| 00:20 | fiinix | hey Cotulla! :D |
| 00:21 | fiinix | >did not have irc up |
| 00:22 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:34 | Cotulla | hi loller |
| 00:34 | arrrghhh | wassup Cotulla |
| 00:35 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:35 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 00:35 | Cotulla | something evil |
| 00:39 | arrrghhh | well, you are Russian |
| 00:44 | Cotulla | gotta go bb |
| 13:30 | laurentiu__ | ey guys |
| 13:31 | zeusk | hey |
| 13:31 | nyl | tipe to reinstall linux on my laptop |
| 13:31 | nyl | what distro should i use now |
| 13:31 | zeusk | better ask that in -chat unless you use an htc laptop |
| 13:31 | nyl | for android kernel development |
| 14:36 | zeusk | y0 |
| 14:37 | Cotulla | 100110110100001010101001010101010101111110000000011000010 |
| 14:39 | zeusk | misaligned memory access.. you evil person, x86 no allow misaligned memory access |
| 14:39 | Cotulla | man lol |
| 14:39 | Cotulla | ? |
| 14:39 | Cotulla | x96 always allowed |
| 14:39 | Cotulla | *x86 |
| 14:39 | Cotulla | lol? |
| 14:40 | zeusk | i disabled that :p |
| 14:40 | Cotulla | u can't |
| 14:40 | zeusk | giving me buss error when i try that |
| 14:40 | zeusk | wait |
| 14:40 | zeusk | __asm__("pushf\norl $0x40000,(%esp)\npopf"); |
| 14:41 | zeusk | it enables check for aligned memory |
| 14:41 | Cotulla | nobody will enable that :) |
| 14:41 | zeusk | and my program get's bus error if i try misaligned access |
| 14:41 | zeusk | should have used malloc instead :/ |
| 14:41 | zeusk | btw what is that ? |
| 14:42 | Cotulla | u fail |
| 14:42 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:42 | Cotulla | :D |
| 14:42 | zeusk | looks like double encryption or not ascii code. |
| 14:42 | Cotulla | people prefer to enable misaligned access |
| 14:42 | zeusk | UTF ? |
| 14:43 | Cotulla | òù |
| 14:43 | Cotulla | no |
| 14:43 | zeusk | o.o i am getting ›B©U_€a |
| 14:43 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:43 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:43 | Cotulla | u should think more wide |
| 14:43 | zeusk | hmmm |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | more wide |
| 14:44 | zeusk | 8250b leo processor model ? |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | seriously |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:44 | zeusk | lol |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | :D :D :D D |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | it's results from CotullaRand_GetBit() :D |
| 14:44 | zeusk | :| |
| 14:44 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:45 | Cotulla | 40E |
| 14:45 | zeusk | i told you it is not ascii :/ |
| 14:45 | Cotulla | ok ;) |
| 14:46 | zeusk | dd if=/russia/Cotulla of=/dev/null |
| 14:46 | Cotulla | heh |
| 14:47 | Cotulla | erase \earth\*zeusk* |
| 14:47 | EdLin | n |
| 14:47 | EdLin | hi |
| 14:48 | zeusk | looks like your code for random bits is not random ? i observe a pattern, (when put into 8bit aligned and translate into ascii) |
| 14:48 | Cotulla | :D |
| 14:48 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:48 | Cotulla | hi |
| 14:48 | zeusk | or maybe because the probability is 50/50 for bits |
| 14:50 | zeusk | hmm, html encode for that is B©U_€a, so maybe you meant "BCUEA" ? |
| 14:50 | Cotulla | lol |
| 14:50 | Cotulla | FORGOT IT |
| 14:50 | zeusk | lol |
| 16:18 | zeusk | apt seen zeusk |
| 16:37 | h2o | hello everyone |
| 16:37 | h2o | i have a couple of questions to ask, anyone here with enough free time and willing to help? :) |
| 16:38 | h2o | i have a htc touch hd (blackstone) with wm 6.1 installed (i think it's the OS that came with the phone) ... (i got it from my brother in law) |
| 16:39 | h2o | i have read a lot of threads on different forums regarding the usage of Android OS with this phone |
| 16:40 | h2o | people talking about running the Android from a sd-card |
| 16:40 | h2o | my questions are the following: |
| 16:40 | h2o | Does this phone really meet the requirements to run android on it? |
| 16:41 | h2o | Wouldn't it be pretty slow as it is booted from a memory card? |
| 16:41 | h2o | Does this mean the phone would be running wmo and android at the same time? |
| 16:42 | h2o | Is there any chance that doing such a thing would brake my phone's hardware and make it useless? |
| 16:44 | NetRipper | the first android phones had a similar cpu, so yes, the hardware requirements would be met.. but the newer android versions would not run smooth as the gfx chip is outdated |
| 16:44 | Alex[sp3dev] | it would be incredibly slow compared to modern android phones but not because of sd card. once Linux is started, winmo is not running until a reboot. and it can surely break the phone. no phones are reported dead, but the standard disclaimer applies |
| 16:45 | h2o | ok... |
| 16:45 | NetRipper | yes, it would be slow to boot and run.. nand is so much faster but touch hd does not have enough nand (if it would even be working in linux) |
| 16:45 | DuperMan | wow, you're being kind to him for the novelty xD h2o, the forums are your best hope mate |
| 16:45 | h2o | i use linux on my pc alot |
| 16:45 | h2o | kind of like the idea of having it on my phone too |
| 16:45 | NetRipper | basically, there is no proper android support for the touch hd |
| 16:46 | NetRipper | so if you're thinking of going to use android on your touch hd, forget about it |
| 16:46 | Cotulla | yeah MSM7k + Android == nolove |
| 16:46 | h2o | yes but alot of posts on the forum are missplaced and make it hard to get the info you actually need.... |
| 16:46 | h2o | a little pain in the ass to read 100 pages of posts |
| 16:46 | DuperMan | h2o - the short version is "no" |
| 16:46 | h2o | i thought i'd get faster answers here |
| 16:46 | h2o | :) |
| 16:46 | NetRipper | touch hd only boots android up to the point of "look, i see some nice colors and it kind of looks like android" |
| 16:47 | h2o | NetRipper that's what i wanted to hear |
| 16:47 | DuperMan | wm6.1 is awesome though... was. |
| 16:47 | NetRipper | someone ban this man |
| 16:47 | DuperMan | lots of cool stuff should be around for it |
| 16:47 | DuperMan | lol. hey, it IS. |
| 16:47 | h2o | if it would actually give me a full android experience or just a fun test |
| 16:47 | Alex[sp3dev] | NetRipper: oh no, nand is not much faster than a decent sd card. and it does have enough nand, we're running off nand on kovs and rhod without problems |
| 16:47 | h2o | wm 6.1 sux |
| 16:48 | h2o | i like symbian more.... can you imagine that? |
| 16:48 | h2o | :D |
| 16:48 | NetRipper | i can imagine, yes |
| 16:48 | Cotulla | true Alex |
| 16:48 | NetRipper | oh the touch hd has 512mb |
| 16:48 | DuperMan | no, I can't. I'm back to chat, got nothing more to contribute to this discussion even if I do feel like protecting wm :P have fun h2o |
| 16:48 | Alex[sp3dev] | basically, msm7k is too slow for anything above hvga |
| 16:48 | NetRipper | DuperMan ;) |
| 16:49 | h2o | DuperMan tnx ;D |
| 16:49 | Cotulla | or maybe it's google engineers |
| 16:49 | DuperMan | :) |
| 16:49 | Cotulla | WM worked rather fast on WVGA |
| 16:49 | Alex[sp3dev] | no, it did not |
| 16:49 | h2o | well it does work faster than symbian phones, and it's got a nice looking UI, but it lacks applications, and does not provide much costumization options |
| 16:49 | Cotulla | on RHO rather fast |
| 16:49 | NetRipper | if (msm7k) sleep(100); // just to piss off people |
| 16:50 | Cotulla | as well android is slow on 800 Mhz MSM7630 |
| 16:50 | Alex[sp3dev] | if you run simple 2d drawing in android, it is about the same as winmo. but notice that start menu scrolling in wm6.5 is also slow and with tearing |
| 16:50 | DuperMan | k, gotta interject once again - my hx4700 and hx27xx differ |
| 16:50 | DuperMan | >< |
| 16:50 | h2o | and i don't need all that windows sync options.... i use linux on my pc |
| 16:50 | h2o | ,D |
| 16:50 | Cotulla | it just internal architecture problem |
| 16:50 | h2o | so...if i want to have android on my phone |
| 16:51 | h2o | i should just buy myself a galaxy s2? |
| 16:51 | h2o | ;D |
| 16:51 | Cotulla | drop it and buy new |
| 16:51 | Alex[sp3dev] | h2o: as a galaxy s2 owner i do not recommend getting one |
| 16:51 | h2o | it's 2 expensive :( |
| 16:51 | Cotulla | Alex why? :D |
| 16:51 | NetRipper | as a galaxy s2 owner, i do recommend one lol |
| 16:51 | Cotulla | I don't recommend to buy any samsung crap |
| 16:51 | Alex[sp3dev] | screen sucks. too low res for 4.3 inch and looks bad with low backlight |
| 16:51 | DuperMan | you could steal one in theory. get nexus. sgs2 is a weird affair, from a user's perspective looking up at you devs :P |
| 16:51 | NetRipper | oh god i so disagree |
| 16:52 | Cotulla | NetRipper, why? |
| 16:52 | h2o | Alex[sp3dev] i heard that the new ericson (don't know the model name though) is cheaper and has the same performance |
| 16:52 | h2o | is it true? |
| 16:52 | NetRipper | the screen is heavenly.. |
| 16:52 | Cotulla | haha |
| 16:52 | Alex[sp3dev] | compared to msm, samsung is lots of time better. at least they have almost everything including camera in 1. open source and 2. in mainline linux. and no arm9 that crashes all the time |
| 16:52 | DuperMan | NetRipper: the contrast is brilliant, the res is fail |
| 16:52 | NetRipper | i love the colors.. the res might be a little lower than the qhd of sensation, but thats like the only downside |
| 16:52 | Cotulla | dunno but I hate SuperAMOLED which installed in Samsung Focus |
| 16:53 | h2o | ok guys thanks for your quick replies |
| 16:53 | DuperMan | h2o: join #htc-linux-chat |
| 16:53 | Cotulla | NetRipper, and white is blue? |
| 16:53 | NetRipper | i dont have that problem fortunately |
| 16:53 | NetRipper | but i heard about it yes |
| 16:53 | h2o | DuperMan i already have... but i also already got my answers here from you guys |
| 16:53 | Cotulla | all AMOLED display which I saw all had bad white |
| 16:54 | NetRipper | the white is only blue if i tilt the device |
| 16:54 | NetRipper | but looking at it, its fine |
| 16:54 | Cotulla | ;) |
| 16:54 | Cotulla | as well samsung copy case from apple |
| 16:54 | DuperMan | my white is white, and in codeworxx's cm9 it's pretty dang glorious. |
| 16:55 | Cotulla | on LEO white is white. I agree :D |
| 16:55 | Cotulla | and black is mirror |
| 16:55 | h2o | anyway i think it's a little to soon to be jumping on new android phones.... they're 2 expensive... i will rather wait for a year or 2 and get one for a low price, which runs android fast and with no problems |
| 16:55 | DuperMan | >< I'm without a Leo since june. send me your Leo Cotulla! |
| 16:55 | NetRipper | in dutch we have a saying, but i dont know the english... its like "better to steal something good then to invent something bad" |
| 16:56 | Cotulla | they never will run Android fast :D |
| 16:56 | h2o | and frankly i don't like the idea of having a phone that's bigger than my palm |
| 16:56 | h2o | it makes no sense |
| 16:56 | DuperMan | h2o: nokia 3310i |
| 16:56 | NetRipper | i have a leo biting dusthehe |
| 16:56 | h2o | hahaha |
| 16:56 | h2o | no...something as thin as possible |
| 16:56 | Alex[sp3dev] | i'm using sgs2 as a good old pda ;). like those ipaqs back in 2006 |
| 16:56 | h2o | and light as possible |
| 16:56 | DuperMan | NetRipper: bastard. I SOOOO miss my Leo :( |
| 16:57 | h2o | it is a phone.... |
| 16:57 | GNUtoo | but with mainline kernel....priceless |
| 16:57 | NetRipper | such a waste alex, it's a proper gaming machine, especially with hdmi cable and bluetooth controller <3 |
| 16:57 | h2o | if i need a computer i'd carry my laptop with me |
| 16:57 | Cotulla | how is turn off mmu Alex there? |
| 16:57 | Cotulla | I remember u complains about problems |
| 16:57 | h2o | and have full functional linux on it ;D |
| 16:57 | Alex[sp3dev] | h2o: my phone is philips xenium x513 |
| 16:57 | DuperMan | h2o: welcome to the future, we have cyber-cookies |
| 16:58 | GNUtoo | h2o, with ACPI? like problem with DSDT in suspend etc... |
| 16:58 | h2o | a friend of mine has the Samsung galaxy s2 |
| 16:58 | h2o | and in my opinion |
| 16:58 | h2o | it's too damn big |
| 16:58 | h2o | it's more like a pocket pc |
| 16:58 | h2o | than a phone :) |
| 16:58 | h2o | it's clumsy to hold on your ear |
| 16:58 | Alex[sp3dev] | NetRipper: yeah, as for gaming, it is cool. I've got a couple of warez^W racing games there |
| 16:58 | DuperMan | ^my point about wm6.1. pocket pc ftw |
| 16:59 | h2o | like we're going back in time, when ppl had those enormous satelite phones |
| 16:59 | h2o | ;D |
| 16:59 | NetRipper | hehe |
| 16:59 | GNUtoo | what about galaxy tab as phone? |
| 16:59 | DuperMan | nokia n-gage! |
| 16:59 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: one of my friends uses his gtab as a phone.. the 7 inch one |
| 16:59 | GNUtoo | lol |
| 16:59 | GNUtoo | Alex[sp3dev], paulk in #replicant is working on adapting the samsung-ril and libsamsung-ipc to the galxy tab |
| 17:00 | h2o | nokia 1600 :D and a nice laptop... best combination if u ask me :))) |
| 17:00 | GNUtoo | the main problem is that graphics is slow..... |
| 17:00 | GNUtoo | *are |
| 17:00 | h2o | ok i'm out of here :) thanks again 4 your help everyone |
| 17:00 | h2o | byebye |
| 17:01 | Alex[sp3dev] | GNUtoo: yes, i've seen the repository when i was sitting at the university pc today. will check it out later. i guess all exynos are the same (and pv210 is exynos3xxx, it seems) |
| 17:01 | GNUtoo | ok |
| 17:01 | Cotulla | lol |
| 17:18 | zeusk | no samsung crap seconded |
| 17:20 | zeusk | late to the party :/ |
| 17:20 | Alex[sp3dev] | when Cotulla feels lonely he joins irc under the 'zeusk' nickname |
| 17:21 | zeusk | >_> |
| 17:21 | Cotulla | lol |
| 17:21 | Cotulla | :D |
| 17:21 | Cotulla | no |
| 17:21 | Cotulla | it's not me |
| 17:21 | zeusk | see the ip, not russia |
| 21:12 | emwe | ~ramconsole |