-utils is done?
23:36 GrueMaster TheMuso: The alsa-utils fix is just a fix for 90-alsa-ucm.rules (and I need to check to see if it even needs fixing).
23:36 GrueMaster The other part is alsa-lib which has the ucm config changes.
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23:37 GrueMaster I haven't checked, but I don't think they are upstream.
23:39 Dr_Who GrueMaster: it is being developed upstream but you're right I don't believe it's captured in a current alsa release , wei_feng would know for sure
23:39 Dr_Who points to #linaro-multimedia tho i don't see feng at the mo
23:39 GrueMaster Dr_Who: I'm updating my alsa-project git trees now and not seeing anything.
23:39 GrueMaster (not counting the drivers).
23:40 Dr_Who I'd recommend talking to Feng, he's the expert
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23:59 GrueMaster pbuckley: Looks like the fix is even easier than I thought. No need to change /lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-ucm.rules. Just a minor tweek to the ucm configs (sudo sed -i 's/HS/Headset' /usr/alsa/ucm/Panda/*) and it works.