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12:42 HammerTux hello is anybody can teach me about haret.exe
12:43 phh what do you want to know about it ?
12:47 HammerTux i want to know now to edit startup.txt
12:47 phh ?
12:47 phh with a file editor ? :D
12:48 HammerTux wht no should mtype be
12:48 phh the mtype of your device
12:48 HammerTux how to get the mtype
12:49 HammerTux my device is SE faith
12:50 phh you've got a kernel for it ... ?
12:51 Alex[sp3dev] you can just disable all boards except one in kernel and any mtype will work
12:51 HammerTux is it zimage.ext ?
12:52 HammerTux i m very beginner
12:52 HammerTux i read a lot but still dont really understand
12:54 Alex[sp3dev] look, if there is a port for your device already, just use it. if there is none, keep in mind that in 99% the kernel for other device will not even boot despite having the same cpu. in that case, you'll have to learn to compile kernel from sources and disable everything except framebuffer driver
12:54 zeusk mtype is like an identification number which tells linux what board files to use, every board has a unique id and is fixed.
12:54 zeusk Do what alex says.
12:55 HammerTux no port for SE faith yet.. im using Topaz
12:59 HammerTux looks like i have to begin from start again
13:14 HammerTux is there any available tutorial to learn compile the kernel. wht basic do i need for beginner
13:17 Cotulla what is main idea to have unique id?
13:18 Alex[sp3dev] the idea is that you can have more than one board with the same cpu in one zImage
13:19 Cotulla u can do it via other ways I believe
13:25 zeusk but what is the benefit of supporting multiple boards with the same cpu (atleast in embedded space where space is crucial) ?
13:26 phh space .. crucial ?
13:26 phh supporting another board is max 100kB
13:26 Alex[sp3dev] for example, take a look at XDANDROID that uses unified kernel for all devices. and generally with over 300mb ram, size is not crucial
13:27 Alex[sp3dev] besides, in linux, you can save space by using __initdata attributes
13:27 zeusk but most of the linux boards are not like htc and samsung phones with gb of storage and so much ram.
13:27 zeusk hmm
13:30 Cotulla maybe
13:30 Cotulla but they could detect dev type inside board init
13:30 Cotulla and use it later
13:31 Cotulla I ran same binary CE kernel on 3 different phones and 2 different CPUs :P
13:31 Cotulla but maybe it's not bad feature, but sometimes irritate ofcourse
13:32 Alex[sp3dev] Cotulla: you cannot always detect board from code if some gpios or registers are not use for storing the ID. But on the other hand, bootloader is flashed once and you can just hardcode it there and then use the same image for multiple devices (that's what we've been doing with tf101 and a500 ;)
13:32 Cotulla yes
13:32 zeusk but with so many boards, very hard to detect or differentiate boards when bootloader can pass just a few chars to ease it so much.
13:32 Cotulla it's question of hardware already
13:32 Cotulla linux somehow wants to run on all
13:32 zeusk it wants to take over the world.
13:32 Cotulla is it possible to mix ARMv5 & ARMv7 inside kernel?
13:33 Cotulla but the problem that real people usually are working on 1-2 boards at the same time. they have not target to run it on any arm board
13:33 Alex[sp3dev] Cotulla: i think there were efforts to do that, but probably no one did it because anything below armv7 is irrelevant
13:34 Cotulla lol wh0t?
13:34 Alex[sp3dev] in fact, having support for multiple boards is really useful for tablet pcs and netbooks and mostly useless for others
13:34 Cotulla maybe
13:35 Cotulla how is ur tablet btw?
13:35 Alex[sp3dev] but you can disable the boards you do not need and it won't waste precious memory, so why complain?
13:35 zeusk ^^ that is what i said some time ago.
14:17 Cotulla precious cool
14:20 zeusk o.o what is precious cool ?
14:22 Cotulla DM sound
14:23 zeusk lol, im playing pokemon in gb emulator on leo.
14:23 zeusk it is so better than original gba crap
14:23 Alex[sp3dev] DM FTMFW
14:24 zeusk uhm, what is DM ?
14:24 Cotulla lol
14:24 Alex[sp3dev] zeusk: Depeche Mode of course
14:24 Cotulla ya
14:25 Cotulla do u like anything from it, Alexx?
14:26 Alex[sp3dev] Cotulla: almost everything
14:26 Cotulla ;)
14:27 Cotulla I prefer an early albums, they are more powerful and energy ;)
14:27 Alex[sp3dev] my favorite song is probably Strangelove
14:27 Cotulla haha yeah
14:27 Cotulla I like it too very
14:27 Alex[sp3dev] especially the "I give in to sin" part.
14:28 Cotulla do u prefer USA or UK version?
14:29 Alex[sp3dev] the one from 87 Music for the masses
14:30 Alex[sp3dev] the UK version that is
14:30 Cotulla UK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYeH2LeFOhk USA: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs1xpKv2xdI&feature=related
14:30 Cotulla yeah I like more UK too
14:31 Cotulla what about "Black Celebration"? ;)
14:31 Alex[sp3dev] wait.. either my music library is messed up or what but i have the USA version in the 1987 album. I like that intro sound more
14:31 Cotulla hm
14:39 Cotulla what "timer pop" means?
21:26 zeusk apt help