| 00:01 | redeye | ok actualy i installed them but it sucked so much that google did download all old apps so i reupdatet the cyanogen mod in clockwork mod... |
| 00:01 | jojo_ | does anyone know bout the skeletal system in google apps |
| 00:01 | Jewel | am just angry, its less than 30 days and its dead! |
| 00:02 | jojo_ | what happened to your phone |
| 00:03 | Jewel | jojo_: donno, just dont wanna start again after a freeze/reboot |
| 00:04 | coldsun15 | jewel, what happened to you isnt androids fault...is a hardware problem by manufacturer |
| 00:05 | Jewel | i heard a lot about android, and so I wanted to give it a try |
| 00:05 | Spark | hmm ithink i properly screwed this one up |
| 00:05 | Spark | there doesn't seem to be anywhere else an unpriviledged user can put files |
| 00:05 | coldsun15 | theres a whole thread in xda thats about the M4G2DE chip, which seems to be faulty... |
| 00:05 | Nipqer | Jewel: its a bunch of faulty chips from samsung |
| 00:06 | Jewel | so its not about the system? |
| 00:06 | Spark | would a factory reset of the phone put /data back to normal? |
| 00:06 | coldsun15 | nope, totally hardware problem... |
| 00:06 | Jewel | or some default overclocking thing of CM7 maybe?! |
| 00:06 | Nipqer | Spark: how did you fuck it up? |
| 00:06 | coldsun15 | no, people with that emmc have had the same problem even unrooted |
| 00:06 | Spark | i made tmp not writeable |
| 00:07 | Spark | i set the owner to root |
| 00:07 | Spark | and forgot to put it back |
| 00:07 | Spark | and rebooted :) |
| 00:07 | Jewel | hmm, interesting |
| 00:07 | Spark | same thing i mentioned eralier |
| 00:07 | Spark | only now i've exhausted alternative options |
| 00:07 | jojo_ | i hate to see people complaing about a good phone |
| 00:07 | Jewel | then how can i know if the emmc is good before to buy? |
| 00:08 | Nipqer | Wipe data/factory rest will delete everything on your phone |
| 00:08 | Spark | but not the sd card right? |
| 00:08 | Nipqer | Nope |
| 00:08 | Nipqer | Jewel: you cant |
| 00:09 | Spark | i can probably live with that |
| 00:09 | coldsun15 | i guess u cant, but as soon as u get home, find out and if u get another faulty one, talk to htc or something... |
| 00:09 | Spark | it's the least i deserve :) |
| 00:09 | Jewel | Nipqer: your recommendation please for a new device? |
| 00:10 | jojo_ | nipqer can you point me to the mt4G root method i just finished downgrading |
| 00:10 | coldsun15 | well, gtg |
| 00:10 | coldsun15 | bye everyone |
| 00:11 | Jewel | bye coldsun15 |
| 00:11 | Jewel | tc |
| 00:13 | redeye | has the standard cyanogen mod google talk? |
| 00:14 | redeye | is it so heavy in the sys? |
| 00:14 | Jewel | welcome pierre_ja |
| 00:15 | pierre_ja | hi |
| 00:15 | redeye | hey |
| 00:15 | Jewel | ive been waiting for you :) |
| 00:15 | pierre_ja | :) |
| 00:15 | Spark | factory resets |
| 00:16 | pierre_ja | Jewel, you're the iphone lover? |
| 00:16 | Jewel | I get a problem with my device and I discussed it with Nipqer |
| 00:16 | Jewel | and he told me about you |
| 00:17 | Jewel | actually I heard a lot about android so I tried it |
| 00:17 | Nipqer | jojo_: instructions in the topic |
| 00:17 | pierre_ja | what am i supposed to do? |
| 00:17 | Jewel | and it was good before this problem |
| 00:17 | Nipqer | Its the same as the g2 root process |
| 00:17 | jojo_ | thanks brah |
| 00:18 | Jewel | pierre_ja: its a DZ, and its stuck at the htc logo |
| 00:18 | pierre_ja | Jewel, so you most likely have a hardware problem. the world continues to spin |
| 00:18 | pierre_ja | Jewel, can you boot to clockwork recovery? |
| 00:18 | Jewel | pierre_ja: then ur sure about this? |
| 00:18 | Jewel | pierre_ja: yup |
| 00:18 | pierre_ja | Jewel, if you can boot to clockwork we will check |
| 00:18 | pierre_ja | ok, do it |
| 00:19 | Jewel | I have hboot and recovery |
| 00:19 | Jewel | and s-off |
| 00:20 | pierre_ja | Jewel, ready? |
| 00:20 | Jewel | pierre_ja: uh huh |
| 00:21 | pierre_ja | in your cmd: |
| 00:21 | pierre_ja | adb shell |
| 00:21 | pierre_ja | cat /proc/kmsg | grep mmc |
| 00:21 | pierre_ja | copy the output and paste it to pstebin.com |
| 00:21 | pierre_ja | *pastebin.com |
| 00:22 | Jewel | pierre_ja: done |
| 00:22 | pierre_ja | good for you |
| 00:23 | pierre_ja | care hitting the submit button and give me the url, so it can be good for me too? |
| 00:24 | Jewel | http://pastebin.com/LgXjeEqs |
| 00:24 | pierre_ja | well, bad news. the emmc controller is beserk |
| 00:25 | pierre_ja | as a result the emmc is read only and there's nothing that can be done |
| 00:25 | pierre_ja | by software, i mean |
| 00:25 | pierre_ja | what you can do i buy a dz with a broken screen and swap mainboards |
| 00:25 | pierre_ja | *is |
| 00:26 | Spark | Nipqer: reset worked |
| 00:26 | Nipqer | Cool |
| 00:26 | Jewel | I have a question here |
| 00:26 | Jewel | where is the bootloader? |
| 00:26 | Jewel | if not on the emmc card! |
| 00:27 | pierre_ja | it's on the emmc card |
| 00:27 | Jewel | then its still functioning |
| 00:27 | pierre_ja | in order to use it you only have to read it, not to write to it |
| 00:27 | pierre_ja | that's why you can boot the phone |
| 00:27 | Jewel | aha |
| 00:27 | Jewel | can read but cannot write |
| 00:27 | pierre_ja | yes |
| 00:27 | Jewel | a full wipe can do the trick? |
| 00:28 | Nipqer | You can't wipe |
| 00:28 | Jewel | kinda reformat the drive |
| 00:28 | pierre_ja | no. wiping involves writing zeros. |
| 00:28 | Jewel | and recreate tables |
| 00:28 | pierre_ja | writing, got it? |
| 00:28 | pierre_ja | tables are written too |
| 00:28 | Jewel | its an emmc chip from samsung |
| 00:29 | Jewel | couldnt be just replaced? |
| 00:29 | Jewel | or can i use and ext-sd section as local memory to run the device? |
| 00:29 | Nipqer | No |
| 00:29 | Nipqer | Not without professional soldering skills |
| 00:29 | Jewel | the trick used for phones with small local memory |
| 00:29 | Nipqer | And qualcomm keys |
| 00:30 | Jewel | qualcomm keys?! |
| 00:30 | Nipqer | Yes |
| 00:31 | Jewel | is it a device? |
| 00:31 | Nipqer | Secret keys, fabled to exist and be guarded by dragons |
| 00:31 | pierre_ja | lol |
| 00:31 | Jewel | hehe |
| 00:32 | Jewel | then its restricted tp qualcomm |
| 00:32 | Jewel | to* |
| 00:33 | Spark | ah it feels good to see a # again |
| 00:35 | Jewel | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039504&page=6 |
| 00:35 | Jewel | guys, what do you think about post #58? |
| 00:35 | Jewel | such a lucky person! |
| 00:37 | pierre_ja | that guy dod not have your issue |
| 00:37 | pierre_ja | errors in the cache partition can mimick a dead emmc |
| 00:38 | pierre_ja | unfortunately you have the real deal |
| 00:39 | Jewel | hmm |
| 00:39 | pierre_ja | <4>[ 10.095367] mmc0: Starting deferred resume |
| 00:39 | pierre_ja | <6>[ 12.134368] mmc0: Deferred resume failed |
| 00:39 | pierre_ja | these are the signs of dead |
| 00:40 | Jewel | as for the cat /proc/kmsg ... its unix nop? |
| 00:41 | pierre_ja | what's the question again? |
| 00:41 | Jewel | its about the command line codes |
| 00:41 | pierre_ja | cat /proc/kmsg reads the kernel messages |
| 00:42 | pierre_ja | grep searches the cat output |
| 00:42 | pierre_ja | and shows the search results |
| 00:42 | Jewel | I want to understand it, where to start? |
| 00:42 | Jewel | book? some site? etc...? |
| 00:42 | pierre_ja | | is a pipe - it directs the output of the first command to the second one |
| 00:43 | pierre_ja | linux is that amazing! |
| 00:43 | pierre_ja | Jewel, grab an Ubuntu or Fedora and install on your pc |
| 00:43 | pierre_ja | there are books - linux for beginners etc |
| 00:44 | pierre_ja | be prepared to twist your mind in the beginning |
| 00:44 | Jewel | but its ready out of the box |
| 00:44 | pierre_ja | once twisted everything goes well |
| 00:44 | pierre_ja | the two distros i recommended are fully consumer ready |
| 00:45 | pierre_ja | have all the GUI stuff to make the transition easy |
| 00:45 | jojo_ | zup |
| 00:45 | pierre_ja | they have gone so far that you might not need to use the command line to do everyday tasks - music, videos, mail, web |
| 00:46 | Nipqer | But cli is awesome |
| 00:46 | pierre_ja | cli is a whole world |
| 00:47 | pierre_ja | i wish i could script like Hymie |
| 00:47 | pierre_ja | looks like magic when he does it |
| 00:48 | Nipqer | Yeah, he's had years of experience with it though |
| 00:48 | pierre_ja | not to mention Guhl's low level knowledge |
| 00:49 | pierre_ja | yesterday i wanted to combine 80 pdf pages into one document |
| 00:50 | pierre_ja | i could not because they were password protected, but that;s not the story |
| 00:50 | pierre_ja | there are command line tools to do that |
| 00:51 | pierre_ja | but my files were numbered in a way they could not align themselves to the page numbers |
| 00:51 | Jewel | hey again everybody |
| 00:51 | Nipqer | Shame |
| 00:51 | pierre_ja | and i did not know how to make a script to deal with the numbers |
| 00:51 | pierre_ja | i still don;t know lol |
| 00:52 | Nipqer | Annoy Hymie til he tells you |
| 00:52 | Nipqer | What do you normally use for scripts? |
| 00:53 | pierre_ja | well, here comes the shame issue - mu problem is so trivial tat 10 minutes on google will tell me how to solve it |
| 00:53 | Nipqer | Hahah |
| 00:53 | pierre_ja | if i ask Hymie he would think i'm lazy. and he will be right lol |
| 00:54 | pierre_ja | i'm also scared of skorgon asking me if i finally learned some vi |
| 00:54 | pierre_ja | because i haven't lol |
| 00:54 | Jewel | I have a question for you pierre_ja |
| 00:54 | pierre_ja | and i promised 7 months ago to learn it |
| 00:54 | pierre_ja | Jewel, shoot |
| 00:55 | Jewel | how you knew that I came from iphone world |
| 00:55 | pierre_ja | i think i know how to exit vi though - restart the computer lol |
| 00:55 | Jewel | we talked about it before you came in |
| 00:56 | pierre_ja | Jewel, the channel is logged |
| 00:56 | pierre_ja | and i'm a psychic lol |
| 00:56 | Jewel | where is the log file? |
| 00:56 | pierre_ja | http://irclog.netripper.com/?chan=G2ROOT |
| 00:57 | Jewel | so fast to read the page while joining! |
| 00:57 | Jewel | :) |
| 00:57 | Nipqer | I've used vim, but not vi |
| 00:57 | Nipqer | Hymie recommended vim |
| 00:58 | pierre_ja | i like gedit - gui and still powerfull |
| 00:58 | pierre_ja | can edit xml even |
| 01:01 | Jewel | whats your background (univ major)? |
| 01:02 | pierre_ja | who? |
| 01:02 | Jewel | you :) |
| 01:02 | pierre_ja | me? |
| 01:02 | pierre_ja | lol |
| 01:02 | Jewel | uh huh |
| 01:02 | pierre_ja | PhD in chemistry |
| 01:02 | pierre_ja | you? |
| 01:02 | Jewel | electrical eng |
| 01:03 | pierre_ja | cool. you should know more than i do |
| 01:03 | Nipqer | Me? Failure in BSc, majoring in CompSci |
| 01:03 | pierre_ja | lol |
| 01:03 | pierre_ja | Nipqer, you still have time to pass these two exams you screwed |
| 01:03 | Jewel | not really, MV and HV is quite diff than LV and electronics |
| 01:04 | pierre_ja | if i only knew what MV and HV are.... |
| 01:04 | Jewel | medium voltage and high voltage |
| 01:04 | Nipqer | pierre_ja: I want to take a year off and work and pay off my loan |
| 01:04 | pierre_ja | Nipqer, are you sure sure that's smart? |
| 01:05 | pierre_ja | cutting yourself off the academic atmosphere takes its toll - you will feel like an alien when you return after a yer |
| 01:05 | pierre_ja | *year |
| 01:05 | Jewel | Nipqer, I completely agree with pierre_ja |
| 01:05 | pierre_ja | i see that quite often, as you can guess |
| 01:07 | Jewel | hmm, I can see a lot of people here, but none is active! |
| 01:07 | jojo_ | join the army |
| 01:07 | pierre_ja | Jewel, ghosts of past roots |
| 01:07 | Jewel | what are they doing? private chats? |
| 01:07 | pierre_ja | ghosting, i guess lol |
| 01:07 | Jewel | past roots! |
| 01:08 | Jewel | explain a lil! |
| 01:08 | pierre_ja | well, like the ghosts of past Christmases, but applied to rooting |
| 01:08 | Nipqer | pierre_ja: yeah I'd almost agree with you, but I don't do much study at uni anyway, so it might be good to be forced into a rhythm |
| 01:16 | seco | keeps the fine art of idleing alive |
| 01:17 | seco | and i agree to pierre_ja: i have (not the time) to compare both at the same time: i always feel like that after a few days at customers... |
| 01:18 | Ultraman_ | sigh, webIRC blows |
| 01:19 | Ultraman_ | yet, too lazy to install something proper or to log into my server to configure this chan in there |
| 01:19 | pierre_ja | Ultraman, linux? |
| 01:19 | Nipqer | Haha |
| 01:19 | Nipqer | Just get irssi |
| 01:31 | Ultraman_ | ye |
| 01:31 | Ultraman_ | got irssi running 24/7 on my server |
| 01:31 | Ultraman_ | lol |
| 01:32 | pierre_ja | 'ye' what? |
| 01:32 | pierre_ja | damn i'm stupid today lol |
| 01:32 | Ultraman_ | reply to u |
| 01:32 | Ultraman_ | linux |
| 01:32 | pierre_ja | xchat ftw, then |
| 01:32 | Ultraman_ | ye know that one too |
| 01:32 | Ultraman_ | what would be ideal |
| 01:32 | Ultraman_ | is something that could connect to irssi on my server |
| 01:33 | Ultraman_ | of something I could run there, that irssi and a local client could connect to |
| 01:33 | pierre_ja | hm, i know shit about irssi |
| 01:33 | Ultraman_ | never really dived into it tho... |
| 01:33 | Ultraman_ | awesome console client |
| 01:33 | Ultraman_ | but XChat is fine too |
| 01:34 | Ultraman_ | want my phone back... sigh |
| 01:34 | Ultraman_ | I bet it isnt even repaired properly when I get it back, but let's hope... XD |
| 01:34 | Ultraman_ | Nokia 6230 is starting to bore me |
| 01:35 | pierre_ja | lol 6230? |
| 01:35 | Nipqer | Is awesome |
| 01:35 | Ultraman_ | on the plus side, I look less nerdy when I'm calling |
| 01:35 | Ultraman_ | ye it is awesome |
| 01:35 | pierre_ja | eve i had a samsung D500 before the g2 |
| 01:35 | pierre_ja | *even |
| 01:35 | Ultraman_ | but I've used that thing for what? 4.5 years |
| 01:36 | pierre_ja | but 6230? that's like a calculator |
| 01:36 | Ultraman_ | got a Nokia N85 in 2008, had fun with that |
| 01:36 | pierre_ja | i had my D500 for more than 5 years i think |
| 01:36 | Ultraman_ | but I was so glad my contract was over 2 years later :P |
| 01:37 | pierre_ja | should ask my wife what year it was when she gave it to me for christmas |
| 01:37 | Ultraman_ | D500 is a bit more hip than 6230 :P |
| 01:37 | Ultraman_ | bigger screen is handy tho :P |
| 01:37 | pierre_ja | it' a total hip lol |
| 01:38 | pierre_ja | sweet slider. i loved it so much |
| 01:38 | Ultraman_ | but does it still work? |
| 01:38 | pierre_ja | yes |
| 01:39 | pierre_ja | my niece has it now |
| 01:39 | pierre_ja | and she is scraping it and dropping it |
| 01:39 | pierre_ja | i can't recognize it anymore lol |
| 01:40 | Ultraman_ | haha |
| 01:40 | pierre_ja | she's terrible with electronic toys |
| 01:40 | Ultraman_ | too bad, but at least the phone is being used |
| 01:40 | Ultraman_ | most girls are in my experience |
| 01:40 | Ultraman_ | some get better with age |
| 01:40 | pierre_ja | i really want to buy her a small tablet and load it with everything she needs for school but she will break it in no time |
| 01:41 | Ultraman_ | she's the girly-girl type i guess? |
| 01:42 | pierre_ja | well, not as far as the cheerleader type, but yes |
| 01:42 | Ultraman_ | pretty average for a girl, thats good |
| 01:42 | pierre_ja | she's a good kid |
| 01:43 | Ultraman_ | how old is she? |
| 01:43 | pierre_ja | but she will not have expensive electronic toys soon lol |
| 01:43 | pierre_ja | she is 14 now, i think |
| 01:43 | pierre_ja | i'm terrible with numbers |
| 01:43 | Ultraman_ | haha puberty lol |
| 01:44 | pierre_ja | puberty fed with rocket fuel, i'd say lol |
| 01:44 | Ultraman_ | I remember my lil sis being that age |
| 01:44 | Ultraman_ | man... |
| 01:44 | Ultraman_ | bitch, me me me, whine |
| 01:45 | pierre_ja | same picture lol |
| 01:45 | Ultraman_ | she's 19 now |
| 01:45 | Ultraman_ | still has a furious temper when things dont go her way... |
| 01:46 | pierre_ja | but easier to be around her, i guess |
| 01:46 | Ultraman_ | and she'll be super angry for 2 to 4 hours |
| 01:46 | Ultraman_ | *well |
| 01:46 | Ultraman_ | next day: totally forgotten and all is whell |
| 01:46 | pierre_ja | that's sweet |
| 01:47 | pierre_ja | people who vent are a lot safer to deal with then the ones who build pressure inside |
| 01:47 | Nipqer | 19 aye? |
| 01:47 | Ultraman_ | ye |
| 01:47 | Nipqer | no chance she;s in NZ and single? |
| 01:47 | pierre_ja | lol |
| 01:47 | pierre_ja | Nipqer, you creep me out sometimes lol |
| 01:47 | Ultraman_ | not single, and nope: the opposite side of the world for u |
| 01:48 | Nipqer | I try my best |
| 01:48 | pierre_ja | now is one of these times |
| 01:48 | Ultraman_ | but we have family in NZ tho |
| 01:48 | Ultraman_ | :P |
| 01:48 | Nipqer | hot single females? |
| 01:48 | Ultraman_ | maybe in a couple of years she's visit NZ |
| 01:48 | Ultraman_ | doubt she'll be single and interested tho |
| 01:48 | Nipqer | lame |
| 01:48 | Nipqer | tell her I'm a lifeguard |
| 01:48 | Nipqer | and a tv star |
| 01:48 | Ultraman_ | hahah |
| 01:49 | pierre_ja | damn, dude, you don;t ask such things about people's sisters |
| 01:49 | Ultraman_ | dont really know much about my family over there, so I can't tell u about and hot nieces I might have over there |
| 01:49 | Nipqer | damn |
| 01:49 | Ultraman_ | whereabouts in NZ do u live anyway? |
| 01:49 | pierre_ja | i hope you remember when Hymie had the silent gay treatment for a month or two lol |
| 01:50 | Nipqer | Ultraman_, west auckland |
| 01:50 | Nipqer | pierre_ja, yes I do |
| 01:50 | Ultraman_ | haha |
| 01:50 | Ultraman_ | opposite side of NZ too |
| 01:50 | Nipqer | damn |
| 01:50 | Ultraman_ | my family lives in the area of Dunedin |
| 01:50 | Nipqer | closer to r3v0 then |
| 01:51 | pikkumyy | dunedain, ranger people |
| 01:51 | Nipqer | yeah, fits well with the whole middle earth thing we have going on here |
| 01:51 | Jewel | Hello again |
| 01:52 | pierre_ja | guhl, hi |
| 01:52 | Jewel | Nipqer and pierre_ja, thanks for your help today |
| 01:52 | Nipqer | no prob |
| 01:52 | pierre_ja | Jewel, np |
| 01:53 | Jewel | you are amazing guys |
| 01:53 | pierre_ja | yeah, i know lol |
| 01:53 | Jewel | where are you from? |
| 01:53 | Nipqer | NZ |
| 01:53 | Jewel | I would like to keep in touch |
| 01:54 | Nipqer | well we lurk here constantly |
| 01:54 | Jewel | if you feel like to for sure |
| 01:55 | pierre_ja | i'd continue to lurk here too if Nipqer stops showing up naked lol |
| 01:55 | Jewel | NZ for newzealand? |
| 01:55 | pierre_ja | no |
| 01:55 | pierre_ja | Naked Zealots lol |
| 01:55 | Nipqer | for New Zealand |
| 01:56 | Nipqer | pierre_ja, I don;t appear naked often |
| 01:56 | Jewel | how about you pierre_ja? |
| 01:56 | guhl | hi pierre_ja, hi Nipqer |
| 01:56 | pierre_ja | oh, so it's a special treatment? i'll respect that and stay lol |
| 01:56 | Jewel | hmm, is it an inside joke? |
| 01:56 | pierre_ja | Jewel, Bulgaria |
| 01:56 | pierre_ja | guhl, home ground finally? |
| 01:57 | Nipqer | hi guhl |
| 01:57 | guhl | back home, and an in my bed already |
| 01:57 | pierre_ja | cool :) glad to hear it |
| 01:57 | Jewel | so wanna share some coordinate? |
| 01:58 | pierre_ja | Jewel, we don;t kiss on a first date lol |
| 01:58 | Ultraman_ | u dont? |
| 01:58 | guhl | night guys lets see how i feel tomorrow |
| 01:58 | Nipqer | night guhl |
| 01:58 | pierre_ja | night, guhl |
| 01:58 | Ultraman_ | :P |
| 01:58 | Ultraman_ | night guhl :) |
| 01:58 | Jewel | is it same for you Nipqer? |
| 02:01 | Nipqer | how do you mean? |
| 02:02 | Jewel | some constant address, not volatile |
| 02:02 | Nipqer | here |
| 02:02 | Jewel | :) |
| 02:02 | pierre_ja | Jewel, you are weird |
| 02:03 | Jewel | why you say so? |
| 02:03 | pierre_ja | ho do you expect people on a logged rooting/hacking chatroom to share such details? |
| 02:03 | pierre_ja | *how |
| 02:04 | pierre_ja | we keep it really clean and legal, but still... |
| 02:04 | Nipqer | ha |
| 02:04 | Nipqer | clean and legal |
| 02:04 | Nipqer | good joke |
| 02:05 | Jewel | aha |
| 02:05 | Jewel | thats the story of ghosts then! |
| 02:05 | Jewel | then you just meet here, without making any direct contact with one another |
| 02:06 | Nipqer | pretty much |
| 02:06 | Jewel | its my first use to this service, and still trying to get it |
| 02:06 | Ultraman_ | nerds stay in their darkened rooms, always |
| 02:06 | Ultraman_ | ;) |
| 02:07 | Jewel | its all legal here, as rooting is legal as well |
| 02:07 | pierre_ja | yeah, Nipqer. clean and legal until someone shows up naked |
| 02:07 | Ultraman_ | :X |
| 02:07 | Jewel | is it logged for long? |
| 02:08 | Jewel | or just couple of days back? |
| 02:08 | pierre_ja | Jewel, forever |
| 02:08 | pierre_ja | the chatroom is here from years |
| 02:09 | Nipqer | well, 1.5years |
| 02:09 | Jewel | aha |
| 02:09 | pierre_ja | only 6 months more until it's 'years' lol |
| 02:09 | Jewel | and could anyone track anyone here? |
| 02:10 | Nipqer | how do you mean? |
| 02:10 | pierre_ja | Jewel, no you are setting all my red lights off |
| 02:11 | Jewel | :) |
| 02:15 | Nipqer | Jewel, you're lebanese? |
| 02:16 | Ultraman_ | would be my guess as well |
| 02:17 | Jewel | how you know? |
| 02:18 | Nipqer | magic |
| 02:18 | Jewel | come on, tell me |
| 02:19 | Nipqer | hackery |
| 02:19 | Jewel | how? |
| 02:19 | Nipqer | mad skillz |
| 02:20 | Jewel | ip origin right? |
| 02:20 | pierre_ja | Jewel, Nipqer used my psychic abilities |
| 02:22 | Jewel | hehe |
| 02:22 | Ultraman_ | using a Netgear router by any chance? |
| 02:26 | Jewel | Nipqer, you dont have an IP here, how you did it? |
| 02:26 | Ultraman_ | we dont? |
| 02:26 | Nipqer | magic |
| 02:27 | pierre_ja | Ultraman_, what router am i using? if any? |
| 02:27 | Jewel | you have some account! |
| 02:27 | Ultraman_ | I meant Jewel |
| 02:27 | Ultraman_ | but that was a pretty wild guess |
| 02:27 | Ultraman_ | the force was difficult to probe |
| 02:28 | Ultraman_ | it's at the very least something using the FreeBSD TCP/IP stack |
| 02:28 | Ultraman_ | but since that stack has been used in a plethora of OSes and devices... could be anything |
| 02:29 | Jewel | why? whats special about Netgear? |
| 02:29 | Ultraman_ | nothing much |
| 02:29 | Ultraman_ | hmm whats Bluecoat.... |
| 02:30 | Ultraman_ | some kind of proxy? |
| 02:31 | Ultraman_ | meh, not interested enough to dig deeper, gonna continue with posting my new OpenWRT build for some other geeks to use and i'm off to bed after that |
| 02:31 | Jewel | you mean Nipqer? |
| 02:31 | Jewel | he is the one without IP! |
| 02:32 | Jewel | Ultraman, ur from Netherlands? |
| 02:32 | Ultraman_ | correct |
| 02:32 | Ultraman_ | I'm quite visible on here |
| 02:32 | Ultraman_ | connected plain text and directly |
| 02:32 | Nipqer | Jewel, we don't have ip's in NZ |
| 02:33 | Ultraman_ | they have asians |
| 02:33 | Jewel | now the question for Nipqer, how to go invisible? :) |
| 02:33 | Nipqer | what do you mean? |
| 02:33 | Jewel | you are unaffiliated |
| 02:34 | Nipqer | yes. no ip's in NZ |
| 02:34 | Jewel | then how it works! |
| 02:34 | Jewel | ? |
| 02:34 | Nipqer | magic |
| 02:35 | Nipqer | I live in middle-earth |
| 02:35 | Jewel | come on, mr magic! |
| 02:38 | Jewel | nipqer, new zealand have ip ranges |
| 02:38 | Nipqer | oh really? |
| 02:38 | Nipqer | weird |
| 02:39 | Jewel | so how u do it? :) |
| 03:00 | Ultraman_ | hmm |
| 03:00 | Ultraman_ | couldnt r/c at first :( |
| 03:00 | pierre_ja | yeah, some split thing happened |
| 03:01 | pierre_ja | guess Jewew tried some skills |
| 03:01 | pierre_ja | lol |
| 03:01 | Ultraman_ | Nipqer probably used too much magic |
| 03:01 | pierre_ja | *Jewel |
| 03:01 | pierre_ja | Nipqer used his magic on my nick |
| 03:01 | Ultraman_ | keeping that thing synced with Middle-Earth is hard enough as it is |
| 03:01 | pierre_ja | so i guess some got spread |
| 03:01 | Ultraman_ | if he starts pumping all kind of magic through the same orb... |
| 03:02 | pierre_ja | his head would explode |
| 03:02 | pierre_ja | so we are safe lol |
| 03:02 | Ultraman_ | :) |
| 03:02 | Ultraman_ | sigh |
| 03:02 | Ultraman_ | building OpenWRT for some guys is fun |
| 03:03 | Ultraman_ | publishing them on FTP and Dropbox is OK too |
| 03:03 | Ultraman_ | typing a proper release msg, instructions and changes... |
| 03:03 | Ultraman_ | beh :P |
| 03:03 | pierre_ja | i'm pretty happy with my default firmware |
| 03:03 | Ultraman_ | what do u use? :) |
| 03:03 | pierre_ja | can spoof mac, so my provider can bite my ass etc |
| 03:04 | pierre_ja | is crawling to read the router's model |
| 03:05 | pierre_ja | wrt54gl |
| 03:05 | Ultraman_ | ah |
| 03:05 | Ultraman_ | thats a famous old model |
| 03:06 | Ultraman_ | the WRT software started with that one |
| 03:06 | pierre_ja | it's stable, does it's job good |
| 03:06 | pierre_ja | so i'm happy |
| 03:07 | Ultraman_ | ye thats excellent |
| 03:07 | Ultraman_ | I needed some more customization than the normal firmware offered |
| 03:07 | Nipqer | I'm using some dlink modem/router |
| 03:08 | Ultraman_ | I live a a house that houses 3 student couples |
| 03:08 | Ultraman_ | so 6 ppl |
| 03:08 | Ultraman_ | each couple has their own floow |
| 03:08 | Ultraman_ | but they all share one internet connection |
| 03:08 | pierre_ja | you stream live porn? LINK???? |
| 03:08 | Ultraman_ | with the old router, we also shared a single netowkr |
| 03:08 | Ultraman_ | *network |
| 03:09 | Ultraman_ | because I care about security, that wasnt fly with me |
| 03:09 | pierre_ja | theultramixeddorm.net i'd guess |
| 03:09 | Ultraman_ | so now each floor is it's own VLAN |
| 03:10 | Ultraman_ | and 3 seperate WiFi SSIDs that are bridged with the corresponding VLAN |
| 03:10 | pierre_ja | that's almost NASA level of networking lol |
| 03:10 | Ultraman_ | my neighbors can download all the trojans they want, wont bug me |
| 03:10 | Ultraman_ | :+ |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | oh and I do QoS, so my PC has special priority across the network |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | but thet dont know that |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | and I dont abuse it |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | :P |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | not more NASA than what u guys do with Android phones |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | ;) |
| 03:11 | Ultraman_ | plus OpenWRT makes it 'easy' (for geeks) |
| 03:12 | pierre_ja | but i can't wire up a house like you can, so we're even |
| 03:14 | pierre_ja | and we have a guru, mind you. we're mere followers |
| 03:21 | Ultraman_ | guhl? |
| 03:22 | pierre_ja | guhl what? |
| 03:22 | Ultraman_ | lol soms police truck with police escort just passed in front of my house |
| 03:22 | Ultraman_ | wondered if he was the expert |
| 03:22 | Ultraman_ | guru |
| 03:22 | pierre_ja | good thing they did not stop by the house and unload lol |
| 03:22 | pierre_ja | yes |
| 03:22 | Ultraman_ | two letters match |
| 03:22 | Ultraman_ | :P |
| 03:23 | Ultraman_ | plus read some of his posts |
| 03:23 | Ultraman_ | and the house was already wired up before I came here |
| 03:23 | Ultraman_ | cool patch box attached to the ceiling too |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | yet |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | the cables were in place |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | not connected to anything |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | :/ |
| 03:24 | pierre_ja | that save lots of dirty work, though |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | so thats what I did, plus configuring the router |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | but hey |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | nobody uses the cables |
| 03:24 | Ultraman_ | they all use wireless |
| 03:24 | pierre_ja | wifi is gay |
| 03:25 | Ultraman_ | I'm the only person in the house to use hard wired links |
| 03:25 | Ultraman_ | sure is |
| 03:25 | Ultraman_ | it works fine of course |
| 03:25 | Ultraman_ | but has a lot more overhead and delay |
| 03:25 | Ultraman_ | plus it can be insecure |
| 03:26 | Ultraman_ | and when two of my neighbors are using torrents |
| 03:26 | pierre_ja | security experts say "if you want security do not use wifi" lol |
| 03:26 | Ultraman_ | it get's quite slow because of all the crazy connections they make |
| 03:26 | Ultraman_ | got them to limit their upload, that helped a lot |
| 03:26 | Ultraman_ | but still.... brrr |
| 03:27 | Ultraman_ | tried playing Battlefield 3 once, got a 400ms ping |
| 03:27 | Ultraman_ | that's when I started testing Quality-of-Service settings |
| 03:27 | Ultraman_ | configured that for my box |
| 03:27 | Ultraman_ | wham, pings of 30ms |
| 03:27 | pierre_ja | haha, it;s like you are personally transferring packets to the other room |
| 03:28 | Ultraman_ | :P |
| 03:29 | pierre_ja | i have to go to bed. night all |
| 03:30 | Ultraman_ | cya! |
| 04:48 | yggdrasil | Nipqer: |
| 06:41 | booku | Anyone out there? |
| 06:44 | Nipqer | yes |
| 06:44 | booku | hey |
| 06:44 | booku | I have a Bell Desire Z |
| 06:44 | Nipqer | hi |
| 06:45 | booku | I tried to root it and load up Clockwork Mod Recovery |
| 06:45 | booku | But when I enter recovery it just sits with a cell phone and a red triangle and exclamation point |
| 06:45 | Nipqer | thats stock recovery |
| 06:46 | Nipqer | do you still have your cmd open from the root attempt? |
| 06:46 | booku | no |
| 06:46 | booku | I think can get it back up |
| 06:46 | booku | it boots fine normally |
| 06:47 | Nipqer | ok, can you tell me software and baseband version? |
| 06:47 | Nipqer | and tell me which guides you followed? |
| 06:47 | booku | oh I do still ahve the cmd up with all the logs as well |
| 06:47 | Nipqer | oh good, copy and paste everything in it to pastebin.com |
| 06:47 | booku | software 1.34.707.3 |
| 06:48 | booku | create a file pastebin.com and paste it or is there a way to do that in windows? |
| 06:49 | Nipqer | go to www.pastebin.com |
| 06:49 | Nipqer | copy everything in your cmd, paste it to pastebin |
| 06:49 | booku | baseband version 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.18_M3 |
| 06:49 | booku | got it |
| 06:49 | Nipqer | submit the url here |
| 06:49 | booku | http://pastebin.com/LKUM6Xn8 |
| 06:50 | Nipqer | whats with the mkdir ringtones thing? |
| 06:50 | booku | thank you for your help! |
| 06:51 | booku | oh that was before I rooted it, I thought maybe I could move my ringtones to internal memory so when the SD card was USB drive I would not lose them |
| 06:51 | booku | just me playing |
| 06:51 | Nipqer | ok |
| 06:51 | booku | sorry you may need to scroll down to where I started the root stuff |
| 06:52 | booku | I never new what adb was and when I realized I could poke around the internal memory I got curious |
| 06:52 | Nipqer | hahaha cool |
| 06:52 | booku | on a side not is there a directory map explaining where everything is, I am a linux newb so it is all a little foriegn to me still |
| 06:53 | Nipqer | well this is weird, you should have clockworkmod |
| 06:53 | Nipqer | yeah sec |
| 06:53 | booku | i know ls, cmd and how to Google, so I am dangerous is all |
| 06:53 | booku | so I used adb reboot recovery |
| 06:53 | booku | in cmd |
| 06:53 | yggdrasil | nip sup |
| 06:54 | booku | and I used holding volume down and pressing power |
| 06:54 | Nipqer | did you by chance go to hboot and accept the update? |
| 06:54 | Nipqer | yggdrasil, sup |
| 06:54 | yggdrasil | rejoice!!!! |
| 06:54 | booku | yeah i did |
| 06:54 | Nipqer | yeah, root and recovery |
| 06:54 | Nipqer | booku, after rooting? |
| 06:54 | yggdrasil | yep |
| 06:54 | booku | I left that update.zip from the going to exploitable firmware |
| 06:54 | booku | that mess it up? |
| 06:55 | booku | I got confused what it was trying to do, it kept skipping the recovery option |
| 06:55 | Nipqer | if you flashed the PC10IMG.zip after running gfree, it will overwrite the eng-hboot and recovery |
| 06:55 | booku | I see |
| 06:55 | Nipqer | booku, so remove the PC10IMG. and re-run the root instructions |
| 06:55 | booku | so I am still okay on the exploitable firmware, I just need to rerun those commands probably? |
| 06:55 | booku | sweet |
| 06:55 | Nipqer | yup |
| 06:55 | Nipqer | but leave the -f switch out of gfree |
| 06:56 | booku | I am to curious not to ask, what does -f switch do? and why leve it out? |
| 06:56 | Nipqer | it gives you s-off, supercid and simunlock. but you already have them, so no need to redo it |
| 06:57 | booku | I see, okay I will give it a shot and see if I can do some damage, thank you so much for the help! |
| 06:58 | Nipqer | here's a simple radio and hboot partition map http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#HBOOT_partition_map |
| 06:58 | Nipqer | though this might be more interesting http://tjworld.net/wiki/Android/HTC/Vision |
| 06:58 | booku | is it possible to move my ringtones and notifications to the internal memory with root? |
| 06:59 | booku | thanks, this is to much fun! |
| 06:59 | Nipqer | booku, yeah it should be |
| 07:00 | booku | why did my mkdir fail? |
| 07:00 | Nipqer | booku, no idea |
| 07:00 | Nipqer | oh, read-only fs |
| 07:01 | booku | is that where you would throw it, a ringtones directory |
| 07:01 | booku | I can write to data/local/tmp it seems |
| 07:02 | booku | where else can I write that would get seen for ringtones |
| 07:03 | Nipqer | I'm not sure. but you can remount the fs as read-write |
| 07:03 | Nipqer | and put it anywhere, might have issues with android finding it though |
| 07:03 | booku | when is the fs mounted? |
| 07:04 | booku | is that in the adb commands or somewhere else? |
| 07:06 | Nipqer | you can use adb shell, and commands in there to remount |
| 07:06 | booku | okay sounds good |
| 07:07 | booku | I was hoping to find where HTC stored the default ringtones and add mine to it so Android finds mine, the directory map should help with that, thank you! |
| 07:08 | Nipqer | well with a few linux commands, and common sense you should be able to find it easy |
| 07:11 | booku | ClockworMod Recovery! Thank you nipqer! |
| 07:11 | Nipqer | no prob |
| 07:13 | booku | it look like CM 7.1.0 was the latest verison for the Desire Z, I hear rumbling about CM9, is the Desire Z going to get CM9, did it stop at CM7? |
| 07:14 | Nipqer | cm 7.1 is old now. Yes we will get cm9 |
| 07:15 | booku | Is there something newer than 7.1 that I should use today? |
| 07:16 | demoncamber | oh man do i need help |
| 07:16 | Nipqer | booku, if you can find someone to give you a 7.2 kang, I'd say use that |
| 07:16 | Nipqer | demoncamber, what with? |
| 07:17 | demoncamber | i'm doing the http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier and i downgraded and now am stuck at one of the root processes |
| 07:17 | Nipqer | where? |
| 07:17 | demoncamber | adb push su /sdcard/ |
| 07:17 | demoncamber | i get the failed to copy 'su' to '/sdcard//su': Permission denied |
| 07:18 | Nipqer | disable usb storage |
| 07:18 | demoncamber | sure, in the phone? and what to? |
| 07:18 | Nipqer | on the phone, make sure it is in charge only mode |
| 07:18 | Nipqer | then redo that adb push command |
| 07:19 | demoncamber | done, do i need to reboot the phone? |
| 07:19 | Nipqer | no |
| 07:19 | demoncamber | i also have visionary installed and permroot done, do i still need to do this? |
| 07:19 | demoncamber | i ended up installing it after i ran into trouble with that command |
| 07:20 | Nipqer | wait, you told visionary to permroot? |
| 07:20 | demoncamber | yeah after i couldnt figure out why the command was not working so i gave up on it but just realized the link to this chat room |
| 07:21 | Nipqer | well there are a ton of warnings out there saying 'do not use visionary' |
| 07:21 | Nipqer | it is a curse |
| 07:21 | Nipqer | unfortunately, no one knows what it does. so I cannot help you |
| 07:21 | demoncamber | lol really? so i'll just go and unroot it and uninstall and continue |
| 07:22 | Nipqer | and hope it doesn't brick your phone |
| 07:22 | demoncamber | ok uninstalled |
| 07:23 | demoncamber | do i need to start over with all these commands or just continue where it stopped working |
| 07:24 | demoncamber | hey it worked! thanks man |
| 07:24 | demoncamber | going to push through the other commands |
| 07:24 | Nipqer | yeah just continue where it stopped |
| 07:24 | demoncamber | is cyanogenmod much cooler than gingerbread? |
| 07:24 | demoncamber | anxious to check it out |
| 07:24 | demoncamber | i got this phone 3 days ago lol |
| 07:25 | booku | How long should the wipe data/factory reset take in ClockworkMod Recovery? I have been looking at a hat with a circular arrow under it for 10 minutes now... |
| 07:25 | Nipqer | demoncamber, gingerbread is the version. cyanogenmod is a rom. so cyanogenmod 7 is gingerbread |
| 07:25 | Nipqer | booku, read the topic |
| 07:26 | demoncamber | ok, so wait, am i doing this all for nothing? lol |
| 07:26 | demoncamber | i get what you are saying though |
| 07:26 | Nipqer | demoncamber, how do you mean? |
| 07:27 | demoncamber | well, cyanogenmod is more powerful than just the oem gingerbread that my phone came with right? |
| 07:27 | coldsun15 | depends on what your looking for... with cyanogenmod u'll get some extra stuff that u dont get with stock gingerbread |
| 07:29 | demoncamber | i actually just wanted to root gingerbread |
| 07:29 | demoncamber | but couldnt figure out how |
| 07:29 | coldsun15 | look at it this way...cyanogenmod is customized to be better than stock |
| 07:30 | demoncamber | will cyanogenmod be going to ICS? |
| 07:30 | coldsun15 | from what i understand they are already working on it... it'll come in cyanogen 9 |
| 07:30 | Nipqer | demoncamber, yes |
| 07:31 | coldsun15 | hey nipqer |
| 07:31 | Nipqer | yo |
| 07:32 | demoncamber | so i will be able to just flash that onto this phone then? |
| 07:32 | Nipqer | demoncamber, yes |
| 07:32 | demoncamber | ok I'm stuck at another option |
| 07:32 | Nipqer | booku, sort it out? |
| 07:32 | booku | yeah the power button takes me back, camera button selects :) |
| 07:33 | Nipqer | yup thats it |
| 07:33 | booku | 10 minutes of starring at a hat thinking something is happening |
| 07:33 | demoncamber | after it drops you out of shell after the /data/local/tmp/psneuter command |
| 07:33 | booku | I am learning |
| 07:33 | demoncamber | i do: adb shell |
| 07:33 | demoncamber | it gives me: adb shell |
| 07:33 | demoncamber | permission denied |
| 07:34 | Nipqer | booku, its nice to see someone actually interested in the process and trying to learn shit for themselves |
| 07:34 | Nipqer | demoncamber, what OS are you using? sure you're not already in shell? |
| 07:35 | demoncamber | windows 7 |
| 07:35 | demoncamber | x86 |
| 07:35 | demoncamber | i'm just following the guide |
| 07:35 | booku | thanks, I am dying to contribute somehow and understand this stuff, go to start somewhere |
| 07:37 | coldsun15 | yeah, im trying to learn stuff too contribute, but unlike u, i have a hard time dealing with programming and stuff...but, on the positive side, i've found out that with all research done, i can at least answer some basics lol |
| 07:37 | demoncamber | yup and it gives me another permission denied when i try ./busybox md5sum /dev/block/mmcblk0p18 |
| 07:38 | Nipqer | booku, excellent, we could use more help here if you're up for it |
| 07:38 | Nipqer | demoncamber, copy all of your cmd to pastebin.com |
| 07:38 | demoncamber | sure |
| 07:39 | booku | coldsun15, I count on persistance and patience to make up for any skills I lack, enough banigng my head against something it eventually goes in usually! |
| 07:40 | booku | until I can contribute technically is the best monetary way through the cyanogen paypal donate, or are you guys here a part of another group? |
| 07:40 | demoncamber | http://pastebin.com/SLTp4K7L |
| 07:40 | Nipqer | booku, we don't accept donations here, we point them all to eff as they keep it legal for us |
| 07:41 | coldsun15 | yeah, but what do u study?? im a business admin student (about to finish), and i've never done anything related to this sort of stuff...of course everything i learnt i have from reading and hanging here |
| 07:41 | Nipqer | demoncamber, run psneuter |
| 07:41 | demoncamber | sure |
| 07:43 | coldsun15 | my point is, even though i have learned a few things, im still far a way of getting to a level where i can help with the technical stuff like, for example, nipqer does |
| 07:43 | booku | BS in Electrical Engineering, and a MS in Agricultural Engineering myself...I am a bit more of a hardware guy, but it seems my head is made a little more for this stuff than business, I wish I knew business though! |
| 07:43 | demoncamber | thank you nipqer! |
| 07:43 | Nipqer | coldsun15, I think I was here a month or 2 before I started helping |
| 07:44 | Nipqer | demoncamber, no prob |
| 07:44 | coldsun15 | lol, you teach me, ill teach you heheheh |
| 07:44 | booku | deal! |
| 07:45 | coldsun15 | nipqer, well, thats why i still come around whenever i can...as u mught have noticed, i try to chip in anytime i can...but i still know im far off to getting at a level where i could help the way u do |
| 07:46 | Nipqer | well every little bit helps |
| 07:46 | coldsun15 | nipqer, i agree on that |
| 07:46 | Nipqer | I'm still a noob compared to the likes of Guhl |
| 07:46 | demoncamber | ok i pushed through, ready to flash cyanogen |
| 07:47 | coldsun15 | what do u study nipqer? |
| 07:47 | Nipqer | compsci |
| 07:47 | coldsun15 | yeah, well, kinda of have a serious advantage there, lol |
| 07:48 | Nipqer | well, short of me failing, I suppose so |
| 07:50 | booku | CM7, victory is mine! |
| 07:50 | coldsun15 | woohoo |
| 07:51 | booku | Nipqer, EFF received $25 in your name just now, keep up the good work! bed time...later all |
| 07:51 | Nipqer | haha excellent, night booku |
| 07:51 | coldsun15 | night! |
| 07:53 | coldsun15 | nipqer, where do u study? |
| 07:53 | Nipqer | UoA |
| 07:54 | demoncamber | ok |
| 07:54 | coldsun15 | which is?? (sorry, im from Uruguay, SouthAmerica) |
| 07:54 | demoncamber | one more question guys |
| 07:54 | demoncamber | i have just discovered rom manager for the first time HOLY SHIT is that awesome. |
| 07:55 | demoncamber | now, i have a choice, should I install A. Cyanogenmod or B. Creamed Glacier? |
| 07:55 | coldsun15 | i havent researched for roms for other devices other than DZ... but from the names, id say glacier would be if u want to have sense |
| 07:56 | Nipqer | coldsun15, I'm in NZ |
| 07:56 | Nipqer | demoncamber, I wouldn;t have a clue about glacier roms |
| 07:56 | demoncamber | Creamed Glacier is the beta ICS for my phone, but camera doesnt work and a few other "bugs" |
| 07:56 | Nipqer | well, your choice |
| 07:56 | demoncamber | i know and a hard one |
| 07:56 | coldsun15 | ah, nice, my cousin went to NZ for a year, told me its beautifull there |
| 07:57 | demoncamber | so everything works in cyanogen right? |
| 07:57 | Nipqer | yes |
| 07:57 | Nipqer | coldsun15, awesome |
| 07:57 | coldsun15 | demon, yes, at least it should |
| 07:57 | demoncamber | im trying to find the strength to wait for a stable non beta ICS version, maybe i will |
| 07:57 | demoncamber | ok cyanogen here i come |
| 08:02 | coldsun15 | demoncamber, enjoy! |
| 08:02 | demoncamber | ok one last thing, if i wanted to go back to the original version of gingerbread for my phone, could I do this with rom manager |
| 08:03 | Nipqer | just use the PG15IMG |
| 08:03 | coldsun15 | i'd recommend u follow the guides over at xda for going back... |
| 08:03 | demoncamber | pg15img was froyo no? |
| 08:03 | demoncamber | thats what i used to downgrade in order to root, had to downgrade from ginger to earlier version |
| 08:04 | demoncamber | 2.2 |
| 08:04 | coldsun15 | ah, right, my bad...ur not on a G2 or DZ, sorry, i dont know if there are guides for yours |
| 08:04 | Nipqer | yeah, but then you could OTA |
| 08:04 | demoncamber | ok ok, so, if i'm in 2.2 right now and rooted, i can OTA right now without rom manager right? |
| 08:04 | Nipqer | you should be able toi |
| 08:05 | Nipqer | to* |
| 08:05 | demoncamber | i was looking for the option but cant find it |
| 08:05 | coldsun15 | actually, can u OTA while rooted? |
| 08:06 | coldsun15 | it was in my understanding, that this was not possible...then again, maybe i misunderstoof |
| 08:06 | demoncamber | i could of swore the check for updates was in the about phone menu in 2.3 |
| 08:06 | coldsun15 | yes, it is there in 2,2 too |
| 08:07 | coldsun15 | or should be |
| 08:07 | demoncamber | not for me lol |
| 08:07 | coldsun15 | but arent u using CM7? |
| 08:07 | demoncamber | not yet |
| 08:07 | coldsun15 | in CM7 i dont think u have the option, because i wouldnt be able to update OTA |
| 08:07 | demoncamber | i was following this wiki http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide#Downgrading_to_1.17.531.2 |
| 08:07 | coldsun15 | lol, then i have no clue |
| 08:08 | demoncamber | i basically just downgraded to 2.2 and rooted |
| 08:08 | Nipqer | anyway, I gtg, be back in 30 mins or so |
| 08:08 | coldsun15 | should be in about phone - software update |
| 08:08 | demoncamber | later man |
| 08:08 | coldsun15 | later nipqer |
| 08:08 | Nipqer | cya |
| 08:08 | demoncamber | i'm thinking of trying a factory data reset |
| 08:08 | demoncamber | thaks for the help |
| 08:09 | demoncamber | hmm i kinda want to go back to ginger lol |
| 08:09 | coldsun15 | demoncamber, from what i understood when researching was that OTA update is not posible when rooted |
| 08:09 | coldsun15 | maybe thats why u dont have the option... |
| 08:09 | demoncamber | ok |
| 08:09 | demoncamber | so if i do a factory data reset will it unroot the phone |
| 08:10 | coldsun15 | mmm, that i dont know... |
| 08:10 | demoncamber | i remember seeing a guide for this |
| 08:10 | coldsun15 | there should be guides to unrooting at xda |
| 08:10 | demoncamber | to unroot so you can bring it in for servicing |
| 08:10 | coldsun15 | yeah, i know for the dz there are several... |
| 08:10 | coldsun15 | there should be for ur too |
| 08:11 | coldsun15 | i'd recommend using a guide to get u unrooted and the update OTA |
| 08:11 | demoncamber | oh wow it's really easy |
| 08:12 | coldsun15 | yeah, the ones i read didnt look hard at all, and looks to be faster than rooting |
| 08:12 | demoncamber | very much so |
| 08:13 | demoncamber | it took me forever to downgrade and root for my first time, but now i pretty much understand it all |
| 08:13 | demoncamber | cool. |
| 08:13 | coldsun15 | other thing u could try is getting a gingerbread sense rom for your device |
| 08:15 | coldsun15 | that way ud have gingerbread, sense, and still be rooted if u ever wanna try something else (so that u dont have to go rooting and unrooting) |
| 08:39 | coldsun15 | bye erveryone! off to bed!! |
| 08:39 | Nipqer | night |
| 09:56 | zocca | is it possible to backup original rom before i do anything ? |
| 09:57 | Nipqer | depends on the rom |
| 09:57 | Nipqer | what software are you on? |
| 09:57 | Nipqer | version* |
| 12:30 | sector4 | morning all |
| 14:55 | eddiegame | HaHallo |
| 14:55 | eddiegame | Anyone ther |
| 14:55 | eddiegame | Heeeelooooo ? |
| 14:55 | eddiegame | I need some Help oO |
| 19:10 | nicksmith_ | the instructions on the website has just caused by bootloader to loop =\ |
| 19:13 | pierre_ja | sup |
| 20:32 | jc_ | hello |
| 20:33 | jc_ | anybody home? |
| 20:37 | pierre_ja | hi |
| 20:39 | jc_ | hi |
| 20:41 | pierre_ja | having phone troubles? |
| 20:41 | jc_ | i am trying to help a friend out she did an upgrade to her desire z and now its full of bugs and she wants to downgrade but i was reading and am having some difuculty with getting root to work on the phone it can adb into it and have root but when i try and use titanium back up it says i dont have root access |
| 20:42 | jc_ | i have superuser installed and everything but i dont want to continue with out backing up |
| 20:43 | pierre_ja | are you following that guide? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 |
| 20:43 | jc_ | yes to a t |
| 20:43 | pierre_ja | then please copy your cmd to pastebin.com |
| 20:43 | jc_ | ok one minute |
| 20:44 | jc_ | well actually the buffer size is a little small |
| 20:44 | jc_ | and well there isnt anything usefull on it |
| 20:44 | pierre_ja | too bad... |
| 20:44 | pierre_ja | anyways |
| 20:44 | jc_ | i did everything it says and got the desired respons |
| 20:45 | jc_ | and its still rooted in adb |
| 20:45 | pierre_ja | did you reboot the phone after you applied the fixsu.sh? |
| 20:45 | jc_ | yes but ill do it again maybe third times the chamr |
| 20:45 | pierre_ja | no, wait |
| 20:45 | pierre_ja | once you reboot everything you have done disappears |
| 20:46 | jc_ | damn |
| 20:46 | jc_ | lol |
| 20:46 | pierre_ja | because the phone is not unlocked yet |
| 20:46 | jc_ | its quick to redo |
| 20:46 | pierre_ja | so, redo |
| 20:46 | jc_ | gimme a few min |
| 20:46 | pierre_ja | skip the push and chmod commands - your files are still in /data/local/tmp |
| 20:49 | jc_ | k so like i said its still rooted |
| 20:50 | jc_ | didnt have to do anything to get it that way |
| 20:50 | jc_ | its got the # sign instead of the $ sing |
| 20:50 | jc_ | sign |
| 20:51 | pierre_ja | hm |
| 20:51 | pierre_ja | that's not expected from what you are doing |
| 20:52 | pierre_ja | can you please do the following command? |
| 20:52 | pierre_ja | dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7 bs=1 count=2 skip=2559 | /data/local/tmp/busybox hexdump -C |
| 20:53 | pierre_ja | paste the output here |
| 20:53 | jc_ | sure thing boss and the temp rooting for backup step is the exact same for perMrooting |
| 20:54 | pierre_ja | it is if you have s-off |
| 20:54 | pierre_ja | that;s what we will check with the dd command |
| 20:56 | jc_ | its not letting me copy and paste |
| 20:56 | pierre_ja | too bad for you. you will have to write it lol |
| 20:57 | jc_ | it says 2+0 records in |
| 20:57 | jc_ | 2+0 records out |
| 20:57 | jc_ | 2 bytes transfered in .018 sec bla bla bla |
| 20:57 | pierre_ja | F00 or F01? |
| 20:58 | pierre_ja | *ff |
| 20:58 | jc_ | 000000 ff 01 |
| 20:58 | pierre_ja | s-on |
| 20:58 | jc_ | 00000000s |
| 20:58 | jc_ | 000002 sorry |
| 20:58 | pierre_ja | iwas interested in the ff part |
| 20:58 | jc_ | nothing about s-0n part |
| 20:59 | jc_ | or did that tell you s-on and wtf is s-on or s-off |
| 20:59 | pierre_ja | the phone is s-on, so unless someone was quite hacky with it there is no way for the root access to pertain after a reboot |
| 20:59 | pierre_ja | ff 01 is s-on |
| 20:59 | pierre_ja | ff 00 is s-off |
| 21:00 | jc_ | but then how is root still there when abd logs back in |
| 21:01 | pierre_ja | there is a way, which involves unlocking, putting su in /system, relocking |
| 21:01 | pierre_ja | as i said - hacky |
| 21:01 | jc_ | i didnt do that |
| 21:01 | pierre_ja | turn the phone off, remove the battery for 20 seconds, the reinsert it and turn it on |
| 21:02 | pierre_ja | let's see if the root is not kept in the 'fast boot' htc feature |
| 21:02 | jc_ | k bat out |
| 21:03 | jc_ | booting |
| 21:04 | jc_ | booted |
| 21:06 | jc_ | its gone |
| 21:06 | jc_ | no more root |
| 21:06 | jc_ | :( |
| 21:06 | pierre_ja | go to setting and disable the fast boo |
| 21:06 | pierre_ja | then adb shell |
| 21:07 | pierre_ja | and do the fre3vo thing, then everything from the 'temproot to backup' section |
| 21:07 | jc_ | still there didnt reboot though |
| 21:07 | pierre_ja | ? |
| 21:07 | jc_ | sorry still not there |
| 21:08 | jc_ | ignore me ill do that stuff again |
| 21:08 | pierre_ja | redo the guide |
| 21:08 | jc_ | gimme a few |
| 21:08 | pierre_ja | yes |
| 21:08 | pierre_ja | ok, i'll be watching a movie, so i might be slow answering |
| 21:28 | jc_ | k well it worked for a few seconds |
| 21:28 | jc_ | im just redooing it again |
| 21:30 | pierre_ja | pastebin your cmd now. you're doing something wrong |
| 21:51 | jc_ | the phone did this little reboot type thing but i think i got it now its backuping up as we speek |
| 21:51 | jc_ | speak |
| 21:51 | jc_ | and i guess its technicaly typing |
| 21:56 | jc_ | http://pastebin.com/hhs1puvN |
| 22:19 | jc_ | the link is broken to get the right downgrade rom |
| 22:24 | Nipqer | Can you link the downgrade guide you are following? |
| 22:25 | Nipqer | Also, grab a rom from shipped-roms.com |
| 22:25 | Nipqer | And evening pierre_ja |
| 22:26 | Nipqer | I'll brb |
| 22:28 | jc_ | shipped roms does not have for desire z |
| 22:28 | jc_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1178912 |
| 22:29 | Nipqer | Yes it does. Look for 'Vision' |
| 22:30 | Nipqer | Did you get the batch files from that guide? |
| 22:30 | jc_ | no i made them my self |
| 22:31 | Nipqer | Oh ok cool |
| 22:32 | jc_ | just so i didnt have to type all that shit a bunch |
| 22:32 | jc_ | is the vision the same as desire z |
| 22:32 | jc_ | cause its all just vision asia stuff in there and im definatly not from asia |
| 22:32 | jc_ | although i am pretty asian right now |
| 22:33 | Nipqer | Vision is the codename for the desire z and g2. Get a WWE rom |
| 22:33 | jc_ | its really easy to make a batch file |
| 22:34 | jc_ | just make a txt file add the lines of cmd to run then save it |
| 22:34 | jc_ | rename it .bat |
| 22:34 | jc_ | and then put it in your platform tools forlder and in your cmd window just type in the bat name |
| 22:34 | Nipqer | I know |
| 22:34 | Nipqer | http://shipped-roms.com/download.php?category=android&model=Vision&file=RUU_Vision_HTC_WWE_1.34.405.4_Radio_12.28b.60.140e_26.03.02.24_M_release_155297_signed.exe |
| 22:34 | jc_ | oh |
| 22:34 | Nipqer | Use that one |
| 22:35 | jc_ | y not the bell one? |
| 22:35 | Nipqer | You have a bell dz? |
| 22:35 | jc_ | yup |
| 22:35 | Nipqer | Use a bell one then, if you can find it |
| 22:35 | jc_ | well its not mine but im just trying to fix it cause she did and update that made it all buggy |
| 22:36 | Nipqer | I was just wondering who made the batch files cause we frown upon one click solutions here, and that's borderline. But if you made it yourself its cool |
| 22:38 | jc_ | y frown upon oneclicks? |
| 22:38 | jc_ | alls those batch files are doing is the typing for me |
| 22:39 | jc_ | do i use the exe file and just use that to update the phone? |
| 22:40 | Nipqer | Because one click solutions make it too easy, so if any problems arise, people are stupid and don't have a clue where to start |
| 22:41 | helpmepls | ok guys i need help |
| 22:41 | jc_ | gotcha |
| 22:42 | helpmepls | i was following the cyanogen wiki to do a complete downgrade from ginger to froyo then rooted to install, but i have to return my phone to tmobile now and am stuck in root mode |
| 22:42 | jc_ | so do i use the RUU to do the update? |
| 22:42 | helpmepls | i need to know how to get back to stock original tmobile ginger |
| 22:43 | Nipqer | jc_: yeah just run the ruu |
| 22:44 | Nipqer | helpmepls: do you have stock froyo on it? |
| 22:44 | jc_ | just wondering about the s-on and s-off stuff do i need to be worried? |
| 22:44 | helpmepls | not exactly sure, i just followed the wiki |
| 22:45 | Nipqer | helpmepls: boot up your phone and tell me what software is on it |
| 22:45 | helpmepls | 2.2.1 |
| 22:45 | Nipqer | jc_: do you want full root? |
| 22:45 | Nipqer | helpmepls: build number? |
| 22:46 | helpmepls | 1.17.531.2 cl277036 |
| 22:47 | Nipqer | That's an odd one. Never seen that build before |
| 22:47 | helpmepls | splendid lol |
| 22:47 | Nipqer | Oh well. Still got gfree on it? |
| 22:47 | helpmepls | not sure let me check |
| 22:47 | Nipqer | Just run adb shell, cd to /data/local/tmp and run 'ls -l' |
| 22:48 | helpmepls | ok i can do this with terminal emulator on phone? |
| 22:49 | Nipqer | Oh, and tell me if you have a $ or # in adb shell |
| 22:49 | Nipqer | Yup |
| 22:53 | helpmepls | still downloading the ap |
| 23:00 | Nipqer_ | I'm in a dodgy area right now so I'll prob keep d/cing |
| 23:05 | Nipqer_ | Got it yet? |
| 23:09 | helpmepls | ok sorry i finally got the terminal up |
| 23:09 | helpmepls | i have a $ |
| 23:09 | jc_ | k so now i cant get root back? i would like to restore my titanium back ups |
| 23:10 | helpmepls | ok i ran ls -l |
| 23:14 | helpmepls | if i type in adb shell and hit enter in terminal emulator it gives me a permission denied though |
| 23:18 | Nipqer | jc_: what firmware are you on? |
| 23:18 | Nipqer | helpmepls: yeah adb shell will throw an error. Did you cd to /data/local/tmp and do ls -l in there? |
| 23:19 | helpmepls | how do i do that in terminal em |
| 23:20 | Nipqer | 'cd /data/local/tmp' |
| 23:20 | Nipqer | 'ls -l' |
| 23:20 | Nipqer | Just run them |
| 23:21 | helpmepls | opendir failed, perm denied |
| 23:23 | Nipqer | For /data/local/tmp? Weird |
| 23:23 | helpmepls | yeah.... |
| 23:23 | jc_ | ad vr 2.2 bb vr 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.18_m3 |
| 23:24 | helpmepls | i actually popped my sd card out before and totally reformatted it, that might have something to do with it? |
| 23:24 | helpmepls | ON MY PC |
| 23:24 | helpmepls | sorry caps |
| 23:24 | Nipqer | helpmepls: it won't. That does mean you lost part7backup though |
| 23:24 | helpmepls | i backed it up |
| 23:25 | Nipqer | jc_: you could try use zergRush to temp-root |
| 23:25 | helpmepls | ok good to know, i also have other backup files do i need them? part17backup and a few other |
| 23:25 | Nipqer | And restore your apps if you don't want perm root |
| 23:25 | helpmepls | i have visionary handy |
| 23:25 | Nipqer | Oh you saved the backups? |
| 23:25 | Nipqer | No |
| 23:25 | Nipqer | Do not use visionary |
| 23:26 | helpmepls | yeah i copied the sdcard to my desktop |
| 23:26 | Nipqer | Cool. Anyhow, in terminal emulator, run 'su' |
| 23:26 | helpmepls | ok well now i dont even have any icons whe i boot up my phone, its just blank screens with wallpaper |
| 23:26 | helpmepls | su perm denied |
| 23:27 | Nipqer | Reboot to bootloader and tell me the first line |
| 23:27 | helpmepls | is it an easy process to just reflash to ginger? |
| 23:27 | helpmepls | ok doing that now |
| 23:28 | helpmepls | gacier pvt ship s-on |
| 23:28 | Nipqer | Yeah simple as, but we want to make it look like you havn't rooted your phone |
| 23:28 | helpmepls | cool |
| 23:28 | helpmepls | i was up till 5am last night trying to figure it out :( |
| 23:28 | helpmepls | i thought i really messed up my phone |
| 23:28 | Nipqer | Oh that's why the 1.17 |
| 23:29 | Nipqer | Did you use visionary to root? |
| 23:29 | helpmepls | not at first, but i did play around with it later, i've done quite a bit since then |
| 23:30 | helpmepls | i have not done anything since i reflashed with PD15IMG.zip |
| 23:30 | Nipqer | Ok, well no one knows what visionary actually does. Yeah that should return you to complete stock |
| 23:30 | Nipqer | See if you can get an OTA for gingerbread |
| 23:30 | helpmepls | that's what i thought but i have no OTA menu |
| 23:30 | helpmepls | in the about phone section |
| 23:31 | helpmepls | i remember in ginger it said check for updates |
| 23:31 | Nipqer | Strange. Might have to try dig up a gingerbread PD15IMG |
| 23:31 | helpmepls | in there, but it's totally not there now since i downgraded |
| 23:32 | helpmepls | i dont know what PD15IMG im using now that's probably the issue, i need to know where i can find it |
| 23:32 | Nipqer | Oh, in dialer you can put it a code |
| 23:32 | Nipqer | #checkin# or something |
| 23:32 | helpmepls | and it will try to update? |
| 23:33 | Nipqer | Yeah, just google checkin number to make sure its right |
| 23:33 | jc_ | k so i got root in ADB again but not on phone |
| 23:33 | jc_ | with that zergrush |
| 23:33 | Nipqer | Run the fixsu.sh script |
| 23:33 | jc_ | hold on i forgot to install superuser |
| 23:34 | helpmepls | awesome man you are a life saver it's *#*#checkin#*#* |
| 23:34 | helpmepls | im going to try that |
| 23:36 | Nipqer | helpmepls: funny thing is, I literally am a Lifeguard |
| 23:36 | helpmepls | hahahaha |
| 23:39 | helpmepls | the plot thickens, the chekin worked, i got the notice that i was checked in, but then it says to go to the check for update menu and check, but i dont have that |
| 23:39 | Nipqer | That checkin thing work? |
| 23:42 | Nipqer | Dang |
| 23:42 | helpmepls | agreed |
| 23:44 | helpmepls | now i do have these two files: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=843289 |
| 23:44 | helpmepls | just not sure exactly what to do with them |
| 23:44 | Nipqer | http://www.filefactory.com/file/c0a19ad/n/PD15IMG_Glacier_Gingerbread_S_TMOUS_2.32.531.1_Radio_12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M_release_227522_signed.zip |
| 23:44 | Nipqer | Nah forget those, download that |
| 23:45 | helpmepls | i fucking love you |
| 23:47 | Spork | hi, i'm trying to downgrade the firmware on the phone and i was wondering at the step in bootloader when you select "bootloader" is anything supposed to happen? |
| 23:48 | helpmepls | free slots are used up i'll let u know when i get it DL'd |
| 23:50 | Pickpoket | yes if you are doing the manual method most it should find the file you put on the SDcard |
| 23:50 | Pickpoket | - that was to Spork |
| 23:51 | Pickpoket | What phone do you have I had the same issue with mytouch 4g after the OTA software update |
| 23:52 | Spork | Pickpoket, all i saw was PC10IMG.zip missing |
| 23:52 | Spork | i have a G2 |
| 23:53 | Spork | also, i verified that PC10IMG.zip is on the sdcard |
| 23:54 | Nipqer | Spork: try the fastboot method |
| 23:57 | Spork | thanks Nipqer, i'll give it a try |
| 23:57 | pierre_ja | morninh, Nipqer |
| 23:57 | pierre_ja | *morning |
| 23:57 | Nipqer | Was your movie that long? |
| 23:59 | pierre_ja | yes |
| 23:59 | pierre_ja | watched 2012 |
| 23:59 | pierre_ja | its 90 minutes |