| 00:38 | parabyte | I really hate android |
| 00:38 | parabyte | its annoying me so badly |
| 00:38 | parabyte | if i keep the kernel what os can i get away with for my htc wildfire/buzz |
| 00:48 | arrrghhh | parabyte, we somehow run ubuntu poorly on the same kernel. |
| 00:49 | arrrghhh | not sure if that would apply the same to the wildfire tho |
| 00:49 | arrrghhh | (most folks in here are porting Android to WinMo devices for the record) |
| 00:49 | parabyte | ahhhh |
| 00:49 | parabyte | yeah im more into getting openmoko on my android device |
| 00:49 | parabyte | something like that |
| 00:49 | arrrghhh | ah |
| 00:49 | arrrghhh | yea, some have spoke of shr |
| 00:49 | arrrghhh | nothing really tangible tho |
| 00:50 | parabyte | im just going to compile openmoko and drop it into android partition on the devices nand and take it from there really |
| 00:50 | parabyte | kernel provides standard api's and such so i dont see why it wont work |
| 00:50 | arrrghhh | if it was only that easy |
| 00:50 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 00:50 | arrrghhh | good luck! |
| 00:50 | parabyte | I installed debian onto one of those chinese netbooks using flash tools |
| 00:51 | parabyte | armel port of debian |
| 00:51 | parabyte | wondermedia 8650 device |
| 00:51 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 00:51 | parabyte | yeah im a big Doom head |
| 00:51 | parabyte | and wanted prboom on there |
| 00:52 | parabyte | so whats the full name of these win based devices? |
| 00:52 | parabyte | my Brother has this htc with a thumb print reader i always wanted to get my hands on |
| 00:52 | parabyte | thats running win ce 5 i think |
| 00:54 | rpierce99 | the htc shift has a fingerprint reader, but that runs vista and has a 7" display |
| 00:54 | parabyte | my god why would they put vista on it |
| 00:54 | arrrghhh | lol |
| 00:54 | rpierce99 | it's technically a UMPC |
| 00:54 | parabyte | i take it there is no chance of getting that thumb reader working under any kernel? |
| 00:55 | parabyte | linux kernel |
| 00:55 | rpierce99 | looks like the only thing xda has ported to it is windows 7 and windows 8 |
| 00:56 | parabyte | bummer |
| 00:57 | parabyte | whats the coolest htc hardware at the moment? |
| 00:57 | arrrghhh | coolest? |
| 00:57 | parabyte | lol yeah |
| 00:57 | arrrghhh | gotta be the tp2. |
| 00:57 | Willd | arrrghhh: lol. |
| 00:57 | Willd | :D |
| 00:57 | arrrghhh | Willd, you saw that comin didn't you |
| 00:57 | Willd | Did indeed. |
| 00:57 | arrrghhh | too easy... |
| 00:57 | parabyte | yup indeed |
| 00:57 | arrrghhh | hd2 still seems like nice hardware |
| 00:57 | rpierce99 | looks like they do have a wm6.5 port for the shift |
| 00:58 | arrrghhh | although the fever has significantly calmed |
| 00:58 | parabyte | im going to google these toys |
| 00:58 | parabyte | brb :) |
| 00:58 | rpierce99 | dev fever tends to do that when you have your choice of 3 oses to run on it |
| 00:58 | arrrghhh | indeed |
| 00:58 | arrrghhh | that thing is still a good buy IMHO |
| 00:58 | arrrghhh | assuming you can deal with the lack of a kb. |
| 00:59 | arrrghhh | i saw someone at work with an hd2 |
| 00:59 | arrrghhh | i saw they were running winmo so i walked away. |
| 00:59 | rpierce99 | my company is replacing my tp2 with a epic 4g touch |
| 00:59 | Willd | arrrghhh: Aww |
| 00:59 | arrrghhh | rpierce99, orly |
| 00:59 | arrrghhh | so you're leaving us eh? |
| 00:59 | arrrghhh | thanks for getlogs :P |
| 00:59 | rpierce99 | if they take my tp2 away |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | i would imagine they will. |
| 01:00 | Willd | rpierce99: bite! |
| 01:00 | rpierce99 | otherwise i'll finally be able to throw caution to the wind |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | hah |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | just say you lost it |
| 01:00 | rpierce99 | they didn't take the last one |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | or uh yea... it's in the mail |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | hah, nice |
| 01:00 | rpierce99 | but you can't reuse the phones on another sprint account, they are locked to the companies account |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | so every 2 years you get a new phone? you'll have quite a pile in time. |
| 01:00 | arrrghhh | meh. just throw a sim in it. |
| 01:01 | arrrghhh | silly cdma. |
| 01:01 | rpierce99 | actually our upgrade period is somehow 1 year, and the e4gt is free |
| 01:01 | arrrghhh | nice |
| 01:01 | arrrghhh | mine's 1 year |
| 01:01 | arrrghhh | on sprint |
| 01:01 | arrrghhh | but i just dgaf |
| 01:02 | arrrghhh | tempted to buy a vz phone, but it'd have to be a bb or iphone... poo |
| 01:02 | arrrghhh | hum. i just realized how i almost always join in the really OT crap in here :D |
| 01:02 | Willd | arrrghhh: Damn you! |
| 01:02 | arrrghhh | i think i start most of it too. damn you Willd |
| 01:02 | Willd | :) |
| 01:02 | arrrghhh | -chat |
| 01:03 | rpierce99 | i don't even idle -chat |
| 01:03 | arrrghhh | yea, it's kinda pointless lately. |
| 01:03 | rpierce99 | i never have, tbh |
| 01:03 | arrrghhh | t'was fun with fakker et al were always around. |
| 01:03 | arrrghhh | s/with/when/ |
| 01:03 | apt | arrrghhh meant: t'was fun when fakker et al were always around. |
| 01:14 | jonpry | take tp2 away? out of my cold dead hands |
| 01:17 | Cotulla | http://cotulla.pp.ru/z25/forgau.png solve. can u? :D |
| 01:20 | NYL | i did something like this |
| 01:20 | NYL | at university |
| 01:20 | NYL | o hai |
| 01:21 | jonpry | isn't it just chain rule and product rule? |
| 01:23 | Cotulla | just answer |
| 01:23 | Cotulla | :D |
| 01:24 | NYL | Cotulla gonna be Linear Algebra and Analitic Geometry |
| 01:24 | NYL | teacher |
| 01:24 | NYL | :-" |
| 01:25 | jonpry | 1/3(x^2-1)^3/2 |
| 01:25 | NYL | can't seem to find latest ICS kernel source on git hub |
| 01:30 | Cotulla | u fail |
| 01:30 | Cotulla | :D |
| 01:34 | d3tul3 | my wife says some kind of an arctan |
| 01:34 | arrrghhh | literally? |
| 01:35 | d3tul3 | arctan((x^2-1)^(1/2)) + c |
| 01:35 | d3tul3 | she's the smart one |
| 01:38 | Cotulla | hm no? |
| 01:38 | Cotulla | but mor enear |
| 01:38 | Cotulla | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/math/0/7/f/07f70743bb78de4859449d97fb78ecc0.png |
| 01:38 | Cotulla | :P |
| 01:38 | arrrghhh | that was my next answer. |
| 01:39 | Cotulla | was ^^ |
| 01:40 | rpierce99 | arrrghhh is a big fat liar |
| 01:40 | d3tul3 | ru/math that must be some kind of an oxymoron |
| 01:41 | d3tul3 | i can't believe any answers coming out of there :) |
| 01:41 | rpierce99 | well the problem came from .ru, so surely their problems are as bad as their answers |
| 01:43 | Cotulla | lol |
| 01:43 | Cotulla | the problem? |
| 01:43 | Cotulla | it was not the problem |
| 01:43 | Cotulla | I just looking how many people can answer |
| 01:43 | Cotulla | already 9 fails, 2 gave answer :P |
| 01:44 | rpierce99 | in our schools, they are called math problems |
| 01:44 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 01:44 | Cotulla | but it' |
| 01:44 | Cotulla | s |
| 01:44 | Cotulla | crap not math problem |
| 01:44 | Cotulla | :P |
| 01:44 | rpierce99 | so we're all in agreement then :) |
| 01:45 | jonpry | my calculus is getting rusty :( |
| 01:46 | Cotulla | oh yeah |
| 01:46 | d3tul3 | Cotulla, your job to figure out why the answer my wife gave you is the same as the answer on that website |
| 01:46 | jonpry | d3tul3 you see those patches? |
| 01:46 | rpierce99 | so after all this time I just found out I actually do have a mini-usb headset adapter from my old 6800 |
| 01:47 | Cotulla | yeah |
| 01:47 | Cotulla | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ru/math/4/6/b/46b2a1094f56c89259b0dfcc2061fa5f.png |
| 01:47 | Cotulla | if we put it there |
| 01:47 | Cotulla | we got same |
| 01:47 | Cotulla | but arcsec() more clear |
| 01:47 | d3tul3 | bullshit |
| 01:47 | Cotulla | :P |
| 01:48 | Cotulla | nmo |
| 01:48 | Cotulla | there u need only divide |
| 01:48 | d3tul3 | jonpry, that looks great |
| 01:48 | Cotulla | white with arctan u need use sqrt() and ^2 |
| 01:48 | Cotulla | *while |
| 01:50 | d3tul3 | how does h2w audio routing works, it doesn't go through acoustic |
| 01:50 | Cotulla | via universal interface |
| 01:51 | NYL | android mega fan boys what kernel version does ICS use |
| 01:51 | jonpry | nobody here like android |
| 01:51 | rpierce99 | just math and htc phones |
| 01:53 | NYL | hahahahha |
| 01:55 | rpierce99 | i think the honest answer to your question though is ICS can run on many kernel versions, most manufacturers just draw a line in the sand when it's convenient and don't update the kernel past that version |
| 02:00 | arrrghhh | yea, that's typical. but there's usually a "general" kernel. like gb was .35 if i'm not mistaken. |
| 02:02 | rpierce99 | that's probably more a function of what kernel was considered stable at the time the source dropped for a specific os version though |
| 02:03 | arrrghhh | meh, i can't even find the table i am remembering in mah brain |
| 02:03 | d3tul3 | what's the "ring hack" |
| 02:03 | jonpry | there's no kernel changes required since froyo |
| 02:04 | arrrghhh | On 6 December 2010, the Android 2.3 (Gingerbread) SDK was released, based on Linux kernel 2.6.35 |
| 02:04 | arrrghhh | it's what the SDK is based on. |
| 02:05 | rpierce99 | source other than wikipedia? lol |
| 02:05 | arrrghhh | they link 2 sources |
| 02:05 | arrrghhh | dick. |
| 02:05 | arrrghhh | :P |
| 02:05 | arrrghhh | http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.3-highlights.html |
| 02:05 | arrrghhh | look for "Linux Kernel" |
| 02:06 | rpierce99 | d3tul3: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=2163998#post2163982 |
| 02:06 | rpierce99 | [acl] describes his "ring hack" in that post |
| 02:06 | jonpry | what is the point of this question anyways. someone thinks they will get x kernel to run by doing no work, and then ICS will all of a sudden go? |
| 02:06 | arrrghhh | jonpry, yea i don't know. |
| 02:07 | arrrghhh | ironically the ICS pages don't list anything about a kernel. |
| 02:07 | arrrghhh | but as everyone has stated, it's kernel agnostic. |
| 02:08 | d3tul3 | i think he'll end up sooner or later at the same patch i've got….i should've left him figure it out in the first place |
| 02:09 | jonpry | what is ring hack? |
| 02:09 | d3tul3 | some kind of a hack acl is trying to get the ringer to work correctly with acoustic |
| 02:09 | jonpry | what about broke ass ril hack? |
| 02:10 | d3tul3 | hey emwe was kind of describing what you are seeing |
| 02:10 | jonpry | i still can't characterize it fully. but it seems like i only get one phone call |
| 02:10 | jonpry | and then android thinks it never ends |
| 02:10 | d3tul3 | except he can see the call coming in the RADIO log |
| 02:10 | jonpry | i get that once |
| 02:10 | jonpry | have to reboot for another call |
| 02:11 | d3tul3 | you don't see the subsequent ones it in the radio logs |
| 02:11 | jonpry | no |
| 02:11 | jonpry | i'm not convinced the first one ever ends |
| 02:11 | d3tul3 | damn if it's not in the radio log... |
| 02:11 | jonpry | little phone icon stays on in the upper left |
| 02:12 | jonpry | says ongoing call duration 0:00 |
| 02:12 | d3tul3 | and nothing errors out anywhere in the radio log? |
| 03:55 | d3tul3 | oh yeah 3.5mm |
| 03:55 | d3tul3 | usb might have to wait for another day |
| 04:02 | d3tul3 | hey rpierce99 |
| 04:03 | rpierce99 | yo |
| 04:03 | d3tul3 | you were explaining something earlier in #xdandroid that i didn't quite understand these usb headset |
| 04:03 | d3tul3 | s |
| 04:04 | d3tul3 | is it just a usb headset that plugs straight into the mini usb or is there a dongle that's intermedaite |
| 04:05 | rpierce99 | i believe there is both |
| 04:06 | rpierce99 | sounds like rneese has the headset with a mini usb connection |
| 04:06 | rpierce99 | i have a dongle |
| 04:06 | d3tul3 | he has something that also has a 3.5mm on it so i assume it's a dongle |
| 04:06 | rpierce99 | i'm not sure they show up differently to the kernel though |
| 04:07 | rpierce99 | hm, i dunno then, maybe the dongle is the only |
| 04:07 | rpierce99 | he made it sound like it was just a usb headset |
| 04:14 | d3tul3 | i think you may need something special to connect to the audio pins in there though i am just talking out of my bEhind |
| 04:14 | arrrghhh | there is both |
| 04:15 | arrrghhh | there's headsets that plug straight into the mini-usb, and there's a dongle that puts out a bunch of ports. |
| 04:15 | arrrghhh | 2.5, 3.5 and another mini-usb. |
| 04:15 | d3tul3 | arrrghhh, but not any mini-usb headset will work with this extusb port? |
| 04:16 | d3tul3 | or is it pretty generic |
| 04:16 | arrrghhh | i... think it's generic |
| 04:16 | arrrghhh | but i honestly don't knwo. |
| 04:17 | arrrghhh | know* |
| 05:48 | [acl] | detule: hey dood |
| 05:48 | [acl] | u got a minute ? |
| 05:53 | [acl] | giving me the silent treatment huh |
| 05:53 | [acl] | two can play this game |
| 05:53 | [acl] | :-p |
| 10:06 | Kookstar | deconnect |
| 12:13 | NYL | http://9gag.com/gag/808735 |