#htc-linux

<2010>  <January>  Show msg only  Back to index      
1234567891011121314151617
1819202122232425262728293031

00:00 phh cr2_: "reboot reason" might be 0xfc044
00:00 cr2_ hm
00:01 phh low speed dex is 0x1d
00:02 phh the only setting I know that goes from 0 to 7 is the VDD of A11
00:02 phh don't know if it's related to the slow call
00:02 cr2_ =2
00:02 phh always 2 ?
00:02 cr2_ fow slow
00:02 cr2_ =7 for 528
00:03 cr2_ but it may adjust arm9 only. you need to check
00:03 Captnoord lol
00:03 phh 0..7 setting make me think it might be just A11 VDD setting
00:03 Captnoord if I want to implement that suspend stuff to the ts
00:03 Captnoord it needs some major overhoaling
00:03 Captnoord lolz
00:03 phh cr2_: wince calls it ARM9 slow down ?
00:03 phh Captnoord: overhoaling ?
00:03 cr2_ yes
00:04 phh ok
00:04 Captnoord overhauling*
00:04 Captnoord overhaulin'*
00:04 Captnoord http://dhd.discovery.com/tv/overhaulin/overhaulin.html
00:04 phh Captnoord: I'd suggest using tssc-manager
00:06=> Tinyboom_ joins
00:07 tmzt http://cia.vc/stats/project/linux-2.6/.message/176aaf0
00:09 Captnoord phh yea
00:09 Captnoord it seems to be the logic choice
00:10 phh Captnoord: maybe see if 2.6.32 testing has some newer code
00:10 phh ah. they have just a diffrent driver.
00:10 Captnoord I just re-downloaded the gitourius repo
00:10 Captnoord url?
00:11 phh git://codeaurora.org/quic/le/kernel/msm.git
00:11 phh branch eclair
00:11 Captnoord k
00:11 phh there is msm_ts.c and msm_touch.c -_-'
00:12 phh tssc_manager is cleaner.
00:12 phh and has calibration.
00:13 makkonen is the main branch going to switch over to it?
00:13 makkonen (I don't know how well msm_ts works on the gsm devices.)
00:13 Captnoord msm_ts is just like our current one
00:13 Captnoord just cleaner
00:14 makkonen oh. I thought msm_ts was the current one.
00:14 Captnoord I like the one on the nexus branch
00:14 phh makkonen: it's yet another one :p
00:14 Captnoord nah
00:14 Captnoord yup
00:14 phh we have 3 or 4 different msm touchscreen drivers -_-'
00:14 Captnoord its very funny how many people write multiple diff drivers
00:14 makkonen whatever the current one on the main branch is, it works terribly on the raph800. jumpy and weird.
00:14 Captnoord for exactly the same device
00:14 phh Captnoord: I wonder if there is a different driver for vogue too :p
00:14 makkonen hence tssc-manager. which seems much nicer.
00:14<= c2d left/quit
00:15 phh makkonen: we will switch to tssc_manager if it works and blackstone's pad is coded
00:15 makkonen though still imperfect.
00:16 Captnoord perfection can only be reached by imperfections
00:16 makkonen good. so the calibration can get rolled into the rootfs on the main distribution. I hate rolling my own rootfs.
00:16 phh makkonen: just get black's pad working :p
00:16 Captnoord I need to sleep
00:16 Captnoord tired
00:16 makkonen oh. think it won't work for that?
00:16 Captnoord talk to ya all later
00:16 tmzt http://feeds.tuaw.com/click.phdo?i=a63c399b208c17cec7b356facb15182c
00:16 tmzt it has bluetooth?
00:16 phh makkonen: black's buttons uses touchscreen
00:17 phh so you'll have to rewrite that part
00:17 makkonen ah. ugh.
00:17 phh shouldn't be too hard though
00:17 phh tmzt: they say they use a dongle
00:18 tmzt oh
00:19 phh no fun uh ?:p
00:19<= Tinyboom left/quit
00:22 MrPippy hmm vogue and kaiser don't use the msm touchscreen, they have an i2c one
00:23<= GNUtoo left/quit
00:23 phh MrPippy: yeah, not funny :(
00:23 makkonen phh: ok. back to 2048x2048 on the calibration, still works fine. (except the targets are no longer square :-p ). Everything seems good. (have to have the same width, height, and all calibration points in the kernel as in the calibration app). Just have to figure out now when the interfaces are enumerated, so I can see if I can add it to the... init script?
00:24 phh which are interfaces ?
00:24 phh you mean TS device ?
00:24 makkonen /sys/class/input/input3/calibration_points
00:24 phh what do you mean with enumerated ? (ok just explain the whole sentence :p)
00:24 makkonen haha, sorry.
00:25 makkonen I mean, when do those bits show up so I can read from and write to them from the command line.
00:25 makkonen are they there while the init script is running off of rootfs, or do they not appear until something in android creates them?
00:25 phh should be there when calling the /init script
00:26 makkonen good. then it should be easy.
00:26 phh maybe not the /dev/graphics/fb0 device though, you might have to create it by hand
00:26 makkonen except for possibly having to add a mknod for the fb
00:26 makkonen right.
00:27 phh can you read the calibration parameters from the kernel now ?
00:27 makkonen which parameters?
00:27 makkonen after a successful calibration, calibration_points shows the good values.
00:28 phh ok
00:28 phh so you can write it back after restart ?
00:28 makkonen so I'll just 'cat /sys/class/input/input3/calibration_points > /sdcard/ts-calibration'
00:28 phh fine :)
00:28 makkonen then check for that on boot, and if it exists, dump it back in.
00:28 makkonen otherwise run the calibration app. easy peasy.
00:28 phh yup
00:29 phh we might conflict with the console though
00:29 phh (not a big deal to fix, it's just an ioctl to add)
00:29 makkonen ok
00:33 emwe gnight everyone. giving mtd phram another shot the next days. not worked out yet. no sign of life. not even debug output.. whonder if it is really "in" ... anyways. gnight.
00:36=> mufumbo joins
00:40<= Captnoord left/quit
00:46<= mickey|sofa left/quit
00:47<= BabelO left/quit
00:52 stinebd MrPippy: i got msm7k governor going with nohz
00:53 stinebd it's at the bootanim now, we'll see how it performs
00:53 stinebd $ ~/adb shell cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor == msm7k
00:53 stinebd :)
00:53 MrPippy cool
00:53<= emwe left/quit
00:53 MrPippy i'm trying out the performance governor, just want to see what its like
00:54 stinebd oh noes, i left cpufreq debug on
00:54 stinebd lots of output
00:57 stinebd looks good
00:57 stinebd we get the conservative tunables too so at least you can tweak to compensate for eclair slowness
00:59=> jumoit joins
01:00<= pH5 left/quit
01:01<= Squarc left/quit
01:01 stinebd phh: if you're interested: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Import-msm7k-cpufreq-governor-from-heroc-kernel.patch
01:03 makkonen hmm. tssc calibrate is a 570K app? is that from compiling it -static?
01:04 makkonen that's not going to fit on the rootfs
01:04 makkonen the rootfs image*
01:04=> kvaster_ joins
01:05 cr2_ hm. libjpeg8
01:05<= kvaster left/quit
01:06 stinebd makkonen: btw i haven't actually gotten dropbear to work yet. it's a matter of compiling it with android's libc. i forgot that even building static binary, there are passwd functions involved
01:06 stinebd which will pull symbols from libc
01:07 MrPippy makkonen: have you tried compiling it against android's libc? should be smaller
01:09 MrPippy hmmm...i've disabled smd_7500 and am just using wifi, and it seems much more stable
01:12 MrPippy yeah, wow. this is stable. i always had a bad feeling about smd_7500 ;-(
01:13 stinebd MrPippy: what is this turbo mode stuff in the heroc kernel? it reminds me of those old compaq pentium computers with the turbo button
01:13 cr2_ lol
01:14 Boydell_ stinebd: I remember those! Holy crap. Did those just overclock the CPU? Or make the fan go faster?
01:14 MrPippy it was to underclock the cpu for old apps that couldn't handle a >8 MHz cpu
01:15 stinebd right, i should've said the unturbo button
01:16 MrPippy heh nah you got it right, every case did say "TURBO" on it
01:16 Boydell_ Ha. I only remember seeing it, never owned one.
01:17 stinebd i used to use one as a router back in the day
01:17 stinebd home router of course
01:17 Boydell_ Wow, neat idea..
01:18 MrPippy yeah i haven't figured out what the heroc turbo mode is, the a11 is at 528 mhz either way, but it increases some other frequencies
01:20 MrPippy the axi clk i think
01:22 bzo here is some info on a winmo overclocking attempt: http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/09/08/Yet-more-notes-on-overclocking.aspx
01:23 dcordes good night
01:23<= dcordes left/quit
01:30=> Forsaken|Desk1 joins
01:39=> yozgatg joins
01:40<= yozgatg left/quit
01:42 NetRipper cr2_, ping, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623801
01:42 NetRipper cr2_, enabled 576mb ram by modifying radio?
01:43 MrPippy emwe: kaiser on 2.6.25 (!!) uses 2 discontiguous banks (even though it only has 1 physical bank of ram) to avoid modem ram
01:48<= Forsaken|Desk left/quit
01:49 MrPippy NetRipper: does the a9/radio tell ce how much ram it can use?
01:50 NetRipper MrPippy, i don't know
01:50 NetRipper it might just be a reghack to some smem information
01:50 NetRipper err
01:50 NetRipper just a string patch i mean
01:51 NetRipper i don't know where that htc tool gets its information from, if it's from a hardcoded string in the radio rom, it can be faked
01:51 NetRipper :)
01:57 cr2_ NetRipper: i need an amss dump to make any conclusions
01:57 NetRipper http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787 pick any of em ;)
01:59 cr2_ NetRipper: what is1ghz hack ?
01:59 cr2_ if you have it, dump the nk.exe
01:59 cr2_ we will then disassemble it
02:00=> tehtrk_home joins
02:01 cr2_ ok, i'll look at it
02:01 cr2_ good night
02:01<= cr2_ left/quit
02:02<= marex left/quit
02:05=> Zeman4323 joins
02:05<= leobaillard left/quit
02:11<= lalaleche left/quit
02:14 babijoee stinebd: ping
02:14 stinebd babijoee: pong
02:18 Boydell_ Boydell_: ping
02:18 stinebd heh
02:18 Boydell_ haha
02:18 Boydell_ I was curious
02:18<= StarLite left/quit
02:18 babijoee stinebd: overall smoothness android better?
02:19 stinebd babijoee: slightly
02:19 Boydell_ /msg NickServ help
02:19 stinebd babijoee: the biggest difference is when you haven't been doing anything cpu intensive. with up_threshold lowered to 40 it kicks the cpu into a higher frequency a bit faster
02:20 stinebd (a common use-case for the app drawer)
02:20 stinebd ideally, you'd like the app drawer sliding up to kick it into full speed so that scrolling is nice
02:21 stinebd that is, of course, working around the issue of eclair being slower for some reason
02:21=> StarLite joins
02:21<= Boydell_ left/quit
02:21=> Boydell joins
02:23 babijoee true
02:23 stinebd another place where i seemed to notice it was in browser
02:25 babijoee so the downfall is less battery life
02:25 babijoee you think its worth it?
02:25 stinebd maybe less battery life (marginally)
02:25 stinebd absolutely worth it imo
02:25 babijoee awesome
02:26 babijoee what needs to be changed
02:26 stinebd will have to decide on that later
02:26 stinebd immediately, you could just echo 40 >/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold
02:26 stinebd in init
02:27 stinebd assuming i got the whole path right
02:27 babijoee ah k
02:27 babijoee ;p giving it a shot to see
02:27 stinebd on the kernel side, MrPippy noted the msm7k cpufreq governor in heroc's kernel. i imported it into my local 2.6.27 branch and am using it now
02:28 stinebd he said something about it needing nohz though so it may not be an option right now
02:32 babijoee ah k
02:32 babijoee so putting that line into init wont work?
02:33 stinebd it would
02:33 babijoee kk
02:33<= leaigor left/quit
02:33 babijoee if its significant change then i'll leave it in there so its some eye candy for new users :p
02:34 stinebd you can do that on a running system to test
02:34 stinebd via adb shell
02:34 babijoee ok
02:40 stinebd i should check the thread to see if anybody has reported the wifi off freeze again lately
02:41 stinebd law of averages, it should pop up every 5 posts ;)
03:01=> x29a_ joins
03:02<= MethoS- left/quit
03:03 babijoee lol
03:03 babijoee maybe i should make a working but unstable section
03:03 babijoee so people stop complaining about it
03:03 babijoee :P
03:05 stinebd wont stop them
03:06=> jeremychang_ joins
03:07 babijoee haha
03:09<= x29a left/quit
03:10 babijoee stinebd: what command do i need to check to see its running?
03:11 stinebd cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/ondemand/up_threshold
03:11 stinebd if it says 40 you did it right
03:11 babijoee yep its on 40
03:12 babijoee but i can't tell if its smoother :p
03:12 stinebd has the phone settled down yet?
03:12 babijoee yeah
03:12 MrPippy hmm i think smd_7500 needs to have more variables marked as volatile
03:13 babijoee technically this should make donut really smooth?
03:14 stinebd probably not
03:14 babijoee ah k
03:14 stinebd some things might be slightly faster, but i doubt it'd be noticeable since it was pretty smooth as it was
03:14<= Zeman4323 left/quit
03:17 babijoee i'm going to make an ultra lite donut rom
03:17 babijoee and adding all new stuff from eclai
03:17 babijoee eclair* lets see how it runs
03:19 stinebd but eclairs taste better than donuts
03:21 babijoee haha i just wanna see
03:21 babijoee donut is much more stable i think
03:21 babijoee :)
03:23<= bzo left/quit
03:28<= Markinus left/quit
03:28=> ALoGeNo joins
03:32 babijoee lets see how donut performs :)
03:36 babijoee woah calibration is totally fked
03:37 babijoee but god damn the hand pointing to the android is sooooooooo smooth
03:37 Boydell updated conf with old drivers?
03:37 babijoee haha i was just playing around
03:38 stinebd did you build eclair or donut yourself at all?
03:38 babijoee nope
03:38 babijoee well eclair i did
03:38<= rafyvitto left/quit
03:38 babijoee but i abandoned it
03:44=> BHSPitMonkey joins
03:46 Boydell ahah yah i know, but mixing and matching, I just figured maybe thats what happened ahha
03:48 babijoee yeah
03:48 babijoee well donut is really smooth thats all i can say
03:49 babijoee sticking with eclair until froyo comes out
03:49 Boydell yah it was smoother than ecliar. but is it more stable too?
03:49 Boydell btw is there an eta on froyo?
03:49 babijoee no clue =/
03:49 babijoee no features listed as well
03:49 makkonen is that... is that a thing?
03:50 babijoee i think donut was more stable as more things were working
03:50 Boydell froyo?
03:50 stinebd frozen yogurt
03:50 makkonen I know that frozen yogurt is a thing. is that an actual android codename?
03:50 stinebd yes
03:50 makkonen kooky
03:50 stinebd 2.1
03:50 Boydell so I've heard
03:50 makkonen I thought 2.1 was flan.
03:51 stinebd flan was never an official name
03:51 babijoee 2.1 is eclair
03:51 Boydell ecliar is 2.0.1 i thought?
03:51 makkonen I thought 2.0 was eclair. and 2.0.1
03:51 babijoee they both are eclair
03:51 babijoee 2.0, 2.0.1 and 2.1 are i believe
03:51 Boydell so confused now ahha
03:51 babijoee yeah
03:52 stinebd http://www.softsailor.com/news/15871-according-to-erick-tseng-the-next-android-2-1-version-will-be-named-froyo-as-a-delicious-“frozen-yogurtâ€.html
03:52 Boydell I think I'll just wait see what comes out
03:52 babijoee just forget flan ever existed :p
03:52 Boydell I dont really care
03:52 babijoee sure :p
03:52 makkonen I'll grant that this is not meaningfully conversation.
03:52 makkonen meaningful*
03:52 Boydell Well then, make it meaningful :) lol
03:54 MrPippy makkonen: when i run on wifi, i can't get android to crash
03:54 babijoee makkonen: i think we are fully aware :)
03:54 Boydell MrPippy: well isnt that a good thing :)
03:54 MrPippy so either the arm9, smd_7500, ppp, or the tty layer are corrupting memory and causing crashes ;-)
03:55 makkonen that's awesome.... and daunting.
03:55 Boydell hm. I know ive had arm9 crash on me before...
03:56 MrPippy i made some things in smd_7500 volatile, we'll see if that fixes anything
03:56 MrPippy first i have to turn off wifi without crashing the phone
03:56 makkonen good luck
03:56 Boydell Turning off wifi doesnt crash mine? :S
03:56 makkonen It crashes mine sometimes but not always.
03:57 makkonen if I turn it off right after I boot it rarely crashes.
03:57 Boydell hm. I wonder if it crashes when you try to turn it off while its trying to grab data?
03:58 Boydell aka, transfering the data from wifi to modem?
04:00<= xfight81 left/quit
04:08 Boydell Ok, turning ON wifi crashed my phone, rebooted back to winmo
04:12=> ghostdogg joins
04:12 makkonen anyone know an way to compare a file to a string in a shell script?
04:12 makkonen just need to know if it matches or not
04:12 Boydell the name of a file? so a hard coded string you set?
04:12 Boydell aka your seeing if a file exists or not?
04:13 makkonen I'm seeing if the ts-calibration file (which exists) matches the string "0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0\n" (which means it's null, and should be re-calibrated)
04:14 makkonen there's probably an easier way around all this.
04:14 Boydell yah I dont have a clue, not very good with scripts..
04:17=> ghost-dogg joins
04:18 makkonen echo 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 | cmp -s ts-calibration
04:18 makkonen positively elegant.
04:22 Boydell is this to finally get the calibration right with the new screen driver?
04:28 makkonen yeah
04:28 Boydell also, it seems, i was trying to dl from market, and turn off wifi, thats when it crashed..
04:29 Boydell its almost like if your trying to pull data from 3G then transfer to wifi or vice vera, it crashes..
04:30 MrPippy the panic shows its just a wifi/sd problem
04:30 makkonen ...cept I can't seem to get it to run the calibration app from the rootfs, because the framebuffer isn't initialized. other than that, it works a treat.
04:33 babijoee MrPippy: also shutdowns doesn't seem to work for me anymore
04:34 babijoee not sure if its relevant, but just letting you guys know
04:34 makkonen just happened to try it 10 minutes ago and it seems to work for me. (I was surprised.)
04:34 babijoee makkonen: device?
04:35 makkonen raph800
04:35 Boydell shutdowns usuallly work for me too
04:35 MrPippy i haven't changed anything in 2 weeks, and the only device where anything different should have happened is cdma diamond
04:36 makkonen something changed recently that caused it to start working again. it was definitely not working on the 17th.
04:36 babijoee its weird :D
04:36 babijoee ah well
04:36 babijoee it was good while it lasted XD
04:36 makkonen heh
04:37 Boydell makkonen: I put in a commit that made it start working again.
04:37 makkonen I just hit the reset button anyway.
04:37 makkonen ah, ok.
04:37 Boydell it was the one that made sound die, but, i read some patch notes that said sound may work again, tried it, it worked lol
04:38 babijoee Boydell: for shutdown or wifi
04:38 babijoee ?
04:38 Boydell shutdown
04:39 Boydell if (!machine_is_htcdiamond_cdma() && !machine_is_htcraphael_cdma() && ! machine_is_htcraphael_cdma500()) {
04:39 Boydell /* power-off doesn't work on CDMA diamond with this enabled */
04:39 Boydell msg.cmd = RPCROUTER_CTRL_CMD_BYE;
04:39 Boydell rpcrouter_send_control_msg(&msg);
04:40 Boydell twas that one
04:44 MrPippy yeah i never had problems with sound and it made poweroff work, but it kills sound for other people
04:45 MrPippy i'm running a weird radio version (telus 1.04.05), maybe thats why
04:57 MrPippy makkonen: all cdma people: see if the latest commit helps out stability, in my brief testing it was a lot more stable
04:57 makkonen will do.
04:57 Boydell MrPippy: I have a telus radio too...hmm..
05:07<= kam187 left/quit
05:08 Boydell MrPippy: more stable where?
05:09 makkonen It didn't crash during my game of abduction. That's a good sign.
05:11=> Unholy joins
05:16 Boydell do you get a keyboard has stopped working on boot too?
05:18 Boydell MrPippy: is your phone originally a telus? or you just decided to use a telus radio version? whats the story?
05:19 makkonen living in san diego and being on sprint... it's not originally a telus.
05:19 makkonen feels stalkerish.
05:19 Boydell and so you should lmao
05:21<= ghost-dogg left/quit
05:21 Boydell oh noes
05:21 Boydell I lost data!
05:22 Boydell makkonen: does your 3G work?
05:26<= ghostdogg left/quit
05:27=> swc|666 joins
05:28=> ghostdogg joins
05:28=> ghost-dogg joins
05:28<= Unholy left/quit
05:30 makkonen eek. I don't know. let me check.
05:32=> lalaleche joins
05:34<= lalaleche left/quit
05:40 Boydell also makk, batt is still a little high, may i suggest 5/4?
05:41 makkonen 5/4 is what I used originally. it was quite low. 9/7 should be about right... at this point, the problems are elsewhere, I think.
05:42 Boydell ok, on mine its about 10% too high
05:42<= ALoGeNo left/quit
05:42 makkonen well, at 5/4 it would read 5% for a huge range (anything under 30 or 40% in winmo).
05:43 makkonen but that might come down to the table. whatever... it's all a kludge anyway, I shouldn't even bother with it.
05:43 Boydell actaully after a reboot, its a bit better?
05:43=> ALoGeNo joins
05:44 Boydell I think a new data.img fixed my data problem too
05:45 makkonen yeah. data seems to be working fine for me.
05:48<= ALoGeNo left/quit
05:49=> ALoGeNo joins
05:53** swc|666 is now known as swc|666
05:56** Patrick_Bateman is now known as Patrick_Bateman
05:57<= babijoee left/quit
05:58=> bzo joins
06:07=> droid001 joins
06:13<= tehtrk_home left/quit
06:13 MrPippy yeah i don't remember why i went for a telus radio
06:14 Boydell hm. well then lol.
06:14 Boydell I'm wondering if it has anything to do with the audio not working sometimes. but idk
06:14 MrPippy but it might be why my sound works with the shutdown fix, and doesn't work for others
06:15 Boydell how many others does it fail with? So far i think only one of us raph800 users it kills..
06:15<= ghost-dogg left/quit
06:15=> goxboxlive joins
06:17 MrPippy some people in my diam500 thread say sound and data don't work
06:17=> ghost-dogg joins
06:18 Boydell weird. Although some people are...umm..how to put this nicely?
06:18 Boydell not tech savey?
06:18 Boydell yet they bitch and somplain things arnt working?
06:18 Boydell ahha
06:22 makkonen that's putting it very nicely.
06:22 Boydell yah well, I would have liked to said more, but I think I'm just goin be polite today.
06:23 MrPippy yeah i believe when their sound isn't working, but i think they just need to wait longer for data to come up
06:23<= droid0011 left/quit
06:24 Boydell Yah. Or make a new data.img. Maybe look at the dmesg to see WHY shit isnt working also. I mean, don't just bitch, do something to help!
06:24 Boydell anyways, rant over. going to bed, night all.
06:25<= Boydell left/quit
06:26 bzo MrPippy: your fix looks promising. Was able to download 2 large marketplace apps in a row. Never been able to do that before
06:27 bzo bleck, already missing makkonen's new touchscreen driver though
06:27 makkonen ?
06:28 bzo MrPippy has the never driver in his build I was using until now
06:28 makkonen ah
06:29<= AstainHellbring left/quit
06:29 bzo it will be perfect once the calibration app is done :)
06:30 MrPippy yeah
06:31 makkonen calibration app is done.
06:31 MrPippy i sorta want to commit the files now (but not the board-htcdiam/raph to enable it)
06:31 makkonen done-ish.
06:31 makkonen (but nothing's at all done for blackstone)
06:31=> AstainHellbring joins
06:38 makkonen with a new rootfs, it autocalibrates at boot and saves it to the sdcard. ...but it requires having the calibrate app sitting in your sdcard. which is inelegant.
06:38 makkonen autocalibrate = runs the calibrate app if you don't already have calibration settings.
06:39 bzo ok, just downloaded my 6th 1mb+ app from marketplace. Huge improvement!
06:40 makkonen awesome.
06:40 MrPippy kickass
06:41 MrPippy can't believe this would just stem from some variables not being marked as volatile
06:41 bzo yeah, I must admit I wasn
06:41<= luc__ left/quit
06:41 makkonen I've seen some pretty dumb things just left to be dealt with later in the code.
06:42 MrPippy i finally realized it when i was looking through dzo's vogue-smd, where the entire structures are marked as volatile
06:43 MrPippy the buffers not marked wasn't a big problem for gsm because smd.c uses memcpy
06:43 MrPippy but the 7500 pointers not being marked was bad, those get accessed directly
06:45 bzo uh oh, just rebooted. Wasn't downloading anything at the time though
06:46 bzo it was slightly responsive before rebooting. The lights were still following the capacitive touch panel
06:47 tmzt oh? ppp on smd7500 is fixed?
06:49 MrPippy yeah i think so
06:49 MrPippy if the capacitive panel is still lighting up, the kernel is still alive and didn't panic
06:50 bzo hmm, can't access adb through the kernel I compiled. Do I have to configure anything to enable it?
06:51 makkonen were you talking about changing the usb settings so it came up as a dream for adb purposes?
06:51 MrPippy shouldn't have to
06:51 makkonen or was that someone else?
06:51 bzo adb devices shows connectivity, but has status of "offline"
06:51 MrPippy yeah i was thinking about that, so windows would be ok without having to hack the .inf
06:52 makkonen yeah. I was wondering if anyone had tried it. because even with the hacked inf, I couldn't get it to work on my system.
06:52 tmzt is the product number fixed now?
06:52 MrPippy and then putting a line into eclair.user.conf to change usb_function_switch to adb-only, instead of adb+usbnet
06:52 tmzt what device?
06:52 makkonen me: raph800. mrpippy and bzo: diam500, I believe.
06:53 bzo I've always found adb on windows painful
06:53 makkonen me too. but painful is better than dead.
06:54 makkonen if it'd just work, could maybe give droid explorer a shot... it looks very nice.
06:54 bzo I've given up on win adb, and run a linux vm
06:55 makkonen whenever I try to share the usb device with my vbox vm, vbox crashes hardcore. Have to reboot the host system before it'll fire up again.
06:55 bzo works well for me on vmware. At least until now with my self compiled kernel
06:56 MrPippy makkonen: you've never had adb working on windows?
06:57 makkonen not since... early december?
06:57 bzo what is the syntax of usb_function_switch? ifconfig is showing usb0 for me - want to try forcing adb only
06:57 makkonen not since they made all the changes to enable multiple usb functions running simultaneously. rndis, etc
06:58 MrPippy doing "echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch" will do adb-only
06:58 bzo I had trouble with that too on windows. I had to disable the mass storage driver, or else it kept switch back and forth between the 2 modes
06:59 MrPippy that and a product id change, should make it identical to the g1 and windows should work
06:59 tmzt can we just make the sysfs entry either the bitmap or product value
06:59 makkonen mass storage kills data for me.
06:59 MrPippy i've never tried mass storage in linux
07:00 tmzt data?
07:00 MrPippy i'm gonna commit the product id change now, i think only windows cares what it is
07:00 makkonen smd1, cdma modem
07:00 makkonen cool. I was about to start looking to figure out where it was stored, glad I don't have to. :-)
07:04 MrPippy i think the only reason usbnet is on by default is because phh uses it
07:06 makkonen has anyone ever used the rndis functionality?
07:07 MrPippy not sure if i ever have
07:07 bzo oh well, usb_function_switch doesn't fix it. thx MrPippy
07:07 tmzt bzo: what device?
07:07 bzo diam500
07:08 bzo it took me this whole time to type in that command. Really difficult with the old touchscreen driver :)
07:08 MrPippy you have to change the product id and usb_function_switch
07:08 makkonen heh. wifi shell. highly recommended.
07:09 bzo I'm connecting in linux, does the product id matter there?
07:09 MrPippy no
07:11 makkonen echo 2 > usb_function_switch isn't necessary if you just kill usb_function_ether in the config, right?
07:12 tmzt it's the combination
07:12 tmzt we need to clean this up
07:12 tmzt bzo: it shouldn't
07:12 MrPippy yeah i guess that should work
07:12 MrPippy i just pushed the product id change
07:16 MrPippy oo wow, engadget has a real-looking picture of the apple tablet
07:16 MrPippy and geohot released the details on his ps3 hack
07:16 tmzt metal edge?
07:17 tmzt yep, and code
07:17 makkonen stupid apple tablet. it makes me angry for a reason I cannot explain.
07:17 MrPippy i expect sony will lock down the hv pretty soon
07:20 bzo makkonen, lol
07:20 MrPippy heh you can get angry at it after its released
07:22 makkonen no, I think the part I'm angry about is already out there. it's the hype, the fawning, etc.
07:22 makkonen hey, nice... win7 automatically downloads and installs drivers now.
07:22 bzo wonder if sony will care now? They're not losing too much money anymore on each unit. Really, they've already succeeded in their security
07:23 MrPippy its the pirated games they're worried about
07:24 bzo right. Well in that case there's no shutting the door anymore with tens of millions of hackable units out there...
07:24 makkonen hot damn. Droid Explorer just plain works now. how pleasant.
07:24 MrPippy since the ps3 ran linux (until the slim), sony could have been losing a giant amount of money on each unit already
07:25 MrPippy and right now there isn't a software hack, so very few people are going to try this
07:26 bzo it is impressive in any case how long it took hack the PS3
07:27 MrPippy assuming the private encryption keys aren't dumped, sony can patch the HV and any software bugs that are found, and make the update mandatory for psn and new games/br
07:27 MrPippy yeah it is, especially since they've had the linux capability since the beginning
07:28 MrPippy that made this way easier for geohot, but also deterred people from trying (since sony was making a token gesture towards homebrew people)
07:28 bzo makkonen - so adb works painlessly in w7 now?
07:28 makkonen seems so.
07:29 makkonen maybe a little flaky... already dropped once. but that's more the device than adb specifically.
07:30 makkonen of course I don't know if that's changing the product ID or turning off usbnet
07:31 MrPippy pretty sure its both
07:31 makkonen I'll take it.
07:32 MrPippy yeah we should have babijoee put the usb_function_switch into /init
07:36 bzo the driver does seem to painlessly install in my x64 w7
07:37=> mickey|sofa joins
07:37 bzo still can't connect, there must be something messed up in my kernel config somehow
07:37** mickey|sofa is now known as mickey|sofa
07:37** mrmoku|away is now known as mrmoku|away
07:37 MrPippy thats good, x64 doesn't do unsigned drivers, and doesn't hacking the .inf invalidate the signature?
07:38 makkonen it complains, but I think it'll still install the unsigned drivers.
07:39 bzo w7 downloaded and installed the drivers automatically. Presumably they are signed?
07:39 makkonen yeah
07:40 makkonen but when I had to hack the inf, or when I used the drivers from androidhtc.sf.net, those both installed ok.
07:42 bzo I'm liking the ability to shut down the phone now
07:42 MrPippy is your sound working?
07:43 bzo yes, and data comes up instantly
07:44 MrPippy cool, do you happen to know what your radio version is? :-)
07:45 bzo standard sprint 1.11 I believe
07:45=> marex joins
07:48 MrPippy ok
07:49 MrPippy heh this thing with radio versions might not work out, (almost) everybody with diam500 has one version or the other
07:51** alphaone|gone is now known as alphaone|gone
07:54=> FR^2 joins
07:55 bzo gotta turn in, good night all
07:55<= surgex left/quit
07:55<= bzo left/quit
07:55=> surgex joins
07:56<= marex left/quit
08:03<= FR^2 left/quit
08:08=> babijoee joins
08:17=> marcydarcy joins
08:23 MrPippy ok time to try 2 banks
08:34** mrmoku is now known as mrmoku
08:46=> jenericc` joins
08:48<= teh_eb left/quit
08:48=> mickey|train joins
08:57<= mickey|ICE2068 left/quit
09:00 MrPippy ok pushed tssc_manager but not the defconfig or board- files, so its not enabled by default
09:02<= Hellie left/quit
09:03=> Hellie joins
09:08<= mickey|train left/quit
09:11=> leobaillard joins
09:14<= AstainHellbring left/quit
09:16=> BabelO joins
09:16<= BHSPitMonkey left/quit
09:17<= ALoGeNo left/quit
09:23<= polyrhythmic left/quit
09:28<= surgex left/quit
09:28=> surgex joins
09:33=> ALoGeNo joins
09:46** alphaone is now known as alphaone
09:49=> kiozen joins
09:53<= Hellie left/quit
09:53<= Ice left/quit
09:53<= darkstar62 left/quit
09:53<= jontow left/quit
09:53<= toer left/quit
09:54<= HardDisk_WP left/quit
09:54=> Hellie joins
09:54=> Ice joins
09:54=> darkstar62 joins
09:54=> jontow joins
09:54=> toer joins
09:54<= swc|666 left/quit
10:01=> HardDisk_WP joins
10:07** alphaone|gone is now known as alphaone|gone
10:21<= kvaster_ left/quit
10:30<= NexVision left/quit
10:32<= |Jason8| left/quit
10:34=> |Jason8| joins
10:35=> Markinus joins
10:37<= MrPippy left/quit
10:39 babijoee wifi seems stable for me :)
10:39 babijoee thanks MrPippy :)
10:40 babijoee opps spoke too soon
10:40 babijoee it finally crashed
10:40 babijoee :p
10:44=> zachy joins
10:51=> lucx joins
10:52=> kvaster_ joins
11:11** x29a_ is now known as x29a_
11:13=> zachy1 joins
11:17<= zachy left/quit
11:21=> mickey|fsoMeetin joins
11:40** mrmoku|away is now known as mrmoku|away
12:19** mrmoku is now known as mrmoku
12:23<= marcydarcy left/quit
12:29<= zachy1 left/quit
12:30=> marex joins
12:31<= ghost-dogg left/quit
12:35<= ghostdogg left/quit
12:42=> malgon joins
12:43<= Markinus left/quit
12:58=> dcordes joins
13:00=> psz joins
13:00<= psz left/quit
13:07<= jumoit left/quit
13:08=> GeekLad joins
13:12<= dcordes left/quit
13:12<= mickey|fsoMeetin left/quit
13:12<= Ice left/quit
13:12<= darkstar62 left/quit
13:12<= jontow left/quit
13:12<= toer left/quit
13:12<= Hellie left/quit
13:12=> GNUtoo joins
13:12=> dcordes joins
13:12=> mickey|fsoMeetin joins
13:12=> Hellie joins
13:12=> Ice joins
13:12=> darkstar62 joins
13:12=> jontow joins
13:12=> toer joins
13:21=> zycho joins
13:25<= marex left/quit
13:34=> leaigor joins
13:36<= malgon left/quit
13:36=> malgon joins
13:42<= dcordes left/quit
13:54** mrmoku|away is now known as mrmoku|away
13:57<= MarcLandis left/quit
13:57=> MarcLandis joins
13:59<= goxboxlive left/quit
14:27<= jeremychang_ left/quit
14:29=> NexVision joins
14:31=> jumoit joins
14:38<= tjs_bsd left/quit
14:38<= cosein left/quit
14:38<= packetlss left/quit
14:38<= parmaster left/quit
14:38<= thinko left/quit
14:38<= otwieracz left/quit
14:38<= pigeon left/quit
14:38=> tjs_bsd joins
14:38=> cosein joins
14:38=> otwieracz joins
14:38=> pigeon joins
14:38=> parmaster joins
14:38=> thinko joins
14:38=> packetlss_ joins
14:47=> ccube joins
14:49<= ccube left/quit
14:49=> Captnoord joins
14:49=> ccube joins
14:52=> xfight81 joins
14:53<= ccube left/quit
14:53=> ccube joins
14:57 Captnoord makkonen: gj on the ts manager
14:57 Captnoord even that its a copy paste
14:58 Captnoord likes calibration... and that isn't copy paste
15:11=> c2d joins
15:22=> psz joins
15:22<= psz left/quit
15:32<= kvaster_ left/quit
15:33=> kvaster joins
15:38<= kholk989 left/quit
15:42<= lucx left/quit
16:06<= zycho left/quit
16:15<= jooprzol left/quit
16:15<= Captnoord left/quit
16:15=> yozgatg joins
16:19<= yozgatg left/quit
16:32<= kiozen left/quit
16:37<= c2d left/quit
16:51=> sxe joins
16:51=> luc_ joins
16:57=> Boydell joins
16:57 Boydell morning everyone
16:58=> NeoMatrixJR joins
17:09 babijoee morning Boydell
17:10 Boydell how goes it?
17:10 babijoee not good
17:11 babijoee my nexus one seems to have a problem
17:11 babijoee its not charging but rather stays at same capacity
17:11 babijoee i'm trying to fix it
17:11 babijoee but someone says i'll need to kill the battery first. That will take forever :p
17:11 Boydell uh oh. Did you do anything to cause this? Or it just started happening?
17:11 babijoee well someone else had this happening to them so
17:12 babijoee i'm not sure if its rom or kernel specific
17:12=> polyrhythmic joins
17:13 Boydell weird. Whats the battery life on that thing?
17:15=> dcordes joins
17:20 babijoee amazing
17:20 babijoee lol
17:20 babijoee i hope its just some silly bug
17:21 Boydell yah that is messed up. hopefully it works out for you
17:21 Boydell I wish it worked on my network :(
17:22 babijoee lol it might eventually
17:23 Boydell yah, by then though the neux 2 will be out
17:24<= ccube left/quit
17:27=> kiozen joins
17:28=> c2d1 joins
17:28=> tsdogs joins
17:32=> ccube joins
17:34<= c2d1 left/quit
17:35<= ccube left/quit
17:36=> ccube joins
17:38<= ccube left/quit
17:39=> ccube joins
17:39=> emwe joins
17:53<= jumoit left/quit
17:55<= ccube left/quit
17:58<= kvaster left/quit
18:06=> toi joins
18:12** mrmoku is now known as mrmoku
18:19=> MrPippy joins
18:21 Boydell Is there a way to get is so that the phone vibrates when there is a new text?
18:25 stinebd yes
18:25 stinebd in messaging, hit the menu button, go to settings, notifications
18:25 stinebd you can even change which tone it uses
18:26 stinebd much better than every app using the same tone i think ;)
18:26 Boydell well who the hell would hide in there? Thanks stinebd
18:30<= emwe left/quit
18:33=> AstainHellbring joins
18:46=> c2d joins
18:56<= toi left/quit
18:57** mrmoku|away is now known as mrmoku|away
18:57 NeoMatrixJR android port newb needs help setting up environment for RHOD/TP2 CDMA development. Can anyone point me to the right repo for this platform?
19:02=> kvaster joins
19:02 MrPippy i'm not sure which repo is the right one, this one i think http://gitorious.org/~mweirauch/linux-on-qualcomm-s-msm/linux-msm-topaz
19:02=> toi joins
19:03<= |Jason8| left/quit
19:04 phh [01:12:09] <makkonen> hmm. tssc calibrate is a 570K app? is that from compiling it -static? <---- yes static, AFAIK rootfs has no libc, so it's the only way
19:05 phh the size is not a problem, we can just make a new rootfs :p
19:05 phh anyway we would have to clean it.
19:05 phh [01:09:49] <stinebd> phh: if you're interested: http://maduin.southcape.org/~bryan/android/0001-Import-msm7k-cpufreq-governor-from-heroc-kernel.patch <------ i'm intereseted in reports :p
19:06 phh [01:21:32] <stinebd> MrPippy: what is this turbo mode stuff in the heroc kernel? it reminds me of those old compaq pentium computers with the turbo button <----- 528MHZ afaik (it's not enable=d by default)
19:06 phh [01:26:50] <MrPippy> yeah i haven't figured out what the heroc turbo mode is, the a11 is at 528 mhz either way, but it increases some other frequencies <-
19:06 phh oh right memory turbo then.
19:08 phh [01:50:55] <NetRipper> cr2_, enabled 576mb ram by modifying radio? <----- so 512MB DDR EBI + 64MB SMI, that sounds way better than usual
19:09 phh [02:33:37] <babijoee> so the downfall is less battery life <---- I'm not sure of that at all.
19:10 stinebd phh: re msm7k governor, no adverse effects, works as expected
19:10 phh you mean it's better or not ?
19:10 phh I wouldn't expect so as it's based on conservative iirc
19:11 stinebd no noticeable difference at default settings
19:11 stinebd other than the minimum freq being 275.6 or something
19:11 stinebd as opposed to 128
19:11 phh that might be the reason of the improvement more than the governor
19:13 NeoMatrixJR phh: reading through the back log from the other day, were you needing debug/test help from TP2 owners?
19:13 phh tomorrow
19:15 NeoMatrixJR I will try and be on then. Don't know if it makes much difference to you, but I've got a sprint cdma TP2 (no GSM help from me though...I don't have a GSM SIM active)
19:15 phh [03:20:54] <MrPippy> hmm i think smd_7500 needs to have more variables marked as volatile <---- the proper linux way is readl/writel (even if it isn't always easy)
19:15=> Boydell_ joins
19:15<= Boydell_ left/quit
19:16=> Boydell_ joins
19:16<= Bry8Star_ left/quit
19:17 Boydell_ how do i change my nick? lol
19:17 AstainHellbring do a /nick
19:18<= Boydell left/quit
19:18<= rashire left/quit
19:18** Boydell_ is now known as Boydell_
19:18 Boydell ah, there we go
19:19 Boydell thanks
19:20 phh [04:38:49] <makkonen> ...cept I can't seem to get it to run the calibration app from the rootfs, because the framebuffer isn't initialized. other than that, it works a treat. <----- muh ? if you see some text it means that fb is actually active :p, but maybe we have to request exclusivity to it
19:20 stinebd phh: the governor itself has some silly "sweet spot" algorithm modification to the frequency selection which favors performance a bit more than conservative, but frankly i don't see why it'd be much better
19:20 phh ok, might be just the 128MHz low frequency the problem then
19:21 stinebd most likely
19:22 stinebd have you tried tuning ondemand via sysfs at all yet?
19:24=> rashire joins
19:24 ToAsTcfh yeah my hero will lock up if i gho any lower then 200mhz
19:25 ToAsTcfh phh: anymore work on the camera?
19:25=> |Jason8| joins
19:25 phh no
19:25 ToAsTcfh bah
19:26 ToAsTcfh so whats new then
19:26 stinebd he's busy, call back in july
19:26 ToAsTcfh lol
19:27 phh [07:07:23] <MrPippy> that and a product id change, should make it identical to the g1 and windows should work <---- AFAIK we use hero IDs, so no need to change it
19:27 phh [07:12:57] <MrPippy> i think the only reason usbnet is on by default is because phh uses it <----- no I don't, it's for gnu/linux users
19:27 stinebd :>
19:28 ToAsTcfh yeah i guess backporting stuff from .29 into .27 isnt going well for us either.( ie camera and opengl)
19:28 Boydell Windows downloads drivers for my phone now, as a htc dream actually..
19:28<= dcordes left/quit
19:28 ToAsTcfh needing libs i guess for the camera
19:29<= tsdogs left/quit
19:31 ToAsTcfh phh what camera are u guys using anyhow
19:31 phh mt9t013
19:31 phh and mi830 or something like that
19:32 ToAsTcfh eh the gsm hero uses mt9t012
19:32 ToAsTcfh we use the 5kXXX
19:32=> Captnoord joins
19:32 Captnoord NetRipper: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/65199/ontwikkelaar-maakt-dual-boot-met-android-mogelijk-op-windows-mobile.html
19:33 Captnoord ya already knew of course
19:33 ToAsTcfh no 2.x libs yet for a msm_camera using our camera
19:33 stinebd whoa
19:33 stinebd it's in some kind of ancient dead language
19:33 Captnoord but why didn't you write the article
19:33 Captnoord :P
19:33 stinebd perhaps aramaic
19:33 Captnoord lol
19:34 Boydell http://translate.google.ca/translate?hl=en&sl=nl&u=http://tweakers.net/nieuws/65199/ontwikkelaar-maakt-dual-boot-met-android-mogelijk-op-windows-mobile.html&ei=H4dgS_vIEJXj8QaU65CEDA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://tweakers.net/nieuws/65199/ontwikkelaar-maakt-dual-boot-met-android-mogelijk-op-windows-mobile.html%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG
19:34 Boydell in case you want english
19:34 stinebd lol
19:34 stinebd thats one hell of a url
19:34 Boydell could have tinyurl it i guess
19:34 Boydell too lazy
19:34 Boydell just click it :P
19:34 stinebd it fits into one message, it's fine
19:35 Captnoord please don't try using a auto translate
19:35 Captnoord as it will generate crap
19:36 Boydell well, it makes it half read-able for me
19:36 Captnoord its just a new's article of the guy who made android / winmo dualboot
19:39<= packetlss_ left/quit
19:39 ToAsTcfh phh: u tried the sapphire libcamera and such i guess huh?
19:39=> packetlss joins
19:39 phh no
19:40 ToAsTcfh they use the same camera
19:40 phh yes and ?
19:40 ToAsTcfh well the libs cbridge between hw and software
19:41 phh you still haven't seen the android camera driver is independant of the kernel driver ?
19:41 phh since the kernel driver always exposes the same /dev/msm_camera/control0/frame0/config0 or something like that
19:41 ToAsTcfh eh no
19:41 ToAsTcfh yeah we got that too but the libs arent having it
19:43 ToAsTcfh weve gotten the camera to work correctly to a point. then when it tries to start a preview surfacer give a null instead of creating the surface ie preview
19:43 ToAsTcfh surfaceholder actually
19:44 ToAsTcfh which is part of the api all together
19:45 phh MrPippy: http://pjottrr.no-ip.org:81/redmine/issues/show/56 well done it seems.
19:45 ToAsTcfh so to me it seems like our issues on the heroc atleast is not having the proper libs for our camera
19:46 phh check V4L driver.
19:46 ToAsTcfh i think surfacecreate is trying to write too control0 but cant
19:46=> GlemSom joins
19:47 ToAsTcfh all the v4l drivers are from .29
19:47 phh yes and ?
19:47 Captnoord hmmm asus is charging me 414 euro's for repairing my laptop
19:47 Captnoord lolz
19:47 Captnoord like I gonna pay that
19:47 ToAsTcfh eh what u think its in v4l driver
19:48 phh ToAsTcfh: V4L2 api is *stable*
19:48 phh you have dozens of tools which are able to use it
19:48 phh so you won't rely on fucking stupid userland
19:49 ToAsTcfh yeah i just gotta find away around userland ur righ
19:49 phh I won't even tell you how many times android's userland fooled me.
19:49 stinebd heh
19:50** alphaone is now known as alphaone
19:50 ToAsTcfh but if msm_camera is using v4l2 then it should be done that way to begin with righ
19:50 phh ToAsTcfh: it's not using v4l2
19:50 phh v4l2 is just an alternate way to access to video
19:51 MrPippy phh: i did the usb change for 0c01 so that it would match the dream singleinterface (after doing echo 2 > usb_function_switch)
19:51 ToAsTcfh eh im on lunch and gotta get back to work. ill have to check into it later. thanx
19:52 MrPippy as long as babijoee can put the function_switch into /init or eclair.user.conf, it should work
19:52=> droid0011 joins
19:54<= droid001 left/quit
19:57=> bzo joins
19:58<= Captnoord left/quit
19:59=> Captnoord joins
20:01<= malgon left/quit
20:01=> malgon joins
20:04 NetRipper Captnoord, that's no real dual boot
20:04** alphaone|gone is now known as alphaone|gone
20:05 Boydell How can it be? Android can't boot on its own yet without WinMo?
20:06 NetRipper Captnoord, it just starts very early in the winmo boot process and displays a form.. if you choose android, it boots android, if you choose winmo, it just continues booting ;)
20:07 NetRipper Boydell, that too, but the kernel should be mature enough by now to include most init'ing
20:07 NetRipper so maybe it'd be possible already, somone still has to write the bootloader though, and add support to boot from xip
20:07 AstainHellbring vogue can
20:08 phh NetRipper: some stuff are still not working
20:08 NetRipper it can? i wasnt sure if dzo wsa there already :)
20:08 phh I got dex working
20:08<= sxe left/quit
20:09 Captnoord NetRipper: I know
20:09 NetRipper phh, nice :)
20:09 phh but panel init hang up
20:09 phh I don't know why
20:10 NetRipper you also work on the vogue phh?
20:10 phh no
20:10 phh the "new" wince devices are already a lot of work :p
20:11 NetRipper :p
20:11 NetRipper i gtg, training :)
20:11 NetRipper later
20:11 Captnoord k
20:17=> onen|openBmap joins
20:18=> BabelO_ joins
20:18<= toi left/quit
20:25<= babijoee left/quit
20:26<= luminoso left/quit
20:30<= malgon left/quit
20:32<= BabelO left/quit
20:33=> grayeul joins
20:35=> luminoso joins
20:36<= xfight81 left/quit
20:43=> GregLem joins
20:50 makkonen phh: yeah, the fb device issue was just dumb on my part. /dev/graphics didn't exist, so mknod /dev/graphics/fb0 failed. Easily solved. Now it works (except the scrolling of the console makes some of the targets hard to see -- is there a way to blank the console while it does the calibration?)
20:51 phh hum don't know
20:52 phh see how fbset -g works
20:53 phh maybe something with CON2FBMAP
20:55<= cyberdesigner left/quit
20:55=> cyberdesigner joins
20:59 phh makkonen: reading back from sdcard works ?
21:00 makkonen yeah
21:07 phh next step is blac, maybe even rhod/topaz's zoom bar
21:15 tmzt that's resistive isn't it? another android-specifc feature that needs bunged into kernel
21:16 phh uh ?
21:16 phh what android-specific ?
21:18<= ali1234 left/quit
21:19<= c2d left/quit
21:23 Captnoord I wonder what all this i2c stuff is with the ts driver in wince
21:24 Captnoord hmmm
21:24 Captnoord seems to be external ts controller
21:24 phh Captnoord: for which device ?
21:24 Captnoord raph....
21:24 Captnoord but I wonder.....
21:25 Captnoord I really do
21:25 Captnoord htc won't code device drivers for something that isn't there
21:25 phh lol.
21:25 phh I wouldn't bet on that :p
21:25 Captnoord I know... maybe they would
21:25 Captnoord debug code or something like that
21:27 Captnoord I wonder
21:27 Captnoord maybe they implemented stuff for a external ts
21:27 Captnoord with the video out stuff
21:27 Captnoord would be kick ass
21:28 Captnoord nah
21:28 Captnoord i'm dreaming
21:28<= GNUtoo left/quit
21:29<= Boydell left/quit
21:29 stinebd you definitely are
21:29 stinebd but it's much more interesting than reality at least
21:30 Captnoord its called when TouchNotifyEvent is called
21:30 Captnoord maybe they create a i2c driver for it to work with wince
21:30 Captnoord should stop dreaming
21:31=> Boydell joins
21:32 phh Captnoord: just get usb host :p
21:35 phh (ok I will.)
21:36 Captnoord lolz
21:36 Captnoord i'm just speculating
21:36 phh usb host is not speculation :p
21:36 Captnoord I know
21:37 Captnoord its not what I ment
21:37 phh but it will be tough to do :/
21:37 Captnoord hehe
21:37 Captnoord if everything was a walk in the part
21:37 Captnoord park
21:37 Captnoord life would be crap
21:37=> marcydarcy joins
21:39<= marcydarcy left/quit
21:40 Captnoord hmmm
21:40 Captnoord usb host
21:40 Captnoord lemme check
21:41 phh Captnoord: ?
21:41 Captnoord nothing
21:41 Captnoord just loading the usb driver into ida
21:41 Captnoord to look around
21:41 phh I meant in linux -_-'
21:41 Captnoord hehe
21:42 Captnoord we have raph device id and stuff
21:42 Captnoord regarding usb
21:45<= mickey|fsoMeetin left/quit
21:46=> mickeyl joins
21:47 mickeyl leviathan_: do you have a recent kernel/image from your tree for the dream somewhere?
21:47=> TivoTyro joins
21:49 MrPippy Captnoord: i've seen htc drivers that have ancient code in them on my diamond, like the serial port driver that had code for running as a usb host, from old htc devices that used that to connect to the radio
21:49 Captnoord maybe
21:49 Captnoord maybe
21:50 phh MrPippy: are you sure of the part "from old htc devices" ?
21:50 phh because these features doesn't sound stupid for diamond
21:51 phh oh you mean radio communication was over physical serial port ?
21:51 Captnoord maybe its test code
21:51 Captnoord used for factory testing
21:51 Captnoord because when you know the test pin's in the board
21:52 Captnoord you could turn it into something usefull
21:52 Captnoord but
21:52 Captnoord like all these things
21:52=> malgon joins
21:52 Captnoord we just don't know
21:52 MrPippy yeah like the htc universal, pxa270-based, used usb host to communicate with the msm
21:52 phh ah.
21:53 phh and you're sure it's what this code is about ?
21:53 phh anyway that don't surprise me at all
21:53=> tetsuo______ joins
21:54 MrPippy yeah i don't remember exactly what it was, but it was for that
22:02 Captnoord phh I wonder the usb host and the video out don't work at the same time?
22:03 phh don't know
22:03 Captnoord because it would be interesting to hook a display with with usb ts on it
22:03 Captnoord would be fun
22:03 Captnoord :P
22:04 Captnoord damn I really love the new Ida pro
22:04 Captnoord loads of tiny little things that make stuff just a bit easier
22:08<= kiozen left/quit
22:09<= tetsuo______ left/quit
22:10<= GlemSom left/quit
22:14<= skodde left/quit
22:14 MrPippy wow my phone has been in android for 12 hours, it really is stable now
22:15 Boydell my batt wont last close to that, maybe 5-6. But i left it on overnight and it seemed OK
22:15 phh MrPippy: because of volatile ?
22:16 MrPippy yeah
22:16 phh MrPippy: huhu
22:16<= Ekips left/quit
22:16 phh Boydell: I can do 7am to midnight, including 5 hours of spotify.
22:16 phh aka "you're doing it wrong"
22:18 Boydell :O
22:19 bzo agreed on diam500 stability
22:19 Boydell well, today is the first day of batt testing, but I unplugged it at about noon, its now 5PM and its reporting 30%. Mind you reporting IS wrong, but its close now..
22:20 phh if anyone have any idea of what is the most wrong in our power management btw ... :p
22:21 phh I'll try slow arm9 tomorrow
22:21 MrPippy under sleep, does winmo go into a lower-power mode? i know it shuts off usb on sleep
22:22 Boydell BUT makkonen said something about CDMA wakes up WAY too much
22:22 Boydell yah and thats ANNOYING actually..
22:23 MrPippy yeah it comes out of sleep pretty often if you're moving, like the modem wakes it up when you transition between cells or something
22:23 Boydell I'm not even moving, just sitting in my basement lol
22:24 phh MrPippy: one wake up by cell transition is fair -_-'
22:24 MrPippy if i'm somewhere with marginal coverage or going in/out of elevators/underground, it wakes up way too often
22:24<= malgon left/quit
22:25 makkonen I never confirmed what exactly was waking it up. I just knew it happened every 10-30 seconds when the radio was on, and very infrequently if it was off. I think I tried turning off data and it still kept waking. I'm in sort of marginal coverage zones all the time, though.
22:25 Boydell I have that problem in WinMo, roaming kills my batt....
22:26 phh MrPippy: maybe ril is wrong
22:30=> Psychonerd joins
22:33<= Boydell left/quit
22:33=> skodde joins
22:34<= Psychonerd left/quit
22:36** alphaone is now known as alphaone
22:37<= onen|openBmap left/quit
22:38** alphaone|gone is now known as alphaone|gone
22:40 bzo <sigh> compiled kernel about 10 times with different tweaks and none will work with adb
22:40 phh just revert MrPippy's patch
22:41 MrPippy bzo: are you doing usb_function_switch?
22:41 bzo I haven't been able to connect with adb with my own compiled kernel, even before MrPippy's patch
22:41 phh bzo: ah.
22:41 MrPippy linux or windows?
22:41 bzo both, but mainly tried through linux
22:42 MrPippy you do 'adb root' first?
22:42<= M1DLGpc left/quit
22:42 bzo If I copy over MrPippy's zImage (from xda) it works right away
22:42 phh and you do it with the "old" adb ?
22:42 bzo yes, adb root, using donut sdk
22:42=> M1DLGpc joins
22:43 MrPippy adb version makes a difference?
22:43<= AstainHellbring left/quit
22:43 bzo linux sees device with lsusb, and adb sees it but has "offline" status
22:43 bzo phh mentioned using 1.6 version earlier, seems to be the only version that works for me
22:43 phh same here :p
22:44 phh mmm offline status
22:44 phh I don't remember what it means
22:44 phh oh.
22:44 phh bzo: use fake charger thingy
22:44 phh htc_battery_smem.fake=1 I think
22:45 bzo in startup.txt?
22:45 phh cmdline yes
22:45=> Psychonerd joins
22:47=> ali1234 joins
22:50** mrmoku is now known as mrmoku
22:50 MrPippy i have htc_battery.fake_charger=1 in mine, module_name is defined as htc_battery
22:50=> Boydell joins
22:51 bzo i have htc_battery.fake_charger=1 in mine also
22:52 phh MrPippy: uh ?
22:52 phh in my memories htc_battery_smem.fake_charger=1 worked
22:53 MrPippy i'm not really sure, but htc_battery_smem has #define MODULE_NAME "htc_battery"
22:53 phh mmmmmmm
22:55=> zycho joins
22:55=> Ekips joins
22:56 bzo in any case, no effect with htc_battery_smem.fake_charger=1, still offline
22:56 Captnoord phh 1.6 is the way togo....
22:56 Captnoord the 1.6 on connect utb is the latest one of your building?
22:56 Captnoord or....
22:57 Captnoord you got stuff that wasn't reported on connet
22:57 phh mmm don't remember
22:58 Captnoord k
22:58 phh check around http://cobaltcode.com/fileupload//data/Android/
22:59 stinebd donut? what is this, 1993?
22:59** mrmoku|away is now known as mrmoku|away
22:59 Captnoord lol I just don't care...
22:59 Captnoord as long as it runs sweet
22:59=> sean joins
23:00 phh Captnoord: I think I'll work back on it anyway
23:00** sean is now known as sean
23:02=> [1]Captnoord joins
23:05 chamonix hey guys
23:06 Boydell hey chamonix
23:06 chamonix hey Boydell
23:06 Boydell how goes it?
23:06<= GeekLad left/quit
23:06=> Squarc joins
23:07 chamonix pretty good, if only my job wasn't killing me I'd say perfect :)
23:07 Boydell at least you have one :(
23:08 chamonix right, I am not complaining, I'm grate to have a job at a first place, and also for having one that is fun most of the time
23:08 chamonix s/grate/gratefull
23:08 Boydell bah. whats your job?
23:10 chamonix to sum up: lead engineer and projekt manager in a pretty big non-IT company
23:10 Boydell sounds fun. wanna hire someone from ontario ;) lol
23:12 chamonix would u mind moving to germany?
23:12 chamonix ;)
23:12 Boydell haha. Do I have to speak german?
23:14=> IceWewe joins
23:14 IceWewe I was directed here from http://www.htc-android.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=313
23:14 chamonix that would be part of the job too yes
23:14 Boydell aww man. I can barely speak my native language of english :(
23:17<= Boydell left/quit
23:17=> Boydell joins
23:21<= Captnoord left/quit
23:30 chamonix phh: you wanted me to test something?
23:31 phh chamonix: playing with cpufreq governors
23:32 chamonix sounds exciting :)
23:32 phh not really I think
23:32 stinebd fairly boring
23:32 chamonix I just finished testing the last image together with modules, I'll publish my report tomorrow
23:33 phh ok
23:33 phh you're still the only one with android on nand though :p
23:33 chamonix I really need to switch of as much SD as I can to see if it makes a difference
23:33 phh chamonix: have you tried removing sd card btw ?
23:33 phh .
23:34 ToAsTcfh phh: so i should just be able to use .27 v4l2 instead of trying to backport from .29
23:34 chamonix not yet, cache and user-init prevent me from doing so, I have to make a few changes to init
23:34 phh ToAsTcfh: yes
23:34 ToAsTcfh ok
23:35 chamonix phh: today I hit the 16 hrs wall
23:35 phh ramconsole ?
23:35 chamonix lol it didn't hurt, it's just the first time I got 16 hrs without any hickup
23:36 phh I don't know if I ever got that much either
23:36 phh i'm pretty sure this 16 hours limit is a stupid bug though
23:37 Boydell nand, are you referring to the normal writeable memory, or the flashable ROM?
23:37 chamonix I havent had a single freeze since nand except once when trying enable/disable WLAN multiple times yesterday
23:37 phh Boydell: what's the difference ...?
23:37 phh chamonix: huhu
23:37 chamonix phh: my 16 hours ws with one battery load, my phone has been running 3 days in a row without any problem but with loadings in btwn
23:38 phh ah.
23:38 phh bah.
23:38 phh why some people has a 16 (or 18?) hours bug
23:38=> cr2_ joins
23:38 Boydell Ummm. Well isnt there a Read-Only-Memory?
23:39 Boydell So where you "flash" a new ROM of WinMo...
23:39 phh Boydell: that's not read only memory if you can flash it :p
23:39 chamonix phh: doo you know what ramconsole says in those cases?
23:39 phh chamonix: no ....
23:39 ToAsTcfh CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=y
23:39 ToAsTcfh CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L2_COMMON=y CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L1_COMPAT=y CONFIG_VIDEO_MEDIA=y CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L2=y
23:39 ToAsTcfh CONFIG_VIDEO_CAPTURE_DRIVERS=y
23:40 ToAsTcfh eh that was messy
23:40 chamonix that's a pity
23:40 ToAsTcfh anyhow it still doesnt work
23:40 phh ToAsTcfh: you tried V4L userland ?
23:40 ToAsTcfh eh no
23:40 phh ....
23:41 ToAsTcfh config v4l2 userland?
23:41 phh -_-'
23:41 phh userland means tools that is not in the kernel
23:41 ToAsTcfh oh no i guess i gotta find that
23:42=> Boydell_ joins
23:43<= Boydell left/quit
23:43=> c2d joins
23:43 cr2_ phh: any fresh gps ideas ?
23:43=> peramikic joins
23:43 chamonix phh: have u got any feedback from some1 about the module u had added for network/tethering?
23:44<= Boydell_ left/quit
23:45 phh chamonix: no
23:45=> Boydell joins
23:45 chamonix ok, I'll take that too :)
23:45 phh cr2_: I'll try to send a reset arm9 at startup and see if I can survive that.
23:45** mrmoku is now known as mrmoku
23:46 phh would help booting from spl too
23:46 ToAsTcfh phh: i take it this is what ur refering too?! http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting/browse_thread/thread/f6b9c22ee45a68c4
23:47 phh not at all.
23:47 ToAsTcfh :/
23:47 phh ToAsTcfh: I said don't trust android.
23:47 phh don't use android stuff for that
23:47 phh use real linux v4l tools
23:48<= surgex left/quit
23:48 Boydell bah I keep getting disconected.
23:48 Boydell As i was saying, your BOIS is on read-only memory. but you can flash it
23:48 Boydell to write to read only you have to re-write the entire thing
23:49 phh I don't think so.
23:49 phh even if there is no software to do it other way
23:49 phh it works with blocks.
23:50 Boydell Yah but thats sketchy...
23:50 phh so same goes for our phones nand
23:50 phh there is no such thing as rom
23:50 Boydell True rom, no. Its just what its called..
23:50 chamonix phh: any progress on diam+nand?
23:51 phh what's called flashing is just sending erase blocks commands then write ones... which is exactly what is done on exfat partition too
23:51 phh chamonix: I need a working rom which leave some room.
23:51 chamonix lightnhb's not enuff for diam?
23:52 phh chamonix: the little one doesn't boot, the big one takes the whole nand
23:52 chamonix :-/
23:53=> droid joins
23:53 ToAsTcfh ok
23:53** droid is now known as droid
23:54 ToAsTcfh time to remove android from the search. but there was a bunch of mixed shit without it
23:55<= Guest78016 left/quit
23:55 cr2_ phh: reset arm9 ? how ?
23:56 phh cr2_: reset arm 9 dex command ?
23:56=> jooprzol joins
23:56 phh cr2_: the gpio pull down thing might also work if I have the correct values
23:58 cr2_ the dex is more harmless
23:58 phh arf
23:59 tmzt it's eraseable rom
23:59 tmzt it's not writable with normal bus ops
23:59 tmzt so it's rom
23:59 tmzt raw doesn't mean r/w anyway
23:59 tmzt ram
23:59 phh at least call it eeprom...
23:59 ToAsTcfh phh: do u got a link? cuz im finding a bunch of different stuff and im not sure which one im gonna need