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00:00 RJackson Yes,
00:00 RJackson just wait until the backlight on the keys turns off in WinMo, before booting Android
00:00 RJackson and then they'll always be off in Android.
00:00 Nion_ Guest61991... read the history n stuff man
00:00 Guest61991 hmm
00:00 Major_Sarcasm make sure you don't have KeypayLEDControl running in WinMo before booting Android or they'll never turn off
00:01 Guest61991 my problem is: i got keypad led controll or smth like this, so on winmo my backlight is always on out off standby
00:01 Major_Sarcasm ta-da!
00:01 Linkman hello, how can i decrease touch sensitivity?
00:01 Guest61991 wait, cause
00:01 Major_Sarcasm kill the process before boot
00:01 Guest61991 i killed the process
00:01 Guest61991 and the backlight is still always on @ android
00:01 Nion_ Chaps... please take this discussion to -chat
00:02 RJackson Come here, guest: #htc-linux-chat
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00:02 Guest61991 there are no users which are informed like here :D
00:02 Major_Sarcasm most are in both chans
00:02 Nion_ go to -chat
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00:11 Cotulla [acl]?
00:11 Ham3r bye guys :)
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00:16 Nion_ With the ubuntu build for HD2, is it possible to use a normal keyboard without using usb host? for example ssh over usb?
00:16 ali1234 sure
00:16 ali1234 try installing synergy
00:17 Nion_ will do, cheers
00:17 ali1234 alternatively you can probably do something with bluetooth hid
00:18 ali1234 if all else fails you can hack your own driver with uinput
00:18 ali1234 might need a kernel recompile for that one
00:18 Nion_ install synergy on the phone yer?
00:19 ali1234 you would install synergy on both the phone and your desktop machine
00:19 ali1234 set the desktop as the server and phone as client
00:19 ali1234 then you can move your mouse pointer off the side of the desktop screen, and it will appear on the phone screen. like dual head
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00:19 ali1234 keyboard focus follows just like normal
00:20 Nion_ over usb?
00:20 ali1234 over any tcp network
00:20 Nion_ ah, unfortunately wifi doesn't work
00:20 ali1234 well you can do networking over usb
00:20 Nion_ ah, course..
00:21 ali1234 (assuming you have working usb that is)
00:21 Cotulla u need install Cydia at first
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00:21 ali1234 i don't know all what hardware works on all phones :)
00:23 Cotulla seems u are clear from poison :D
00:23 Cotulla I had checked u :D
00:23 gauner1986 :D
00:24 Cotulla arrrr........................................................lights?
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00:25 gauner1986 cotulla: what was the sysfs file again that you wanted to use?
00:26 gauner1986 backlight is also controlled via liblights?
00:27 Cotulla yes\
00:27 Cotulla so
00:27 Cotulla "/sys/class/leds/lcd-backlight/brightness"
00:27 Cotulla "/sys/class/leds/keyboard-backlight/brightness"
00:27 Cotulla err no
00:27 Cotulla "/sys/class/leds/button-backlight/brightness"; insteda of keyboard-backlight
00:28 Cotulla "/sys/class/leds/main/brightness";
00:28 gauner1986 main?
00:28 Cotulla hm should we store 7 states as brightness?
00:28 Cotulla gauner1986, we have ONE led with 7 states
00:28 Cotulla 0 - OFF
00:28 gauner1986 yes..
00:28 Cotulla 1 - AMBER ON
00:28 Cotulla 2 - GREEN ON
00:28 gauner1986 i have that on irc log
00:28 Cotulla 3 - BLINK GREEN - AMBER
00:29 Cotulla 4 - AMBER BLINK
00:29 Cotulla 5 - GREEN BLINK #1
00:29 Cotulla 6 - GREEN BLINK #2
00:29 Cotulla so I suggest to use
00:29 Cotulla different levels of brightness as type ?
00:29 Cotulla or add second one:
00:29 Cotulla "/sys/class/leds/main/control"
00:29 gauner1986 earlier you posted it like this: 0 - all off 1 - dual blink 2 - full green 3 - full amber 4 - blink green1 5 - blink green2 6 - blink amber
00:29 Cotulla it's order...
00:30 Cotulla so
00:30 Cotulla gauner1986 which way is better?
00:30 gauner1986 hm.. calling that brightness is somewhat confusing..
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00:31 Cotulla ok so use "brightness" & "control"
00:31 gauner1986 it's rather a state
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00:31 gauner1986 but what does brightness do then? those led doesn't have brightness
00:31 Cotulla yes
00:31 Cotulla 0 - off
00:31 Cotulla 255 - on
00:31 Cotulla like button light
00:31 Cotulla http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/msm7k.git;a=blob;f=liblights/lights.c;h=af435c3ee5d6f40af50e1c83c5ff1ce58fabb712;hb=852205246a4b9cf2bea4ca42b5c52a6798cb37b4
00:31 gauner1986 ok
00:32 Cotulla err = write_int(KEYBOARD_FILE, on?255:0);
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00:33 gauner1986 cotulla: why do they include checks like static int g_haveAmberLed = 0; ?
00:33 gauner1986 are there different devices that don't have this led?
00:34 Cotulla explain more
00:34 Cotulla don't forgot: we have not dpad light
00:34 gauner1986 If yes, just support green and amber. */
00:34 gauner1986 g_haveAmberLed = (access(AMBER_LED_FILE, W_OK) == 0) ? 1 : 0;
00:34 Cotulla and we can't set timing
00:34 Cotulla and we have one led
00:35 Cotulla but is it assume that we can control amber and green separately
00:35 Cotulla ?
00:35 Cotulla in our case we have 7 predefined states...
00:35 gauner1986 seems like it
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00:35 gauner1986 they have a filer for amber
00:35 gauner1986 and a file for green
00:35 damonwang please tell me if this is the wrong channel to ask. I'm trying to connect a dev phone 1 (firmware 1.6) to a debian machine. I've tried the udev rule, some older solution using hal, restarting the adb server as root, and throughout I just get the phone attached as /dev/sda with no partitions. Does anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
00:36 Cotulla I can't turn on AMBER & GREEN at same time
00:36 gauner1986 hm
00:36 Cotulla because there no option in supported 7 options
00:36 gauner1986 so it's probably one led
00:36 Cotulla I guess yes...
00:36 gauner1986 which can do both
00:37 Cotulla we also can't setup time of blink
00:37 Cotulla it have 3 fixed blink types
00:37 Cotulla two GREEN blink and one AMBER blink
00:37 gauner1986 strange thing
00:37 gauner1986 who controls the led at last instance then?
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00:38 kingofyo1 hey people
00:38 kingofyo1 ok so ijust picked up my hd2
00:38 dan1j3l liblights should be easy to make
00:38 Cotulla ?
00:38 Cotulla so
00:38 gauner1986 cotulla: i mean.. what makes the led then actually blink like it should?
00:38 Cotulla we have 1 LED
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00:39 WoZZeR [acl]: you here?
00:39 Cotulla MicroP
00:39 Cotulla handle all inside
00:39 gauner1986 ok
00:39 Cotulla we just have 7 states
00:39 Cotulla CE usage:
00:39 Cotulla Amber blink - low power
00:39 Cotulla Green blink - notify1
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00:39 Cotulla Green blink 2 - notify2
00:39 Cotulla Amber full - charging
00:40 Cotulla Green full - full charge
00:40 Cotulla Dual blink
00:40 gauner1986 do i have to assign that in liblights somewhere?
00:40 Cotulla charging fail... something likethis
00:40 Cotulla overcharge...
00:40 Cotulla too hot..
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00:40 gauner1986 yeah
00:40 gauner1986 i saw that while it was connected in my car
00:40 Cotulla u need make such mapping
00:40 gauner1986 ^^
00:40 ToAsTcfh phh: any progress?
00:41 Cotulla so u need handle cases
00:41 Cotulla and choose right state for led
00:41 Cotulla write state to "control"
00:41 Cotulla even u can drop "brightness"
00:41 Cotulla because it's useless
00:41 gauner1986 yeah
00:41 gauner1986 i already thought that
00:42 damonwang oh. hmm. solved it, and I won't post why because it's the first newbie mistake on every google hit for this problem.
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00:47 gauner1986 uh.. android page has quite some information on porting :P
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00:53 ala380 manusfreedom: how is it going with fullram? anything new to report?
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00:57 gauner1986 re dcordes
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00:57 dcordes hi
00:59 dcordes 16:49 ali1234 yes, implement a proper /sys/class/power_supply driver and it will work anywhere
00:59 Cotulla hello
00:59 dcordes Cotulla: hi
00:59 dcordes Cotulla: do you know how to do the above ?
00:59 Cotulla explain please.
01:00 dcordes it seems like your battery driver doesn't expose the status data to userspace in the standard way
01:00 dcordes i.e. like other battery drivers would do it
01:00 Cotulla status = cable or bettery?
01:00 ali1234 dcordes: Documentation/power/power_supply_class.txt
01:01 Cotulla if u about cable status NONE USB AC
01:01 Cotulla it should be same
01:01 dcordes Cotulla: percentage
01:02 dcordes ali1234: thanks
01:02 Cotulla battery driver need android alarm (?)
01:02 Cotulla u solve this problem?
01:02 dcordes Cotulla: what's android alarm ?
01:02 Cotulla wait
01:03 dcordes Cotulla: gnome power management system can read some things like voltage status but not current (percentage)
01:03 Cotulla somethings..which ones?
01:04 Cotulla drivers/rtc/alarm-dev.c and etc
01:04 Cotulla Android alarms
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01:04 dcordes All voltages, currents, charges, energies, time and temperatures in µV, µA, µAh, µWh, seconds and tenths of degree Celsius unless otherwise stated. It's driver's job to convert its raw values to units in which this class operates.
01:05 Cotulla all this should work. can u exactly say that isn't working?
01:06 dcordes Cotulla: the gnome monitor program shows 0%
01:07 Cotulla other values are right?
01:07 dcordes I don't understand why as android can show the correct value
01:07 dcordes yes.
01:07 Cotulla even temperature?
01:07 dcordes let me check
01:08 Cotulla what about dbgfs
01:08 Cotulla log?
01:08 dcordes Cotulla: I can read percentage value manually
01:09 dcordes cat /sys/devices/i2c-0/0-0026/power_supply/battery/current
01:09 Cotulla so it's problem in IF
01:09 Cotulla u have working drivers
01:09 dcordes yes the driver works
01:09 Cotulla for ur system?
01:09 dcordes I want to make it work in ubuntu and any other linux userspace
01:09 Cotulla examples
01:09 ali1234 maybe gnome version doesn't match kernel version?
01:10 dcordes aha
01:10 Cotulla u have examples of working drivers?
01:10 ali1234 they might have changed the abi
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01:10 hunterkll back from vac
01:10 Cotulla how ur hand
01:10 Cotulla ?
01:10 hunterkll anyone need obscure lk knowledge?
01:10 hunterkll still broke
01:10 Cotulla lk?
01:11 dcordes ali1234: we are talking about this battery driver from cotulla: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=arch/arm/mach-msm/board-htcleo-battery.c;h=2e8b50e47e60ce6d95c6e230f4625e7714d456b8;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32
01:11 hunterkll apt: lizzard is the greatest person that ewver exisyted
01:11 apt hunterkll: okay
01:11 hunterkll Cotulla: linux kernel
01:11 ali1234 dcordes: that power_supply folder should show up in /sys/class too, so you already have a "proper" driver
01:11 hunterkll apt: forget lizzard
01:11 apt i forgot lizzard, hunterkll
01:11 hunterkll apt: lizzard is the greatest person that ever existed
01:11 apt okay, hunterkll
01:11 ali1234 dcordes: but if the kernel ABI is not the version gnome expects it might act funny
01:12 ali1234 dcordes: what ubuntu version, what kernel version are you using?
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01:12 Cotulla maybe Ubuntu need something else than POWER_SUPPLY_PROP_CAPACITY?
01:12 hunterkll ali1234: what does gnome care about kernel abi????
01:12 ali1234 hunterkll: it reads battery charge level from /sys
01:12 hunterkll Cotulla: pm under 'standard' linux is kind of standardized
01:13 dcordes ali1234: kernel=2.6.32 ubuntu=9.10 gnome=2.28.1
01:13 hunterkll ali1234:reading text interface = binary interface?
01:13 Cotulla maybe. now we know:
01:13 Cotulla 1)driver put right value to system
01:13 Cotulla 2)system looked for another value or lost it somewhere
01:13 ali1234 hunterkll: the documentation about /sys is mostly in Documentation/ABI - i don't make this stuff up :)
01:14 hunterkll ali1234:reading text interface = binary interface?
01:14 hunterkll er
01:14 hunterkll w.t.f.
01:14 hunterkll i mean
01:14 hunterkll i drinking a bit
01:14 dcordes gnome-about
01:14 dcordes Brought to you by: many people
01:14 hunterkll why gnome care about batter driver
01:14 dcordes ali1234: any way I can check what my current abi tries to read ?
01:15 hunterkll why is not single applet ?
01:15 ali1234 dcordes: well you can try strace, or just get the code of the battery widget in gnome
01:15 hunterkll DE should not care about pm. just widget.
01:16 dcordes ali1234: it is abstracted via DBUS
01:16 hunterkll ali1234: is not source available?
01:16 hunterkll ....
01:16 ali1234 then you can use dbus-monitor
01:16 hunterkll dcordes: dbus is sin
01:16 ali1234 but at some point, something is reading from /sys
01:17 ali1234 9.04 expects kernel 2.6.31 so you might check the kernel changelog for changes in how battery level is reported
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01:18 hunterkll ali1234: abi in this instance may be refering to platform specific /sys layout. i do not recall if sys was unified past 2.5 kernels
01:18 dcordes ali1234: I know there was a change in dbus recently regarding power management
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01:18 dcordes ali1234: something was split up into a seperate project called upower or so
01:18 hunterkll dcordes: SHOULD IT not be bacwards compat?
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01:19 Cotulla it must not :)
01:19 hunterkll oh yes
01:19 ali1234 dcordes: i see a bunch of changes on power_supply_class.txt in july 2009 - that's newer than 2.6.31 but older than 2.6.32. could be your problem
01:20 hunterkll unix = 100.1% compat
01:20 ali1234 (if they changed the doc they changed the code too)
01:20 hunterkll linux = -100.1%
01:20 Cotulla -200%
01:20 Cotulla I guess
01:20 hunterkll :)
01:20 hunterkll so much for adopt unix philosophy
01:20 Cotulla even Windows one
01:20 hunterkll is why i still use unix certified oses
01:20 Cotulla :)
01:20 dan1j3l hmm... zImage does not work with full ram, only Image...
01:21 hunterkll os x leopard and solaris
01:21 Cotulla darwin ^_^
01:21 hunterkll compile and run
01:21 ali1234 dcordes: try eg: git log v2.6.31 v2.6.32 -- power_supply_class.txt
01:21 hunterkll even deploy to irix
01:21 ali1234 then check what changed in those commits
01:21 hunterkll same code
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01:21 ali1234 probably upgrading the gnome applet would fix it
01:21 hunterkll sus v3 compat
01:21 dcordes ali1234: I have a rootfs with latest ubuntu ready. I will give that a go
01:22 ali1234 latest latest might be too new :)
01:22 ali1234 probably will be better with new gnome/old kernel than the other way around though
01:23 dan1j3l time to go, nn
01:23 dcordes ok so we know it's not the driver to blame
01:23 dcordes that was the most important thing to sort
01:23 Cotulla yeah :D\
01:23 dcordes ali1234: thanks for the advise I will let you know if the new gnome version solves it
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01:23 dcordes Cotulla: did you try usb host in 08/03/2010 ?
01:24 Cotulla no...
01:24 Cotulla I don't use USB host at all, it's useless for android
01:24 dcordes lol
01:24 dcordes I see
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01:24 gauner1986 hey.. you can use a keyboard even in android
01:24 gauner1986 :D
01:25 dcordes Cotulla: how come you write a wince usb host driver ?
01:25 Cotulla my target to make high quality port of android to LEO
01:25 DomZ yeah :p
01:25 ali1234 dcordes: are you using that ubuntu-arm rootfs builder script or something else?
01:25 Cotulla just made it...
01:25 dcordes ali1234: yes 'rootstock'
01:26 ali1234 ah. are they still shipping installer images? cos i had almost perfect results with those on wizard... it's just the regular textmode debian installer
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01:26 dcordes Cotulla: I think it might usbhost breakage might be related to the battery driver
01:26 Cotulla to power driver maybe
01:27 Cotulla battery can't be related
01:27 dcordes ok
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01:27 dcordes call sequence: notify_vbus_change_intr -> vbus_work_func -> msm_hsusb_set_vbus_state -> USB -> notify_usb_connected
01:27 Cotulla yes
01:28 dcordes Cotulla: in the previous kernel usbhost only worked when leo was in charge mode in wince during linux boot
01:28 ali1234 ah "rootstock" is the cleaned up version of what used to be "that random script from ubuntu-wiki" - nice
01:28 Cotulla hm
01:29 dcordes Cotulla: so the initial usb state was good
01:30 Cotulla maybe PHY power...
01:30 Cotulla wait\
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01:31 Cotulla usb host cable have power?
01:31 Cotulla ur one
01:31 dcordes Cotulla: on a side note: it also worked when in wince "When phone is on, do not charge the battery when connected to a PC" was set.
01:32 dcordes Cotulla: yes. when I connect usb host cable, leo charges. in wince and in linux. it is known working hardwarer setup, that made usbhost work in previous kernel.
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01:32 Cotulla u got new vbus = 1
01:32 Cotulla ?
01:32 dcordes let me check
01:32 dcordes booting..
01:33 Cotulla anywait power driver related to udc driver
01:33 maricsmith cotulla, whats your latest kernel build #?
01:33 Cotulla *way
01:33 gauner1986 cotulla: i wonder if that android interface is even compatible with setting the lights on our device.. it seems like android wants to do all the light control itself instead of having microp doing it
01:33 Cotulla gauner1986, wait
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01:34 Cotulla there set_light_notifications
01:34 Cotulla set_light_battery
01:34 Cotulla right?
01:34 dcordes maricsmith: http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/zImage-htcleo-latest
01:35 dcordes maricsmith: assuming you ask for htc leo kernel build.
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01:35 maricsmith yup, sorry i forgot this channel wasn't device specific
01:35 Cotulla maricsmith, I continue developing, I already make several things after tree release
01:36 dcordes maricsmith: don't worry. I guess like 1/3 of the people hanging here are all about leo
01:36 gauner1986 cotulla: yeah.. i see those methods
01:36 maricsmith i figured as much i was just tryng to get an idea of where build # 103 fits in.
01:37 dcordes maricsmith: # 103 ?!
01:37 dcordes maricsmith: where you get this number from
01:37 gauner1986 cotulla: if you look at lights.h you see that led control is done by android in this interface
01:37 maricsmith http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740963
01:38 maricsmith i really like this rom so far. Just needs to add 388 ram support and it would really be flying.
01:39 maricsmith anyway i was gonna try my hand at updating that and figured i'd also add the latest cotulla kernel just for fun.
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01:40 Cotulla gauner1986, hm
01:40 Cotulla where light.h?
01:40 gauner1986 http://source.android.com/porting/lights.html
01:41 fakker àâäàëîâïëûïøòôé
01:41 dcordes maricsmith: the amount of random android builds for htc leo makes me vomit
01:41 dcordes maricsmith: 1337war3z binary passing
01:41 ali1234 +1
01:42 maricsmith dcordes, it does make it kidna hard to keep up given the pace that everyone is moving along. also the love hate relation ship people have with sense doesn't help.
01:42 Cotulla fakker, âòô?\
01:42 Cotulla gauner1986, didn't find anything there
01:42 gauner1986 http://source.android.com/porting/lights_8h-source.html
01:42 Cotulla if it want to control leds
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01:43 Cotulla make fake leds for it
01:43 Cotulla and map via priority
01:43 fakker Cotulla, ? :D
01:44 Cotulla fakker àâäàëîâïëûïøòôé, ? :D
01:44 fakker i dont know
01:44 fakker i hopeyou translate
01:44 gauner1986 :D
01:44 Cotulla lol
01:44 gauner1986 only cryptic signs :P
01:44 Cotulla the end seems funny
01:45 fakker what is it
01:45 gauner1986 cotulla: what do you mean with "map via priority"?
01:45 Cotulla notification led have highest priority
01:45 Cotulla then battery
01:45 Cotulla and etc
01:46 gauner1986 ok
01:46 Cotulla I think this is good map
01:46 Cotulla 1) overcharge (dual blink)
01:46 Cotulla 2) attention (green blink 1)
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01:46 Cotulla 3)notification (green blink 2)
01:47 Cotulla 4)battery (green / amber full ) ?????
01:47 Cotulla and low power (amber blink)
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01:47 gauner1986 okay
01:47 NeoFlux Cotulla: Do you think, if the phone is plugged in and charged and the green light stays on, that you can make it blink if you get a notification anywyas?
01:48 NeoFlux I hate how it stays on and you don't know if there is a notification or not :(
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01:48 gauner1986 so i guess.. every state of the control device would become a fake-led
01:48 gauner1986 hi netripper
01:48 Cotulla gauner1986, but there also other problem
01:48 Cotulla how it show charging/fullcharge battery?
01:48 Cotulla it pass different color"
01:48 Cotulla ?
01:49 Cotulla O_o
01:50 gauner1986 hm.. seems like it
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01:50 dcordes maricsmith: the problem is not making process but the fact that every idiot wants to distribute their own 'build'. nobody compiles the kernel or userspace(android)
01:51 dcordes s/process/progress/
01:51 apt dcordes meant: maricsmith: the problem is not making progress but the fact that every idiot wants to distribute their own 'build'. nobody compiles the kernel or userspace(android)
01:51 Cotulla shootgun to kill android devs
01:51 gauner1986 from lights.h - If you can only do on or off, 0 is off, anything else is on.
01:51 Cotulla hm
01:51 gauner1986 they write everything about led state in the color field
01:51 dcordes maricsmith: an endless loop of reincluding old bugs. it's not progressing
01:51 Cotulla gauner1986, output states to log
01:52 Cotulla and make how logs say?
01:52 Cotulla dcordes, and which is ur suggestion?
01:52 gauner1986 hm.. yeah
01:52 Cotulla make every kernel/build locked?
01:52 dcordes Cotulla: motivate people to compile their own kernel and android.
01:52 dcordes Cotulla: and include documentation
01:52 Cotulla most can't do it
01:53 dcordes Cotulla: then they should consider letting other people do it
01:53 ali1234 the only way to stop it is provide something better
01:53 dcordes ali1234: an android autobuilder
01:53 ali1234 right
01:54 ali1234 turning on /proc/config might be an idea too, if you aren't
01:54 Cotulla maybe add to each kernel message about authors?
01:54 ali1234 you'd at least know what commit they used
01:54 Cotulla also in builds...
01:54 gauner1986 this is also funny.. If you can only do a brightness ramp, then use this formula: unsigned char brightness = ((77*((color>>16)&0x00ff)) + (150*((color>>8)&0x00ff)) + (29*(color&0x00ff))) >> 8;
01:54 ali1234 Cotulla: /proc/config does this since it lists the git version and full .config inside the kernel binary
01:54 Cotulla yes :D
01:54 dcordes ali1234: I didn't know it can be used to see commit. I will enable it
01:54 ali1234 assuming people don't turn it off...
01:55 Cotulla ali1234, this isn't userfriendly
01:55 ali1234 does it have to be?
01:55 Cotulla big message at boot for 5 secs - it's userfriendly
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01:55 ali1234 you won't care about specific kernel version if you're not a developer
01:56 Cotulla hm maybe
01:56 Cotulla but it may give different set of features...
01:56 Cotulla for end user
01:56 ali1234 i suppose. can't hurt to turn it on by default anyway
01:57 ali1234 except the extra memory usage (it's just the gzipped .config)
01:57 Cotulla anyway XDA users think in same way like before
01:57 Cotulla before - it's WM world
01:57 dcordes Cotulla: yes that is the whole problem about it
01:57 dcordes Cotulla: the warez mentality caused by wince history
01:57 Cotulla where almost everyone grab anything for ROM from other ROMS and don't put any credits
01:58 dcordes it's not xda, google or android to blame but m$
01:58 ali1234 not much point spending effort fighting it. if you can find a way to harness it though...
01:58 Cotulla anyway, ppl will continue without some big efforts
01:58 ali1234 it might be as simple as writing a guide. "if you;re going to do a build, this is what you should put in the readme ..."
01:59 ali1234 they will listen. they practically worship you guys :)
01:59 Cotulla and who will read this guide?
02:00 Cotulla only one big effort possible == all real developers should heavy protect there creatures...
02:00 Cotulla but ofcourse I guess it's not possible for android
02:00 gauner1986 android has a poor copy protection system
02:01 Cotulla noone stops to make better
02:01 Cotulla two presses of my hand
02:01 gauner1986 just grab an apk from another phone's /data/app/ dir and you're done
02:01 ali1234 even warez has The Standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_(warez)
02:01 Cotulla and I can got new EXT2 filesystem which protects files
02:02 Cotulla also set right rights/owners
02:02 Cotulla so it will be impossible to grab any files from it
02:02 ali1234 heh, good luck with that...
02:02 gauner1986 hm
02:02 Cotulla it's my suggestions for dcordes
02:03 gauner1986 if the phone is rooted that won't help i guess
02:03 Cotulla I plan to make my build totally free
02:03 gauner1986 developers become even bigger heroes if they provide there things free it seems :P
02:04 Cotulla no, because I have other targets
02:04 Cotulla I guess I won't update it in feature, so better to provide it as open
02:04 Cotulla *future
02:05 gauner1986 hm.. yeah. but that won't be necessary mostly i guess if all things are done
02:05 Cotulla it's not possible to fix dcordes's problem by only words in forum IMHO.
02:06 Cotulla gauner1986, how lights?
02:06 Cotulla I suggest to u make logs
02:06 Cotulla and write code
02:06 ali1234 it won't ever be possible to fix it completely
02:06 Cotulla yes won't be fix it completely
02:07 ali1234 i mean look at the proliferation of ubuntu clones that are just a rootfs image built from ubuntu packages, with slightly edited config files and a new theme
02:07 Cotulla and is it bad?
02:07 gauner1986 cotulla: i'm on it.. i'll write a lib that just logs now for the first part
02:07 Cotulla GPL allow it, right?
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02:07 ali1234 yes it's bad... first time you try to upgrade they normally fall over
02:08 ali1234 you are dependent on the one guy who made it for support
02:08 ali1234 but few people use them because there are better alternatives
02:09 ali1234 they are skirting the GPL because they just install ubuntu, change the theme, then distribute a copy of their rootfs
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02:09 ali1234 this is a really crappy way to do it, and people have mostly stopped because there is now a better way to do it
02:10 gauner1986 btw.. where does the LOGV function write to?
02:10 ali1234 a lot of people made these things back when netbooks first came out
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02:10 Cotulla shit back
02:11 gauner1986 cotulla: where does the LOGV function write to.. do you know?
02:11 Cotulla adb logcat
02:11 gauner1986 ok
02:11 Cotulla ali1234, so actually it's common GPL problem
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02:12 dcordes ali1234: problem is I can hardly add the hd2 specific programs upstream in ubuntu now that canonical has contracts with some ARM hardware manufacturers
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02:12 dcordes ali1234: they will tell you 'sorry, qualcomm platform is not officially supported'
02:12 ali1234 why do you need hw specific binaries?
02:12 dcordes ali1234: I don't
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02:13 ali1234 so what's the problem?
02:13 dcordes about providing ready to go rootfs ?
02:13 drellisdee its there any easy way to determine a devices kernel base address?
02:13 ali1234 if they are GPL you can go right around ubuntu and put them in debian
02:13 dcordes true
02:13 ali1234 dcordes: the problem isn;t about providing a rootfs, the problem is with how you build it
02:14 ali1234 not how *you* specifically build
02:14 ali1234 but how "one" builds it
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02:14 dcordes ali1234: the ubuntu.zip I provide doesn't have any extra binaries. it is about configuration and bash scripts.
02:14 dcordes ali1234: I could create a script ot install it all
02:14 dcordes ali1234: it's a good idea
02:14 Cotulla what about making money on GPL code?
02:14 Cotulla big money?
02:14 ali1234 dcordes: so all what you need to do is make a deb out of all your scripts, then provide a modified rootstock that pulls that deb from your repo along with all the normal stuff
02:15 ali1234 dcordes: then anyone is free to modify it how they like
02:15 dcordes that would be awesome
02:15 ali1234 making a deb repo is pretty easy, actually packaging up a deb is slightly harder in fact
02:15 dcordes one major problem I have to work around is that non root users can't use network
02:15 ali1234 that's a little bit odd
02:15 dcordes I will look into that
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02:16 dcordes ali1234: it is in all ubuntu rootfs I tried
02:16 ali1234 for what reason doesn't it work?
02:16 dcordes ali1234: and I suspect it is kernel related
02:16 darkstone [00:51:03] <dcordes> maricsmith: the problem is not making process but the fact that every idiot wants to distribute their own 'build'. nobody compiles the kernel or userspace(android)
02:16 darkstone I don't appreciate being called an 'idiot'. I compile my own kernels, but there is no point including them since updates aren't updated on GIT until a long time later.
02:16 dcordes ali1234: I have no clue really..
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02:17 darkstone How can I use the latest changes if it's not available to build?
02:17 ali1234 darkstone: but you actually hang around here and contribute. a lot of people don't, then their users show up here and expect support
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02:17 Cotulla anyway I think if this problem will be fixed on XDA, ppl start to release builds on other sites...
02:17 ali1234 and everyone is like "sorry we never even heard of that build :("
02:18 darkstone I'd actually like dcordes to answer, he seems to have an icy attitude
02:18 Cotulla so words on XDA is useless
02:18 dcordes darkstone: if you understand yourself as the attorney of the android rom cooking lobby you should try to address these problems instead of trying to start a fight
02:18 darkstone attorney of android rom cooking? i did not appoint myself for this position.
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02:19 dcordes darkstone: you said you were called idiot.
02:19 darkstone <dcordes> maricsmith: the problem is not making process but the fact that every idiot wants to distribute their own 'build'. nobody compiles the kernel or userspace(android)
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02:19 darkstone not sure if you meant this in another context
02:20 darkstone or if i misunderstoof
02:20 darkstone understood*
02:20 stelleg anyone have linky to miri 2.10 base?
02:20 darkstone i'll make it clear, i have no problems adhering to standards, let me know what needs changing and i'll be happy to oblige
02:20 dcordes darkstone: I did not say darkstone is an idiot and I did not say everybody who releases an 'android build' is an idiot.
02:20 stelleg seems like all I can find is newest 2.13 base
02:21 dcordes darkstone: but obviously you still feel called upon.
02:21 Cotulla it's common open source problems, why we should discuss it in android context?
02:21 dcordes darkstone: either way I don't want to get pulled in this discussion
02:21 ali1234 darkstone raises an interesting point. who is putting out binary kernels without a matching git commit somewhere public?
02:22 darkstone fair enough, im not looking for a fight, im just looking for a way for not to see the things i do being frowned upon
02:23 Cotulla ali1234, me
02:23 dcordes darkstone: so you do feel like representing the android cooking crowd.
02:24 darkstone seems so
02:25 dcordes darkstone: I have seen you compiling your own kernel. it is a good step
02:25 darkstone i apologize for attacking you like that, was a natural instinct to defend the stuff that i distribute
02:25 ali1234 Cotulla: why do it?
02:25 Cotulla dcordes, why u don't want to blame with HTC about closed libhtc_ril? why u start to blame ppl who do at least something?
02:26 darkstone i'll return to studying, back later
02:26 Cotulla ali1234, it's easy for me do developing so.
02:26 Cotulla more effectively
02:27 dcordes and it is also effectively contributing to the problematic situation we discuss
02:27 gauner1986 cotulla: we could also create a repo for you, where you could just commit your stuff without caring about other stuff
02:27 Cotulla anyway htc delay releases a lot, isn't it?
02:27 gauner1986 which would allow us to integrate your changes into public git on time
02:27 Cotulla go and blame about it with them...
02:28 gauner1986 let's see how to get that liblights to compile... ^^
02:28 ali1234 might be an idea to have a nightly build of the "official" linuxtogo repo? people would use it cos they'd think it was "newer" - instead of an untested and not-for-wide-reelase development kernel binary they found somewhere
02:29 ali1234 i'm just trying to come up with constructive suggestions here :)
02:29 dcordes ali1234: http://oe.netripper.com/files/htcleo_autobuild/
02:29 gauner1986 that's what people won't use if they know that cotulla has some more recent and sexy changes in his current kernel
02:29 ali1234 dcordes: hmm ok, so a) turn on /proc/config and b) make sure people know you'd prefer them to use that (and document what they use)
02:30 dcordes ali1234: the problem is what you see above. cotulla is making most of the essential progress on the leo - but with delayed release of sources.
02:30 dcordes ali1234: no autobuild will help,.
02:30 ali1234 and under NO circumstances give support to people who use anything else :)
02:30 gauner1986 dcordes: wouldn't you also think a separate repo could be a solution?
02:30 dcordes ali1234: in case of the zImage people use it will show some commit from begin of july
02:31 gauner1986 i suggested it some time ago
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02:31 Cotulla but they want to support a bunch of shit
02:32 Cotulla tell me what is "board-halibut.c "?
02:32 dcordes ali1234: I don't do that (support any binary release)
02:32 dcordes Cotulla: halibut is 7k evaulation board
02:32 ali1234 dcordes: but you could make it policy that nobody here should
02:32 Cotulla and WTF it should be there, with only one HTC 8K device with WM>
02:32 Cotulla ?
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02:34 stelleg Cotulla: is there anything you'd like help developing/hacking?
02:34 dcordes ali1234: I think it's pretty obvious that this project is not about passing around binary kernel images
02:34 Cotulla help?
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02:34 Cotulla u can check and fix time
02:34 dcordes Cotulla: I don't get the question
02:35 Cotulla u can finish lsensor
02:35 stelleg time is broken?
02:35 dcordes stelleg: yes RTC would be nice
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02:35 gauner1986 lightsensor
02:35 gauner1986 yeah
02:35 gauner1986 that would be neat
02:35 stelleg yeah alright
02:35 stelleg yeah that would be good
02:35 stelleg any info on it?
02:35 dcordes ali1234: it woukd be good to have XDA draw attention on the matter.
02:35 stelleg gpio pins?
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02:36 Cotulla dcordes, I ask to u several questions, but u ignore them. nice!
02:36 gauner1986 there's some half-code in git @ stelleg
02:36 gauner1986 that's all we have atm i guess
02:36 stelleg alright
02:36 dcordes ali1234: but I do not see their interest. less warez = less traffic = less ad money
02:36 Cotulla gauner1986, there nothing however
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02:36 dcordes Cotulla: relax. what did I ignore ?
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02:37 Cotulla why u don't want to blame with HTC about libril_htc? but start blame of XDA users? I guess blame with HTC is more useful, isn't it?
02:38 dcordes Cotulla: ah yes I am an evil bastard getting down bad on xda users... right#
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02:38 ali1234 i assume there are not 101 different libril_htc versions floating around causing confusion?
02:39 ali1234 it can be considered to be like a binary blob like any other
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02:39 dcordes Cotulla: I am with ali. I don't see a problem with that
02:39 Cotulla maybe my words not very right, because I dunno how to say... "attack xda users" maybe more right... anyway I am sure u understand that I mean.
02:39 dcordes Cotulla: and I do not see how this relates to binary kernel distribution
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02:40 dcordes also regarding phone API I think it is a legal question
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02:41 Cotulla and how binary kernel distribution related to my question?
02:42 dcordes Cotulla: we were discussing the binary only kernel thing and it seemed you mentioned ril in that context-
02:42 Cotulla yes
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02:42 Cotulla wait... we start to discuss here about "wrong android builders behaviour"
02:42 dcordes yes
02:43 dcordes one problem is the binary kernels included
02:43 dcordes with no source made available
02:43 Cotulla ok, if I include binary static library under Apache license, u will be more happy?
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02:44 dcordes Cotulla: why do you see the need to measure with HTC / google behaviour ?
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02:44 stinebd this seems like a simple licensing violation
02:44 stinebd nothing more
02:44 Cotulla no, GPL is compatible with Apache
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02:45 stinebd huh?
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02:45 Cotulla is it?
02:45 stinebd if we're talking about the kernel, apache license has no relevance anyway
02:46 dcordes Cotulla: I do not understand you. are you justifying binary kernel release with the fact that htc ril is closed ?
02:46 Cotulla no
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02:46 stinebd if you modify the linux kernel and distribute binaries, you *must* make the modified source code available upon request
02:46 Cotulla I just ask why u don't want to put ur energy for rebuilding xda to HTC?
02:46 Cotulla is it will be more useful for all htc-linux community?
02:47 dcordes Cotulla: can you restate? what do you mean rebuilding xda to htc ?
02:47 Cotulla yes, my english bad :(
02:48 dcordes I really didn't understand it sorry
02:48 ali1234 dcordes: he means that you should ask htc to be more open instead of asking xda users ... i think
02:48 dcordes that would possibly the best way to address the problem
02:48 Cotulla rebuilding xda - add some rules for releasing android builds. even it's clear that it's impossible by words do so,something. even if it possible on xda, ppl will go to other forums.
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02:49 dcordes To have XDA monitor and forbid GPL violations.
02:49 Cotulla maybe just put messages to such services?
02:49 ali1234 i agree rules would be asking too much
02:49 stinebd why not just make the source code available?
02:49 dcordes Cotulla: I made an approach like that
02:49 Cotulla to htc - put all energy to htc, so we get more
02:50 Cotulla and able to get high quality android / linux on our devices
02:50 dcordes ali1234: yes it's not going to happen
02:50 ali1234 but is it so hard to ask people, if they are going to build a rom, at least mark it with which versions they used?
02:50 stinebd htc doesn't really have anything to do with it since their stuff isn't gpl licensed anyway
02:50 Cotulla people even can't read HSPL installation
02:50 Cotulla what about android rules?
02:50 ali1234 you have to credit rom cookers with at least slightly more intelligence than the people who use the product :)
02:51 Cotulla stinebd, it's not problem. I released my tree some days ago.
02:51 dcordes Cotulla: what about the developers serve as a role model for 'cooks'
02:51 stinebd then what's the gpl violation we're arguing about?
02:51 Cass what is the problem ?
02:51 Cass confused ..
02:51 dcordes Cotulla: but before it was a problem
02:51 ali1234 stinebd: when people grab a binary kernel and another android rom, uunpack it, change some things, then post it on xda
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02:52 Cotulla dcordes, I usually protects WM roms with heavy algos
02:52 stinebd changing binary kernels?
02:52 Cotulla it's save it from stealing any features
02:52 dcordes Cotulla: and I see zImage-new-feature-without-source happening again
02:52 ali1234 stinebd: without even saying *which* versions they used
02:52 Cotulla it's only one possible way to stop this behaviour
02:52 dcordes Cotulla: well yes but this is not WM roms.
02:52 Cotulla yes.
02:52 ali1234 stinebd: no, changing the android rootfs a bit eg add or remove sense. i guess that's the kind of thing they do... i dunno... i never used that stuff
02:52 gauner1986 cotulla: you made wm roms? ^^
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02:53 Cotulla a lot of
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02:53 stinebd hah, well. those are general license/copyright violations, not really source violations
02:53 Cotulla dcordes, I didn't release any zImage after tree release
02:53 dcordes Cotulla: yes a good thing
02:54 gauner1986 actually it would be nice to see cotulla releasing patches :)
02:54 Cotulla because it's useful
02:54 dcordes Cotulla: in an ideal world you get your own ssh access to git repository
02:54 Cotulla no testers, no good feedback
02:54 dcordes Cotulla: and use it
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02:54 stinebd the beauty of git is you can start your own
02:55 stinebd branch away and break things at will
02:55 Cass tbh i dont see the issue with Cotulla developing how he likes, then releasing a patch when he is happy ... apart from the work the integrator has to do ... i dont see how a diff git repo would resolve this
02:55 Cotulla dcordes, yes asked u some time ago, but u say that all should be in htc-msm-2.6.32
02:55 Cotulla btw results is it still broken?
02:56 dcordes Cotulla: yep but I didn't say you shouldn't do what stinebd said
02:56 dcordes Cotulla: create your own repo
02:56 Cotulla I just don't understand how I can make changes in common, I need rebuilt it for other devs everytime?
02:56 Cotulla and then find somebody with such devs and test it?
02:56 dcordes Cotulla: now it's not a topic any longer
02:56 gauner1986 yeah cotulla should have his own repo :)
02:56 dcordes Cotulla: htc-msm-2.6.32 is leo only
02:57 Cass Cotulla : should do wtf he likes gauner1986 :)
02:57 Cotulla but it was not
02:57 gauner1986 hey cass :P
02:57 Cass hey :)
02:57 ali1234 why do you even have branches for each board type?
02:57 ali1234 or repos?
02:57 Cotulla not for each
02:57 Cotulla but for common groups
02:57 dcordes Cotulla: a lot was hardcoded with the first merge of your local code. I think since then it's pointless to try compiling e.g. for mahimahi
02:57 ali1234 ok, but nobody is merging that stuff into one tree?
02:57 Cotulla tell me, what is common in board-halibut.c and in LEO?
02:58 Cotulla it can be devided to groups
02:58 dcordes Cotulla: not muchj halibut is 7k leo is 8k
02:58 ali1234 what is common between x86 and ARM? yet mainline supports them both and many more
02:58 dcordes ali1234: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.32
02:58 Cotulla HTC 7200 WM devs, HTC 7200 Android devs, HTC 7200A WM devs, HTC 7200A Android devs, HTC 8650 WM devs, HTC 8650 Android devs
02:59 Cotulla it's logical groups, isn't it?
02:59 ali1234 not really, in my opinion
02:59 Cotulla why?
02:59 gauner1986 ah
02:59 gauner1986 finally got that liblights to compile
02:59 ali1234 there is only reason to split it on hardware type, not original OS
02:59 gauner1986 fucking android buildsys
02:59 Cotulla even drivers can be common, they not depended on dev type usually
02:59 dcordes Cotulla: so if we create a clone htc-msm-2.6.32-cotulla would you be interested in using it ?
03:00 Cotulla ali1234, different OSes have different memory layout and AMSS
03:00 Cotulla so it can be looked like different HW
03:00 Cotulla because some memory are already busy, some "emulated HW access" done different
03:01 ali1234 AMSS is just a firmware though right? so why not just pick either WM or android amss and use it on all hardware of that type?
03:01 Cotulla but u can't change it
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03:01 ali1234 hmm. that sucks
03:01 Cotulla "emualted HW access" - I means under this services from AMSS
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03:01 ali1234 you can't change it, or you just don't know how to change it?
03:01 Cotulla which kernel use it almost as HW
03:02 ali1234 i doubt it is embedded permanently into the soc
03:02 dcordes ali1234: qualcomm AMSS is more than a modem firmware.
03:02 Cotulla ali1234, I know how to change it.
03:02 Cotulla but other seems don't know and even if know, can't do it
03:02 Cotulla anyway it's just risky
03:02 Cotulla u can kill dev
03:03 ali1234 so you can't reset and reload another firmware at runtime?
03:03 Cotulla no
03:03 dcordes b
03:03 ali1234 i'm glad i don't dev for qualcomm chips :/
03:03 Cotulla it's not OMAP850
03:03 dcordes Cotulla: it provides half the hardware ..
03:03 Cotulla OMAP850 have two CPUs which are separately
03:03 dcordes ali1234:
03:04 Cotulla while MSM is dual core CPU
03:04 ali1234 what's the difference?
03:04 Cotulla there seems DSP between two CPUs
03:04 Cotulla in OMAP850
03:05 Cotulla difference big ofcourse
03:05 dcordes that AMSS is not just the firmware but is the 'OS' of the radio core
03:05 ali1234 the same is true on OMAP850
03:05 Cotulla no
03:05 Cotulla I tell u how OMAP850 working
03:05 ali1234 go ahead :)
03:05 Cotulla can u access on OMAP850 from ARM7 USB regs?
03:05 Cotulla no
03:05 Cotulla on MSM u can.
03:05 dcordes where is the old msm7200 qualcomm marketing PDF ?
03:05 Cotulla all memory is shared
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03:05 Cotulla devices is shared
03:06 ali1234 actually you could if you remapped them with the MMU
03:06 Cotulla "if u remapped"
03:06 dcordes ali1234: http://www.ent.eet-china.com/PDF/2007FEB/DTCOL_2007FEB15_AVDE_RFR_AN_01.pdf page 4
03:06 Cotulla means u need config access from ARM9, right?
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03:06 ali1234 right
03:06 Cotulla in MSM all common, memory etc
03:07 Cotulla ofcourse mARM can protect parts
03:07 Cotulla from aARM access
03:07 dcordes ali1234: hm it doesn't really explain the dual core concept. forget about it
03:07 dcordes 'Modem MICRO ARM926
03:07 dcordes '
03:07 Cotulla and?
03:07 gauner1986 cotulla: why are they splitting things up on arm9/arm11 ?
03:08 Cotulla to make secure and support more platforms
03:08 gauner1986 hm
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03:08 gauner1986 *currently checking liblights output*
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03:09 ali1234 wait
03:09 Cotulla dcordes, pdf briefs is useless
03:09 ali1234 "means u need config access from ARM9, right?" what does that mean?
03:09 Cotulla u need setup memory window and etc
03:09 Cotulla ?
03:10 ali1234 on omap850 arm9 is the app process
03:10 ali1234 or
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03:10 Cotulla yes, I know it.
03:10 dcordes Cotulla: yes I noticed it. I thought the diagram would expose the real division of a9 and a11 work
03:10 ali1234 ok. so the arm9 has access to everything but the radio frontend on omap
03:11 Cotulla yes
03:11 ali1234 the radio firmware runs on the arm7
03:11 Cotulla yes
03:11 ali1234 the arm9 can reset the arm7 at any time and load a new firmware
03:11 gauner1986 cotulla: i don't see any output from my lib on logcat
03:12 Cotulla in MSM marm still primary and aarm slave
03:12 Cotulla but they use common busses
03:12 Cotulla they can access common regs
03:12 Cotulla marm have additional radio regs
03:12 Cotulla they seems share interrupts
03:12 Cotulla gauner1986, why?
03:12 ali1234 same is true of omap850 for a subset of registers, memory, and interrupts
03:13 Cotulla interrupts shared?
03:13 Cotulla u can get USB intr on both 7/9?
03:13 ali1234 hmm no
03:14 gauner1986 cotulla: hm.. dunno. -> this is my src. i just put some LOGV's to the functions
03:14 gauner1986 http://pastebin.com/0zCUB7CE
03:14 ali1234 but either core can raise an interrupt on the other
03:14 Cotulla gauner1986, is it loaded?
03:14 gauner1986 cotulla: hm.. if setting lcd-backlight works it should be.. shouldn't it?
03:14 ali1234 so, when you turn on an MSM, the modem core is the first thing that runs, and it loads the OS to the apps core?
03:14 Cotulla yes should
03:14 Cotulla but this isn't true dual core, also it's connected via something... which remap memory, right?
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03:15 ali1234 hmm yeah
03:15 Cotulla adb logcat *:V
03:15 dcordes Cotulla: how much mem does a9 claim in qsd8250 ?
03:15 Cotulla try this?
03:16 Cotulla about 35 mb
03:16 dcordes and the dsp mem goes extra ?
03:16 Cotulla yes
03:17 Cotulla gauner1986, any luck?
03:17 gauner1986 cotulla: not with your command
03:17 gauner1986 hm
03:17 gauner1986 can i somehow get the full log of logcat?
03:18 Cotulla set_light_backlight color=
03:18 Cotulla u got this?
03:18 gauner1986 hm.. when i go to android settings and change it manually it should appear?
03:19 Cotulla I think yes
03:19 gauner1986 it doesn't
03:19 Cotulla http://developer.android.com/intl/de/guide/developing/tools/adb.html
03:19 Cotulla Filtering Log Output
03:19 dcordes gauner1986: which android source code are you using ?
03:20 gauner1986 dcordes: i used this guide to set up my devroot http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709105
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03:21 dcordes gauner1986: ah I have seen this guide
03:22 dcordes gauner1986: I am asking because I plan an autobuild system with a unified codebase everybody can use
03:23 Rafyvitto Hey guys =]
03:23 dcordes gauner1986: maybe aosp desire will be the best base
03:23 Rafyvitto hows everyone
03:23 gauner1986 dcordes: okay.. sounds nice.
03:23 gauner1986 the problem is
03:24 gauner1986 adb logcat V prints every message
03:24 Cotulla dcordes, all this shit (google, codeaurora). actually seems only HTC sources can be reused normally.
03:24 gauner1986 including the other priorities
03:24 dcordes Cotulla: htc android sources ?
03:24 Cotulla yes
03:24 Cotulla which released on site
03:24 dcordes developer.htc.com ?
03:24 Cotulla yes something like this
03:25 dcordes we could use that for autobuild as well ..
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03:25 Cotulla u may say that it's again bullshit, but I tell it, looking to my leo kernel developing experience.
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03:26 Cotulla a lot of problems came because android-msm-2.6.32 was used as base
03:26 dcordes Cotulla: I only see kernel, bluez, webkit source code on http://developer.htc.com/ . it has this link http://developer.android.com/index.html for android source code.
03:26 Cotulla I about bravo kernel
03:26 Cotulla evo kernel
03:26 Cotulla and etc
03:27 dcordes ok I am about android source code to use as a base for leo android autobuild
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03:27 Cotulla it's also not clear...
03:27 Cotulla ppl start to make 22 even we have not finished 21
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03:27 Cotulla yes, 22 is faster
03:28 dcordes android version ?
03:28 Cotulla yes
03:28 Cotulla but that they want - faster and buggy or slight slow and stable
03:28 Cotulla ?
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03:28 dcordes they want it all shiny with lots of eyecandy and bling bling and super fast
03:29 Cotulla :D
03:29 dcordes with 1GB mem patch
03:29 dcordes .bin
03:29 Cotulla anyway android cookers won't listen
03:29 gauner1986 :D
03:29 Rafyvitto and a perfectly stable android nand flash
03:30 Rafyvitto that can be at the same time be dual booted along side wp7
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03:30 Cotulla it won't be dual booted with wp7
03:30 Rafyvitto i know
03:30 dcordes Cotulla: but there is jtag now :x
03:30 gauner1986 cotulla: i got the whole log if logcat and there's nothing about lights
03:30 Rafyvitto im just reffering to retarded nabs on xda
03:30 Cotulla jtag?
03:31 gauner1986 s/if/of/
03:31 apt gauner1986 meant: cotulla: i got the whole log of logcat and there's nothing about lights
03:31 Cotulla gauner1986, even backlight
03:31 Cotulla ?
03:31 dcordes Cotulla: gnarf ?
03:31 gauner1986 cotulla: yeah.. nothing about backlight
03:31 Cotulla how many users are familiar with jtag?
03:32 ali1234 me
03:32 Cotulla ok, on xda
03:32 ali1234 wait, i'm not a user
03:32 gauner1986 jtag sucks.. because you have to solder.. open your device
03:32 gauner1986 :P
03:32 ali1234 Cotulla: do you know any (free) jtag software that supports omap850?
03:32 Cotulla OpenCOD?
03:32 Cotulla or how it called?
03:32 dcordes Cotulla: I don't really see how jtag will enable wp7 on leo
03:32 Cotulla right.
03:33 Cotulla anyway, 448 is rather small.
03:33 stelleg wp7?
03:33 ali1234 openocd... yeah it has generic arm support... never could figure out how to define new procs though... actually support for the NAND chip would be more important
03:33 dcordes stelleg: the new wince version
03:33 gauner1986 dcordes: jtag is just the way to reflash things if something goes wrong in that case, isn't it?
03:33 stelleg what is wince?
03:33 gauner1986 lol
03:33 Cotulla ali1234, can't answer to u... because I have not JTAG experience\
03:33 stelleg <--noob'
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03:33 dcordes ~wince
03:33 apt methinks wince is short for WinCE, but yes it does hurt.
03:34 [Hauk] wp7 = windows phone 7
03:34 stelleg gotcha
03:34 gauner1986 cotulla: the only thing about lights is : I/SystemServer( 242): Lights Service
03:34 Cotulla hm
03:34 dcordes wrong. wince is short for wINce
03:34 Cotulla maybe put there printf?
03:34 Cotulla :D
03:34 gauner1986 :D
03:35 gauner1986 and how do i read that then?
03:35 gauner1986 ^^
03:35 Cotulla ok
03:35 Cotulla fopen fprintf fclose
03:35 gauner1986 lol
03:35 dcordes is gonna take a nap
03:35 dcordes cya guys
03:35 Cotulla bb
03:35 gauner1986 goodnight
03:35 stelleg adios
03:35 [Hauk] cya
03:37 Cotulla so any luck, gauner1986?
03:37 gauner1986 hm. didn't find anything on logs..
03:37 gauner1986 so i will have to write it to file
03:37 gauner1986 it seems
03:38 gauner1986 i did a reboot first of course..
03:39 Cotulla also funny thing, that ppl don't want work on any boring things... they want to half activate 4D, show it and go out to next item.
03:39 gauner1986 the nature of human beings
03:39 gauner1986 :P
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03:41 gauner1986 hm
03:41 gauner1986 i have to check how to write to file in c again
03:41 gauner1986 :D
03:41 zego gauner1986: try to use LOGD(
03:42 Cotulla or why not to attack qualcomm about "GPL code working with non-compatible license code"
03:42 gauner1986 zego: mhm.. okay
03:43 stelleg is the only closed binary the bcm4329?
03:43 gauner1986 no
03:43 Cotulla it's not closed
03:43 gauner1986 ril is closed
03:43 Cotulla ril akd
03:43 stelleg oh
03:43 Cotulla it's talk about nothing...
03:44 stinebd pretty sure android isn't gpl
03:44 Cotulla but why it's working with GPL code?
03:44 Cotulla and why google make money on gpl code
03:45 stinebd uh, who said you can't make money on gpl code?
03:45 Cotulla and even they stop way to update
03:45 stinebd none of that violates the licenses involved...
03:45 Cotulla so I have GPL code used in product, but I can't modify it, right?
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03:45 Cotulla or it's allowed?
03:45 stinebd i suggest you read the licenses and then comment on them
03:46 stinebd you can modify gpl code all you want, pack it up and sell it even. you just have to provide the modified source code.
03:46 stinebd i can make a kernel tree with a custom version config, stick it on a cd and sell that at a rock concert if i want. as long as there's source code if someone asks for it.
03:47 stinebd also, as long as anyone would buy it. which they wouldn't.
03:47 Cotulla so I can put closed bootloader to nand and protect it from loading any android images except mine?
03:48 stinebd you just went off track with it
03:48 stinebd is the bootloader gpl?
03:48 Cotulla no
03:48 stinebd so what does that have to do with anything then?
03:48 stinebd nothing in the GPL states that you can't run non-GPL software on a system that also runs GPL software
03:48 Cotulla ok nice :)
03:48 Cotulla thank u
03:49 stinebd the GPL states that you can't *link* non-GPL software directly into GPL software without providing the source code for the non-GPL software
03:49 gauner1986 cotulla: lol
03:49 Cotulla what is "link"?
03:49 gauner1986 stinebd: dont give him bad ideas :)
03:49 stinebd you're a developer and you don't know what linking is?
03:49 Cotulla gauner1986, I just ask him to know on future
03:49 Cotulla even to know gpl issues
03:49 stinebd `man ld`
03:50 Cotulla stinebd, is it defined in license
03:50 Cotulla ?
03:50 stinebd go read the gpl.
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03:51 stinebd or think of the classic case of kernel tainting. if you load a binary blob kernel module, you taint the kernel license, thus you no longer receive help from upstream kernel developers when stuff breaks
03:51 noellenchris zego: any update to your cm6? Love it...thanks for sharing
03:51 ali1234 Cotulla: nokia does exactly that with meego. they have a signed closed source bootloader. it will only boot a signed linux kernel from nokia. if the kernel isn't signed, it disables the DRM of the arm chip, and you can't access protected files (bought movies and music)
03:52 ali1234 you can boot your own kernel but you lose some features of the device. and they could at any time remove that function if they wanted
03:52 ali1234 the GPL3 disallows this activity but GPL2 does not
03:52 Cotulla ali1234, thanks, clear
03:52 gauner1986 ah nice
03:52 gauner1986 now it's in log
03:53 ali1234 as such, nokia is very clear they won't use *any* GPL3
03:53 Cotulla hehe
03:53 gauner1986 thank you zego
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03:53 Cotulla anyway I am thinking about big thread on XDA about testing... maybe ppl will undestand
03:53 gauner1986 cotulla: lol.. they even define the backlight as "color" :D
03:53 Cotulla that without testing it won't be stable
03:54 Cotulla maybe we can create dmesg auto collect app
03:54 gauner1986 testing is the essence of development
03:54 gauner1986 :)
03:54 Cotulla which upload crash log to some server
03:54 gauner1986 that's what they tell us at university all the time
03:54 ali1234 well ubuntu has apport for that
03:54 zego <noellenchris> working on it, will release soon
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03:55 ali1234 it works quite well... if you are running ubuntu
03:55 noellenchris sweet!
03:55 Cotulla ali1234, we need for android
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03:55 gauner1986 cotulla: how do i trigger one of the other led-events
03:55 noellenchris how bout log when in wm after reboot. something may exist similar...already
03:55 gauner1986 ?
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03:55 Cotulla wait...
03:55 ali1234 yeah that would be tricky. apport can run without a UI though, and it does handle kernel crashes if you saved dmesg the right way
03:55 Cotulla charge battery
03:56 Cotulla call to phone I guess
03:56 ali1234 probably has a lot of deps though
03:56 Cotulla ask desire owners
03:56 Cotulla so u think it's good idea?
03:57 Cotulla anyway who will code such app
03:57 Cotulla I guess noone
03:57 Cotulla :P
03:57 gauner1986 it's easier to put andlog to autostart in wm
03:57 gauner1986 :P
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03:57 Cotulla but users are lazy to upload it I guess
03:57 ali1234 build a combined android+ubuntu image
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03:58 Cotulla but who knows... at first thread
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03:58 ali1234 ubuntu instead the tiny busybox init that android normally has
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03:58 gauner1986 D/lights ( 242): set_light_attention color=0x00ffffff
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03:58 gauner1986 ah ok
03:59 Cotulla and who say that google have good code / coders / etc?
03:59 gauner1986 but i have to find out about that blinking shit too
03:59 Cotulla gauner1986, it's call?
03:59 gauner1986 cotulla: yes
04:00 Cotulla ok continue
04:00 Cotulla anyway I gotta go
04:00 gauner1986 okay
04:00 gauner1986 goodnight
04:00 gauner1986 i need some sleep too
04:00 gauner1986 will continue tomorrow
04:00 Cotulla hehe
04:00 Cotulla bb
04:01 Cotulla oh twitter
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04:01 gauner1986 what's there to tweet?
04:01 gauner1986 :P
04:03 Cotulla I will write thrre about new zImages
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04:04 gauner1986 cotulla: what do you think about that "your own repository" thing?
04:04 Cotulla sorry too late
04:04 gauner1986 hm?
04:05 Cotulla I guess I will continue develop in my local tree, without releasing any test kernels, when in the September will be big update ;)
04:05 Cotulla I need more rest :)
04:05 Jack-E dcordes will love you -,-
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04:06 gauner1986 :D
04:06 gauner1986 well.. gotta respect that decision
04:06 Jack-E ;)
04:07 gauner1986 so i won't be able to test my own lights lib T_T
04:07 gauner1986 :D
04:07 Jack-E ;P
04:07 Cotulla dunno finish it at least...
04:07 gauner1986 :D
04:07 Cotulla or it will be without lights
04:08 gauner1986 not acceptable xD
04:08 Jack-E gotta have lights
04:08 Cotulla ok drop it
04:09 Cotulla maybe even in sept release a ready nand rom :P
04:09 gauner1986 yay
04:09 gauner1986 :P
04:09 gauner1986 while da_g is working on wp7 flash.. xD
04:10 Jack-E XD
04:10 Cotulla ;)
04:11 gauner1986 http://a.imageshack.us/img529/6615/hd2jtagpinssoldered.jpg
04:11 gauner1986 looks nice
04:11 gauner1986 you need some calm fingers for that
04:11 Cotulla maybe
04:11 Jack-E D:
04:12 gauner1986 poor leo
04:12 maricsmith damn
04:12 Jack-E :'(
04:12 Jack-E lol
04:12 Cotulla lets cry together
04:12 Cotulla :D
04:12 Jack-E :D
04:12 Cotulla :'( :'( :'( :'(
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04:12 gauner1986 apt cry
04:12 apt cries and sobs until she nearly drowns in her own tears.
04:12 Cotulla :'( :( :( :'(
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04:12 Cotulla :'( :'( :'( :'(
04:12 Jack-E :'( :D :'( :D
04:12 gauner1986 wait
04:13 gauner1986 apt consideres itself a she?
04:13 gauner1986 strange world
04:13 gauner1986 :D
04:13 Cotulla :D
04:13 Cotulla apt is she?
04:13 Jack-E lol
04:13 Cotulla apt: is she is yes
04:13 maricsmith whats the process for a jtag "capture
04:13 Cotulla apt is she is yes
04:13 maricsmith is that what you'd call it?
04:13 Cotulla apt is she is yes
04:13 gauner1986 cotulla: thing is explanation :P
04:13 Cotulla apt is she?
04:14 gauner1986 no
04:14 gauner1986 apt me is female
04:14 apt moi?
04:14 gauner1986 :D
04:14 Cotulla apt me is n00b
04:14 apt moi?
04:14 Cotulla apt må is n00b
04:14 apt okay, Cotulla
04:14 gauner1986 :D
04:14 Cotulla apt må
04:14 apt hmm... må is n00b
04:14 Cotulla working
04:15 Cotulla gauner1986, is it ok for u?
04:15 Cotulla u see "me"?
04:15 gauner1986 i see må
04:15 Cotulla :D
04:15 Jack-E wtf
04:15 Cotulla apt me
04:15 apt from memory, cotulla is the HD2's kernel king
04:15 gauner1986 lol
04:15 Cotulla apt må
04:15 apt extra, extra, read all about it, må is n00b
04:15 Cotulla apt fakker
04:16 Jack-E XD
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04:16 Jack-E that could be interesting
04:16 Cotulla apt Cotulla is Cotulla
04:16 apt ...but cotulla is already something else...
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04:16 gauner1986 apt forget cotulla
04:16 apt gauner1986: i forgot cotulla
04:16 Cotulla apt forgot Cotulla
04:16 Cotulla apt Cotulla is Cotulla
04:16 apt Cotulla: okay
04:16 Jack-E apt remove Cotulla
04:17 Cotulla apt die
04:17 apt takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless.
04:17 gauner1986 apt voice
04:17 apt stands back: arrrr barf! barf!
04:17 Cotulla apt u is /me
04:17 apt ...but u is already something else...
04:17 Cotulla apt hey is /me n00b
04:17 apt ...but hey is already something else...
04:17 Jack-E indeed
04:17 Cotulla apt hello is /me n00b
04:17 apt stands up and shouts "HELLO is /me n00b!"
04:17 gauner1986 :D
04:17 Cotulla apt hello
04:17 Jack-E :P
04:17 apt Howdy Bub
04:17 Cass apt apt is apt
04:17 apt ...but apt is already something else...
04:18 Cotulla apt how are u is /me naab
04:18 apt I think you lost me on that one, Cotulla
04:18 Cotulla apt killme is /me shoots
04:18 apt ...but killme is already something else...
04:18 Cotulla apt killme
04:18 apt killme is probably a test fact
04:18 Cotulla apt zzz is /me zzz
04:18 apt ...but zzz is already something else...
04:18 Cotulla apt zzzzz is /me zzzzz
04:18 apt okay, Cotulla
04:18 gauner1986 apt zzz
04:18 apt yawn...
04:18 Cotulla apt zzzzz
04:19 apt from memory, zzzzz is /me zzzzz
04:19 Cotulla shit
04:19 Cotulla :(
04:19 gauner1986 what did you expect
04:19 gauner1986 :P
04:19 Jack-E lol
04:19 Cotulla /me applied
04:19 gauner1986 :)
04:19 Cotulla apt help
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04:19 Jack-E apt find my earphones
04:19 Cotulla apt babelfish
04:21 gauner1986 apt eat
04:21 Cotulla x en ru test
04:21 Cotulla apt x en ru test
04:21 apt иÑпытание
04:21 gauner1986 sweet
04:21 gauner1986 he can translate
04:21 gauner1986 :P
04:21 Cotulla apt x en de hello gauner1986
04:21 apt hallo gauner1986
04:21 gauner1986 :)
04:22 Jack-E aha
04:22 Cotulla apt hex 10
04:22 apt 10 is 31 30
04:22 gauner1986 apt displays the russian chars correctly for me
04:22 Cotulla apt x en ch test
04:22 Cotulla apt x en chs test
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04:23 Jack-E =/
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04:23 Cotulla apt news
04:23 gauner1986 he doesnt like chinese
04:23 gauner1986 :P
04:23 Jack-E :P
04:23 RJackson I thought "cn" was china. :p
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04:23 Jack-E ohai Rob
04:23 RJackson apt x en cn test
04:23 RJackson sups
04:23 Cotulla apt cpustats
04:23 apt Total CPU usage: 15325.8 s ... Total used: 2.9 % (parent/child ratio: 100.0 %)
04:23 Cotulla apt crypt
04:24 Cotulla apt dbugs
04:24 Cotulla apt flags
04:24 apt Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'my earphones' returned no results.
04:24 gauner1986 lol
04:24 Jack-E oh nooo
04:24 Cotulla apt wikipedia n00b
04:24 Jack-E lost forever
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04:24 apt At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N00b (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{for|the Wikipedia behavioral guideline|WP:NEWBIES}} {{Distinguish|Newby (disambiguation)}} {{pp-semi-vandalism|small=yes|expiry=23 March 2011}} {{redir|Noob|the Mortal Kombat character|Noob Saibot}} 'Newbie' is a slang term for a or , or somebody inexperienced in any profession or activity. Contemporary use can particularly refer to a beginner or new user of computers, often concerning ...
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04:25 Cotulla apt say die
04:25 apt die
04:25 Cotulla apt say /me die
04:25 apt /me die
04:25 gauner1986 ha-ha
04:25 gauner1986 :D
04:25 RJackson lold
04:25 Cass apt say \/me die
04:25 Cotulla apt say it's time to sleep. bb ppl!
04:26 apt \/me die
04:26 apt it's time to sleep. bb ppl!
04:26 RJackson apt act die
04:26 Cass meh
04:26 Jack-E apt say Rob l2sleep
04:26 RJackson :/
04:26 apt Rob l2sleep
04:26 Cotulla wakt
04:26 Cotulla wait
04:26 Cotulla bug>
04:26 Cotulla ?
04:26 Cotulla apt say /me die
04:26 apt /me die
04:26 Cotulla apt say it's time to sleep. bb ppl!
04:26 apt it's time to sleep. bb ppl!
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04:26 Cotulla hm
04:26 gauner1986 you gotta find that security hole in apt
04:26 gauner1986 :D
04:26 Cotulla whrtr "apt \/me die"?
04:26 Cotulla *where
04:27 Jack-E apt say rob did you get up at 4pm or was tom wrong?
04:27 apt rob did you get up at 4pm or was tom wrong
04:27 Cass \ is an escape char in unix
04:27 Cotulla Cotulla apt say /me die
04:27 RJackson today? I had my alarm at 4pm and got up at 5pm
04:27 Cass i escaped the /
04:27 gauner1986 apt doesnt like that
04:27 gauner1986 ^^
04:27 Cotulla wtf ok
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04:27 Cotulla apt /me
04:27 apt it has been said that /me is cool
04:28 Cotulla apt say /nick apt2
04:28 apt /nick apt2
04:28 Jack-E apt say Rob should go to bed earlier so jack can make his scripts for him
04:28 apt Rob should go to bed earlier so jack can make his scripts for him
04:28 Cotulla apt say/nick apt2
04:28 RJackson bots send chat differently to actions and commands,
04:28 RJackson I'm surprised my "act" command didn't work
04:28 Cotulla apt quote 124124
04:28 apt 124124: 0.00 (N/A/N/A), N/A N/A, Opened N/A, Volume 0, Change N/A
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04:28 Cotulla apt quote test
04:28 apt TEST: 0.00 (N/A/N/A), N/A 3:31pm, Opened N/A, Volume 0, Change N/A
04:30 Cotulla ok gotta go
04:30 Cotulla bb
04:30 gauner1986 goodnight
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04:30 Jack-E night
04:30 Scrizz :O
04:30 Scrizz :(
04:30 Scrizz i blame gauner
04:30 Jack-E apt say goodnight
04:30 apt goodnight
04:30 Scrizz lol
04:30 RJackson this guy from scissors is scary. :/
04:31 RJackson scissor sisters*
04:31 Jack-E DL
04:31 Jack-E D:
04:31 Jack-E ew
04:31 RJackson he came on wearing a jacket made of nails
04:31 Jack-E he's gay isn't he?
04:31 RJackson now he's doing crazy dances that even camp people wouldn't do
04:31 Cass gauner1986 : so what was the result of liblights ?
04:31 Scrizz lol Jack
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04:32 gauner1986 cass: well i got a testing version up.. but leds are not implemented in kernel yet.. so you won't be able to see any results with it
04:32 RJackson anyway jack, what about your scripts?
04:32 Cass yah but you got it compiled and some output from using it ?
04:32 gauner1986 cass: yes
04:32 Cass sweet nw
04:32 Jack-E ooh
04:32 Jack-E yeah
04:32 gauner1986 cass: what android gives me
04:32 Jack-E fixing the broken ones
04:32 Jack-E that annoy me
04:33 Jack-E because i cba to manually do it
04:33 maricsmith i noticed we have control over the flash on the leo now, is their a way to turn on just one of the leds instead of both? or is it an array thats not adjustable in that way.
04:33 gauner1986 now i want to see ppp working
04:33 gauner1986 :D
04:33 Scrizz :D
04:34 Cass i may play with that tomorrow
04:34 Cass back to work so plenty of time :)
04:34 gauner1986 you mean.. after you stood up?
04:34 gauner1986 :P
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04:35 Cass i have a lot of catching up to do .. not sure whats going on right now
04:37 gauner1986 better not go on vacation these times :P
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04:37 Cass for sure .. saying that i go away and come back to an all day kernel and darkstone build so maybe i should piss off again
04:37 gauner1986 :D
04:38 Scrizz lol
04:40 Cass gauner1986 : you mention ppp didint Letama come on earler mentioning he had it working via a patched libril ?
04:40 gauner1986 cass: exactly
04:40 gauner1986 but that doesn't seem to work on cm6
04:40 gauner1986 so i'm trying it on darkstone's froyo+sense now
04:40 Cass ahh .. k he released the ril ?
04:40 Cass sweet ..
04:41 gauner1986 i did compile it with his suggestions
04:41 Cass froyo sense is lovely .. thanks to that i have an all day droid phone now
04:41 Cass cant be happier
04:41 gauner1986 hm yeah
04:42 gauner1986 battery could be somewhat better
04:42 gauner1986 but it's very usable
04:42 gauner1986 true
04:42 Scrizz really Cass?
04:42 Scrizz nice
04:42 Cass really ? battery is fucking awsome for me now
04:42 Scrizz how long?
04:42 gauner1986 i still miss a neat alarm app for android :D
04:42 Cass unplugged for 13 hrs, used a lot on web / wifi and still have36%
04:43 Scrizz nice
04:43 gauner1986 it's still not optimal
04:43 Cass for sure but not a lot less than winmo
04:43 gauner1986 cotulla said there's something to catch in enabling cpu power collapse
04:44 Cass yeah collapse and it never gets up ;)
04:44 gauner1986 :D
04:46 gauner1986 sometimes the touchscreen doesnt work when i reboot to winmo
04:46 gauner1986 -.-
04:46 gauner1986 then i have to pull off battery cover again
04:46 Cass not rebooted that in days
04:46 Scrizz lol
04:46 Cass but yeah is see ts issues in droid .. i wait a few secs and its gone
04:46 gauner1986 nah
04:46 gauner1986 not in droid
04:46 gauner1986 i mean in winmo
04:46 gauner1986 after you rebooted
04:46 gauner1986 i can't enter pin
04:46 gauner1986 :D
04:47 gauner1986 can't do anything on touchscreen
04:47 gauner1986 but buttons work
04:47 Cass not noticed .. i reboot and i get droid again :)
04:47 Scrizz hmm
04:47 gauner1986 i also have to re-setup data connection everytime i booted android
04:47 gauner1986 in winmo
04:47 gauner1986 very strange
04:48 Cass yeah i do too
04:48 Cass no biggy tho
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04:49 Cass oi .. any you lot tried to get tiger woods running on hd2 ?
04:49 Cass i get some message about wrong screen ty0pe
04:49 Scrizz lol?
04:49 Cass type
04:49 gauner1986 tiger woods? :D
04:49 Cass golf
04:49 Scrizz yeah
04:50 Scrizz -_-
04:50 gauner1986 i know
04:50 gauner1986 my father is golf addict
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04:50 gauner1986 :P
04:50 Cass :)
04:50 Scrizz i might just buy a HD2
04:50 Cass not sure if its a proper error or if its due to no proper 3d chip
04:51 gauner1986 it's funny how my little soft-reset app for android already got distributed on the web
04:51 gauner1986 you can find it on google on some french sites..
04:51 gauner1986 :D
04:51 Scrizz lol
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04:51 Cass yeah saw you wrote one .. lol never tried it yet
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04:52 noellenchris ppp?
04:52 Cass ?
04:53 noellenchris any luck on froyostone w/ppp
04:53 gauner1986 hm
04:53 gauner1986 no
04:53 gauner1986 too tired atm
04:53 Cass gf's fault i suppose :P
04:53 noellenchris uploads are so slow w/rnmet.....:(
04:53 gauner1986 true
04:53 Scrizz lies
04:53 Scrizz >_>
04:54 Cass gauner1986 : not ugly anymore
04:54 gauner1986 well.. gf was keeping me awake all the weekend :P
04:54 Cass heh
04:54 Scrizz heh
04:54 noellenchris so many builds out lately..hehe, i've run a different build each day..lol
04:54 Cass acid party i suppose
04:54 Scrizz how come I wasn't invited?
04:55 gauner1986 cass: seems like a matter of point of view :P
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04:55 Cass haha
04:55 Cass Scrizz : no one invites a mutilator
04:55 Scrizz :O
04:55 Scrizz since when?
04:55 Cass since always
04:55 Scrizz i do parties to
04:55 Cass you missed that memo
04:55 Scrizz :(
04:56 noellenchris gauner1986: u say we can push lib file to test?
04:56 gauner1986 noellenchris: look at what letama suggested on the mailinglist
04:56 gauner1986 pushing the file is not enough
04:57 gauner1986 and links to it were already posted here
04:57 Cass gauner1986 : LeTama has it working ?
04:57 gauner1986 Cass: yes
04:57 Cass cool ..
04:57 gauner1986 cass: but that ril kinda sucks
04:57 gauner1986 cass: bad reception
04:57 Cass its not the proper htc one for leo ?
04:57 Cass no read ml
04:57 gauner1986 no
04:57 gauner1986 it's a generic one
04:57 Cass generic one ?
04:57 Cass k
04:58 gauner1986 written by phh and colleagues :)
04:58 Cass k .. thought we were not gonna use that
04:58 noellenchris funny that we been using same ril since vogue....
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04:58 gauner1986 cass: the funny thing is.. pin support doesn't work for them on their phones.. but it does on our leo..
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04:58 gauner1986 cass: phh was really pissed
04:59 Cass heh yeah read that
04:59 noellenchris pin would cause no boot into android on touchpro/vogue....if i can remember right
04:59 gauner1986 :P
05:00 gauner1986 ok, gotta go to bed.. goodnight guys
05:00 Cass nn m8
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05:00 noellenchris chow
05:00 Scrizz bb
05:01 noellenchris me too. bye all
05:01 Cass bye
05:01 Scrizz bb
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05:01 Scrizz :(
05:03 Jack-E apt say goognight gauner
05:03 apt goognight gauner
05:04 Jack-E ;/
05:04 RJackson pretty goog.
05:04 Cass :)
05:04 RJackson bah,
05:04 RJackson where do I go to learn all this kernal shit.
05:04 RJackson I know nothing about C -,-
05:04 Jack-E D: i thought you did
05:04 RJackson nor linux :/
05:05 RJackson not C.
05:05 Jack-E hm
05:05 RJackson bit of C++, and ofc leaning android-java
05:05 Jack-E ah yeah
05:05 RJackson c#*
05:05 RJackson I don't know C++ D:
05:05 RJackson I need sleep..
05:05 Jack-E lol
05:06 Jack-E as do i
05:06 Cass Dont think C is really the issue .. the issue with this kernel shit is knowing the hw platform, reversing the winmo stuff etc .. C helps a bit
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05:06 Cass docs are scarce
05:07 Jack-E mhm
05:07 Jack-E damn
05:07 Jack-E could do with an equaliser app for android =/
05:07 Jack-E might look into making one
05:09 Scrizz there should be one already?
05:09 Jack-E amazingly not
05:09 Scrizz for music player?
05:09 Jack-E there are media players with it built in
05:10 Scrizz oh
05:10 Scrizz u mean for the OS?
05:10 Jack-E mhm
05:10 Cass amazed why you'd want one
05:10 Scrizz lol
05:10 Cass always thought they were just noise
05:10 Jack-E :P
05:10 Scrizz i don't use eq
05:10 Jack-E i didn't
05:10 Jack-E well
05:10 Jack-E not on anything
05:10 Jack-E but my hd2
05:11 Scrizz lol
05:11 Scrizz i agree the hd2 sound is bad
05:11 Scrizz ;)
05:11 Cass shock
05:11 Jack-E ;)
05:11 Scrizz Samsung Vibrant FTW
05:11 Scrizz :P
05:11 Jack-E :P
05:11 Cass wu-tang clan sounds terrific on hd2
05:11 Scrizz lol
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05:19 Jack-E right
05:19 Jack-E i'm gonna go
05:19 Jack-E night guys
05:21 Cass nn m8
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05:37 apt dre <6338dc99@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.56.220.153> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 15d 1h 36m 9s ago, saying: 'lata'.
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06:19 Gordz afternoon all
06:19 Gordz the receptionist bought a HD2, and is complaining about windows.. I showed her my N1 and she wants that instead... is there currently a stable port of android 2.1 (or 2.2?!) for the HD2?
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07:33 WoZZeR [acl]_: you there?
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07:42 [acl]_ WoZZeR,
07:42 [acl]_ WoZZeR: sup .. i was about to upload the file
07:42 [acl]_ sorry its been crazy this week
07:42 WoZZeR cool. I sent you a PM
07:42 WoZZeR no prob
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07:43 WoZZeR Yang is basically the same as NBHUtil
07:43 WoZZeR It's designed for linux though, but wine should work with NBHUtil just fine
07:44 [acl]_ DZOs compile script uses something called Yang. Do you know what it is ?
07:44 WoZZeR http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/wiki/YANG
07:44 [acl]_ yeap.. looks like it
07:45 WoZZeR It does the same thing a NBHUtil
07:45 WoZZeR as*
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07:45 WoZZeR I prefer to use NBHUtil since I know it creates RHOD images fine
07:46 [acl] i wanna send you the script and source. You have way more experience with any of this cooking stuff.I'm still unsure if we should go straight to nand or just sdcard like the kovsky guys
07:46 WoZZeR I'd say there's no point in going pure NAND until we have 95%+ working android
07:46 WoZZeR At least Sound/3d and the rest of power
07:47 WoZZeR It's harder to deploy small fixes for NAND, you have to reflash and lose everything on updates
07:47 [acl] well even not it wont work... our code isnt made to boot straight from nand
07:48 WoZZeR You need to write NAND drivers, right?
07:48 WoZZeR or at least wrap the ones from OEMXIPKernel
07:48 [acl] lot of crap. but might as well start
07:49 WoZZeR is display going to work with tinboot?
07:49 WoZZeR I think I remember phh saying it wasn't going to
07:49 [acl] nope. .. that wont work for sure
07:50 WoZZeR so what's the plan, let it run for an hour and see what the log spits out?
07:50 WoZZeR or do everything through ssh
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07:51 [acl] need to see where we crap out.
07:51 WoZZeR I don't mind testing the flash, as long as it's only os.nb
07:52 WoZZeR spl.nb is where you cn brick your device
07:52 [acl] like i said.. you are the pro
07:52 WoZZeR do you have a certain build I should use for android?
07:53 WoZZeR or do you want me to just build it and send it back?
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07:55 [acl] nahh whoever tests it. i use a modified kernel for my use so xdandroid should suffice
07:55 WoZZeR I mean something to include logging
07:55 WoZZeR I have no problem testing it
07:55 WoZZeR and I can give feedback right away
07:55 WoZZeR just need to know how to find out where it crapped out
07:56 [acl] i dont think we will get far. Lets see where the stock kernel and rootfs gets us first
07:56 WoZZeR ok
07:56 [acl] once we know what we are dealing with i can give you lines to modify for logging to sdcard
07:56 WoZZeR cool
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08:01 WoZZeR Lemme know when it's ready and I can test it
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08:04 [acl] WoZZeR: http://hotfile.com/dl/60875486/773e384/tinboot.zip.html
08:04 WoZZeR output.nb is the file you created?
08:04 WoZZeR is tinboot.s needed/
08:05 [acl] output.nb is the file that comes out
08:05 [acl] that where i left it
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08:06 WoZZeR done flashing
08:06 WoZZeR rebooting now
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08:06 WoZZeR it's booting
08:06 WoZZeR and I see the screen
08:07 WoZZeR is the console supposed to not show?
08:07 WoZZeR or only in android?
08:07 [acl] no idea..lol
08:07 [acl] ur the first one to see this
08:07 WoZZeR heh
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08:07 WoZZeR last line is NAND_READ_ID=5501bcec
08:08 WoZZeR and it's stuck there
08:08 WoZZeR there's only have a screen of text
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08:08 [acl] fuck .. i have no idea where that is
08:08 WoZZeR does that mean it's trying to read NAND?
08:09 [acl] did you see the code itself ? it points to the sdcard
08:09 [acl] shouldnt read nand
08:09 WoZZeR I have not read the code yet
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08:09 WoZZeR but it's booting, so it's at least reading the zimage from SD
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08:10 [acl] well this is exciting .. anything else u can see ? other lines ?
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08:10 WoZZeR the first half of the screen is MDDI stuff
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08:11 WoZZeR ok, there may be 3 logs
08:12 [acl] im confused as how this works. did you supply your own zimage ?
08:12 WoZZeR yeah
08:12 WoZZeR I used the andboot from blazn froyo
08:13 [acl] what is that?
08:13 WoZZeR http://sites.google.com/site/androidport/downloads
08:13 WoZZeR the rar package for blazn
08:14 [acl] ahh so its xdandroid but modded ?
08:14 WoZZeR yeah
08:14 WoZZeR I believe
08:14 WoZZeR it used to pull sources from autocompilers
08:15 WoZZeR booted fine from haret
08:15 WoZZeR earlier
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08:16 [acl] ok well if it boots from haret then no complaints from me. Eventually we will need to make a diff kernel since change we make might break the haret version.
08:16 WoZZeR not one I created
08:16 WoZZeR if you want to send me your zimage, I can test it
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08:17 hyperfire21 nice so if there is a new kernel.. would it be based on the newest or still .29?
08:17 [acl] hyperfire21: nope .. thats alot of work
08:18 [acl] WoZZeR: my zimage is just modded for 3d. I many need to do the same to my phone to continue dev on this. but im glad we got this far
08:18 WoZZeR [acl]: read cfg0 = aa5400c0, cfg1 = 8744a
08:18 WoZZeR mean anything?
08:18 [acl] nope
08:18 [acl] we need a full log bro.
08:18 WoZZeR want the .nbh?
08:18 WoZZeR you have the info you need for Yang as well
08:18 WoZZeR on ppg
08:18 WoZZeR ppcg*
08:18 [acl] coo.. just post it on ppcgeeks
08:19 [acl] we can get others to post info. maybe recreate some sort of log
08:19 WoZZeR cool, just gonna test reflashing back first
08:20 hyperfire21 hope all is well in reflashing.. ill also test this out once u confirm it
08:20 WoZZeR nope, no harm in flashing
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08:20 hyperfire21 nice
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08:20 [acl] hyperfire21: maybe once we have sound we can move to .29.. even then we are unsure.
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08:22 hyperfire21 oh nice i meant .27 earlier..
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08:24 WoZZeR It's posted
08:24 hyperfire21 lets try this out
08:25 WoZZeR let me know if it's not clear enough
08:25 [acl] if anyone else is gonna try it be good if they post where it pooped out.
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08:25 WoZZeR Our current sources (that I have tested at least), don't allow for booting fully into android, but we boot atleast into the console and crash (this is a good thing, means we are part of the way there).
08:25 WoZZeR I included that, I'll add to post the last few lines if they can
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08:26 [acl] awesome
08:27 WoZZeR any ideas?
08:27 WoZZeR I was reading on tinboot that some file needed to be included
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08:27 WoZZeR an sd card with the andboot folder at the top level
08:27 WoZZeR an androidinstall.tar file plopped into the andboot folder
08:27 WoZZeR don't know if that is specific to that build or now
08:28 WoZZeR or not*
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08:28 [acl] WoZZeR: in the compile i included everything. All that stuff was supplied in dzo's tinboot branch
08:28 WoZZeR ok, so it should be in the .nb?
08:29 [acl] WoZZeR: it might be. Once again unsure of anyt of this. I never cooked in my life
08:29 hyperfire21 flashing it now
08:29 WoZZeR I think you did everything fine
08:29 WoZZeR the yang is the same as what I used for NBHUtil
08:30 WoZZeR I'll try a different android source
08:30 [acl] WoZZeR: well the builts themselves arent even being used yet
08:31 [acl] we are craping out at the kernel. Once we get passed the init, then we can worry about android itself
08:31 WoZZeR it should load zimage and initrd, right?
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08:31 hyperfire21 by the way did u rename it to RHODIMG.nbh before flashing?
08:31 WoZZeR no
08:31 WoZZeR ruu_signed.nbh
08:31 WoZZeR that's what most use to flash
08:32 hyperfire21 ok
08:32 WoZZeR [acl]: so startup.txt isn't usedm right?
08:32 WoZZeR it's initrd.gz and zImage where we are?
08:32 [acl] startup shouldnt be used anymore.. thats just for haret
08:33 WoZZeR it's initrd.gz and zImage where we are?
08:33 WoZZeR whoops
08:33 [acl] i think we still at zimage
08:33 WoZZeR I'm just trying to figure out where to start debugging
08:33 WoZZeR and find out why it's trying to read NAND
08:34 WoZZeR actually, it might be a random crash
08:35 [acl] lol could very well be.
08:35 hyperfire21 wozzer its stuck at initial touch pro 2 screen.. how long did it take u
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08:35 hyperfire21 to boot
08:35 WoZZeR it has stopped at 3 different places now
08:35 WoZZeR 10 seconds or so
08:35 WoZZeR do you have everything on your sd card correct?
08:35 hyperfire21 are u using gsm?
08:35 hyperfire21 i have cdma
08:35 WoZZeR no, cdma
08:35 hyperfire21 yea
08:35 hyperfire21 everything on sd
08:35 WoZZeR try restarting
08:36 WoZZeR [acl]: stuck at usb probe 3 times now
08:36 [acl] yeah thats expected too
08:36 [acl] phh mentioned it
08:36 hyperfire21 hmm its stuck
08:36 WoZZeR older zImage works better?
08:36 hyperfire21 should i try reflashing?
08:36 WoZZeR shouldn't matter
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08:37 WoZZeR you have 'andboot' on your sd card?
08:37 WoZZeR as a main folder
08:37 WoZZeR root*
08:37 hyperfire21 yea
08:37 Art-X morning :-)
08:37 hyperfire21 does zimage/modules matter?
08:37 WoZZeR [acl]: want to build a zImage with no usb support?
08:37 [acl] WoZZeR: need to actually butcher the zimage. May need to get a hold of the kovsky or dimamond guys to see what they did
08:37 WoZZeR yes
08:38 WoZZeR I'm getting the console screen though
08:38 WoZZeR so that makes life a lot easier
08:39 [acl] yeah.. ill get back to you on this. i gotta go for now
08:39 WoZZeR ok, progress is progress
08:39 [acl] yup.. gnite folks
08:39 WoZZeR night
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08:39 hyperfire21 no idea man its stuck at the initial screen..
08:39 WoZZeR what build are you using?
08:39 hyperfire21 blazn
08:40 WoZZeR from cab or from rar?
08:40 hyperfire21 rar
08:40 WoZZeR hmmm, try an older zimage
08:40 hyperfire21 does it matter that my data file is created already
08:40 hyperfire21 data.img
08:40 WoZZeR shouldn't, but can't say for sure
08:41 WoZZeR my first one booted with data.img already created
08:41 hyperfire21 no idea.. i think ill try an older zimage
08:41 hyperfire21 actually im not even sure which one i have right now lol
08:41 hyperfire21 i might have updated it
08:42 hyperfire21 past the blazn release
08:42 hyperfire21 ill start from scratch
08:43 WoZZeR hmmm, freshblazn takes about 20-30 to boot
08:43 WoZZeR seconds to console
08:43 hyperfire21 ok
08:43 WoZZeR that zimage is less stable
08:43 hyperfire21 which one are u using
08:43 WoZZeR the 2.1 sense seemed to boot fast
08:44 WoZZeR and stopped at the same point 3 times
08:44 WoZZeR the blazn one has stopped at 6 different places so far
08:44 Art-X ~seen Cotulla
08:44 apt cotulla <~opera@nat004-252-205-109.tvoe.tv> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 4h 14m 4s ago, saying: 'bb'.
08:44 hyperfire21 ok so which one do u want me to try
08:44 Art-X any new zImages released this weekend?
08:45 hyperfire21 im dloading an android build? which one should i get
08:45 WoZZeR I tried the archived 2.1
08:45 WoZZeR let me get link
08:45 WoZZeR http://reefermattness.scepterr.info/archive/%5BMJG%5DRhod.2.1.Sense.061610.rar
08:45 WoZZeR I tried that one
08:46 hyperfire21 ok
08:46 hyperfire21 dloading
08:47 hyperfire21 are u stayin awake? ill be able to dload and try within 5-10 mins
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08:48 WoZZeR I can stay up for a bit
08:48 hyperfire21 ok coo
08:48 WoZZeR grrr, might have to start building my own zimages
08:51 hyperfire21 heh
08:57 hyperfire21 wonder if booting from nand will fix sound..
08:57 hyperfire21 read somewhere cotulla said that
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08:57 WoZZeR the hope is that by not allowing nk.exe to run, it could fix stuff
08:58 WoZZeR that's the hope at least
08:59 hyperfire21 are we sure the nand is erased with this ruu?
08:59 WoZZeR won't matter
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08:59 hyperfire21 ok
08:59 WoZZeR it's overwriting the XIP portion
09:00 WoZZeR this isn't really a NAND install
09:00 WoZZeR it's just booting directly to linux, the step after that is NAND
09:00 hyperfire21 ok but im not getting past that touch pro 2 logo
09:00 WoZZeR do you have the SD card in?
09:00 hyperfire21 sprint tp2
09:00 hyperfire21 yea i just transferred the andboot folder
09:00 hyperfire21 thats all thats in this sdcard
09:00 WoZZeR so you have /sd card/andboot/zImage
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09:01 hyperfire21 yea
09:01 hyperfire21 sprint tp2
09:01 WoZZeR and initrd.gz?
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09:01 hyperfire21 yea
09:01 WoZZeR hmmm
09:01 hyperfire21 all i didd was
09:01 hyperfire21 flash the ruu and transfer that dloaded andboot folder to sd
09:02 hyperfire21 ill try a restart
09:02 hyperfire21 ill give it a min
09:02 hyperfire21 what rom were u using
09:03 WoZZeR WM rom?
09:03 hyperfire21 yea
09:03 WoZZeR mine
09:03 hyperfire21 could energyrom be the prob?
09:03 WoZZeR no
09:03 WoZZeR shouldn't
09:04 hyperfire21 bcoz last time i tried that wavdev.dll it wouldnt get erased or replaced in energyrom with resco
09:04 WoZZeR the flash only took about 10 secs, right?
09:04 hyperfire21 somehow was locked
09:04 hyperfire21 yea
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09:05 hyperfire21 by the way how did u flash it
09:05 WoZZeR RUU
09:05 hyperfire21 windows?
09:05 WoZZeR yeah
09:05 hyperfire21 or from device
09:05 hyperfire21 ok
09:05 WoZZeR from windows
09:05 hyperfire21 hmm
09:05 hyperfire21 i did the same but not sure
09:05 WoZZeR try a hard reset
09:05 hyperfire21 ok
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09:08 hyperfire21 wozzer i think then maybe data.img matters
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09:08 hyperfire21 bcoz i dont have that
09:08 WoZZeR no, it doesn't
09:08 WoZZeR it's not even getting that far yet
09:08 hyperfire21 what else could be the reason
09:09 hyperfire21 wait
09:09 hyperfire21 what hardspl do u have
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09:09 WoZZeR 1.00.Olinex
09:10 hyperfire21 rhod400?
09:10 WoZZeR that's not hspl
09:10 WoZZeR that's device version
09:10 hyperfire21 no i know that
09:10 hyperfire21 lol
09:10 WoZZeR I have a 500, from VZW
09:10 hyperfire21 i have the same 1.00 olinex
09:10 WoZZeR shouldn't matter though
09:11 hyperfire21 i dunno what else it could be
09:12 WoZZeR I don't think it does
09:13 hyperfire21 we need someone else to also try this out
09:13 hyperfire21 i used the ruu u posted on ppcg
09:14 hyperfire21 ill flash ur rom
09:14 hyperfire21 then try it again
09:15 WoZZeR it's not because of my rom
09:15 hyperfire21 any other idea?
09:15 WoZZeR I'm thinking it's your SD card
09:15 WoZZeR something isn't setup right
09:15 hyperfire21 hmm
09:16 hyperfire21 its a formatted fat32 1gb sandisk
09:16 WoZZeR that should be fine
09:16 hyperfire21 then i transferred andboot folder to it from the link u gave me
09:18 hyperfire21 wozzer did u ever try booting without data.img
09:19 WoZZeR yup
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09:19 hyperfire21 the only other thing different i see is the rom then
09:20 WoZZeR I can tell you it's not the rom, there is nothing special about it
09:21 hyperfire21 ok well ill wait till someone else tries it
09:22 hyperfire21 anyway to make the ruu create a log to sd
09:22 WoZZeR no
09:22 hyperfire21 ok
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09:27 hyperfire21 wait wozzer do u think radio matters then?
09:27 hyperfire21 spl?
09:27 WoZZeR nope
09:27 WoZZeR spl is the only thing
09:27 WoZZeR but you have the same one
09:28 WoZZeR it boots from your sd card
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09:28 WoZZeR if you are getting the logo, that's where it's stopping
09:29 hyperfire21 are u using the zimage from that sense 2.1 build?
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09:29 WoZZeR on that one sense built, you may need to change initrd to initrd.gz
09:29 WoZZeR no, I've tried it with the latest
09:29 WoZZeR works fine
09:29 hyperfire21 let me check
09:29 WoZZeR http://balsat.hopto.org/linuxmsm.php
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09:29 hyperfire21 yea
09:30 hyperfire21 its initrd ill change it
09:30 WoZZeR shouldn't matter
09:30 WoZZeR but you cant ry
09:31 hyperfire21 tryin it
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09:33 WoZZeR if that still isn't working, flash back to windows and double check that it boots
09:33 hyperfire21 yea windows booted
09:33 hyperfire21 tried already
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09:34 WoZZeR are you flashing between them?
09:34 hyperfire21 loading sense 2.1 through haret then ill flash the ruu again
09:34 WoZZeR let it sit for 5 mins
09:34 [ad] ist away (bye)
09:34 WoZZeR maybe there's an issue with the card itself
09:34 hyperfire21 haret is booting sense 2.1
09:34 hyperfire21 thru windows
09:35 hyperfire21 so card seems sfine
09:35 WoZZeR still could be an issue
09:35 WoZZeR windows may have error checking
09:35 hyperfire21 ill try a diff card
09:35 WoZZeR make sure you don't have any attributes set
09:35 WoZZeR other than that, I'm just waiting for other feedback
09:36 hyperfire21 ok
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10:22 elgrego Right today i'd like the full ram zimage fixed, leds 720p camcorder and anything else is a bonus ;)
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10:38 DuperMan yo
10:39 DuperMan MAKE IT WORK ON HD2 OR IM TELLIN'
10:39 DuperMan j/k. much straight luv at all devs
10:45 elgrego I've added the fullram zimage and cant see any artifacts? where will it tell me how much ram i have
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10:53 elgrego anyone?
10:54 DuperMan I think that benchmarking tool should tell you
10:54 DuperMan wait
10:54 DuperMan Quadrant
10:55 DuperMan SetCPU does too, in the info screen
10:56 elgrego Thanks, i'll try that :)
10:57 elgrego bugger, got onto market and started getting little white lines at the top of the screen :(
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11:03 elgrego only getting a scrore of 1285, is that average?
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11:04 phh <[acl]> i wanna send you the script and source. You have way more experience with any of this cooking stuff.I'm still unsure if we should go straight to nand or just sdcard like the kovsky guys (( the problem is booting from nand, having a / in nand is easy
11:06 phh but I think the easiest way is having a full system in initramfs
11:06 phh no mmc, no mtd driver involved
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11:07 fakker i get 1300s with quadrant
11:07 fakker using froyostone sense
11:08 elgrego im using clean
11:08 elgrego just think what it will be like when its finished!
11:09 theredundant with nand
11:09 phh <WoZZeR> [acl]: read cfg0 = aa5400c0, cfg1 = 8744a (( i don't think that's a problem, but msm mtd can be disabled in make menuconfig
11:10 WoZZeR hey
11:10 WoZZeR that was actually from the zimage I was using
11:10 WoZZeR phh: it always crashs at the usb_probe now
11:11 phh disable usb ? :D
11:11 elgrego I think i'll stick to the full ram even with the artifacts
11:11 WoZZeR that would be the easy thing to do, I don't have my ubuntu box set up
11:11 WoZZeR but we get video, so that's good :D
11:11 WoZZeR at least on console
11:11 phh yup, really good and unexpected
11:12 WoZZeR can you whip up a zImage without usb support?
11:12 WoZZeR don't know how hard it is
11:12 phh don't know either.. our kernel isn't meant to be modulable
11:13 WoZZeR [acl] was saying that he would probably have to hack up a zImage to get it working correctly
11:13 phh we coul trace properly usb I guess
11:13 phh later.
11:14 WoZZeR I'm waiting on other people to see how far they get
11:14 WoZZeR on the booting process
11:14 galaxy_loser guys, can aynone tell me who is the man that got htc hero camera fully working on 2.2?
11:14 phh anyway if screen works, i'll try it by myself
11:15 WoZZeR hyperfire couldn't get it working, but it worked first time for me
11:16 phh galaxy_loser: cyanogem i think
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11:18 galaxy_loser phh: ok thanks
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12:14 elgrego what actually causes the artifacts? Is it to do with graphics drivers?
12:15 phh what sort of artefacts ?
12:15 phh I think I might know those ones :D
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12:18 elgrego little white lines over animated things like the dowloading icon etc
12:20 phh \o/
12:20 phh I've lost so much time on this bug that I'm not sure I want to give the fix :p
12:21 phh bah.
12:21 DuperMan :-O FIX?"!
12:21 DuperMan GIMME!
12:21 phh the answer is simple, when dealing with hardware, trust the hardware maker
12:21 phh not the software maker.
12:21 phh ie take drivers from codeaurora, not google.
12:21 phh namely copybits and gralloc
12:21 DuperMan lick the touchscreen you say?
12:21 DuperMan ;) j/k. how does it compare to the builtin driver?
12:22 phh it works.
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12:22 phh it's more uptodate
12:22 DuperMan and does it kill the ts lag when g-sensor's overloaded?
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12:22 elgrego so you can fix it?
12:22 phh DuperMan: no clue
12:22 DuperMan sorr for acting noob. you excited me:) thanks for the work man
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12:23 phh http://husson.hd.free.fr/copybit.qsd8k.so
12:23 phh http://husson.hd.free.fr/gralloc.qsd8k.so
12:23 phh copy them in your system/lib/hw
12:23 phh and delete other copybit.*.so and gralloc.*.so
12:24 DuperMan cool... then I can haz full ram minus the artifactaion?
12:24 DuperMan drooling an' checking it out... just gotta find the fullram zimage again lol:)
12:25 phh it's weird that the bug triggers only when full ram is enabled thouogh
12:25 DuperMan probably lazy memory mapping in the google driver
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12:25 DuperMan didn't prepare for the hd2's layout
12:26 elgrego phh: Sorry i cant do that, any other way, ie a pre patched file?
12:26 phh lolwat ?
12:26 phh prepatched file ?
12:27 DuperMan he wants a cab:D
12:27 phh ok.
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12:27 phh i'm not a HD2 dev you know.
12:27 elgrego copying stuff into the system? not a master of this yet
12:27 phh I don't even have a HD2.
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12:28 elgrego Im a graphic designer not a c++ master lol
12:28 phh i'm just sharing my experience
12:28 phh yes and ... ?
12:28 phh none of these kills are required.
12:29 elgrego eh? so how do they work then?
12:36 DuperMan phh: should I chmod them before restarting?
12:37 DuperMan i.e make 'em 777 like the bcm driver?
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12:43 DuperMan rebooting now without having re-chmod-ed....
12:43 DuperMan lol. so gonna need to restore and older system image:D
12:45 DuperMan running fsck on the sd... fingers crossed...
12:45 DuperMan :)
12:46 DuperMan (am on mattc 1.5)... and yup. as I assumed:( graphics driver for x (I guess) ain't loading... stupid chmod><
12:48 DuperMan stuck after first and before second boot graphics on mattc 1.5, right after the quietly briliant screen. retrying but not being stupidthis time, gonna freehand it and try chmod 777 on both files:)
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12:49 elgrego DuperMAn: what is chmod 777?
12:50 DuperMan permissions ring I think. just letting the system know the files in question have system rights and so (I deduce) are allowed to run as drivers
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12:52 elgrego I tried copying them in with file manager and it says copy failed :(
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12:53 DuperMan should've done the following in terminal:
12:53 DuperMan "su"
12:53 DuperMan (allow permissions if asked)
12:53 DuperMan "mount -o re,remount /system"
12:53 DuperMan and then use the file manager
12:54 DuperMan but I doubt it'd work without changing permissions after you copy
12:54 elgrego i cant find terminal? ive seen it on early builds though
12:54 DuperMan and I'm pretty much guessing what the right permissions are, no factual knowledge applied:(
12:54 DuperMan get it from the market:)
12:55 DuperMan "terminal emulator"
12:55 elgrego cheers
12:55 DuperMan luck be with yta
12:55 DuperMan ya
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12:55 elgrego if it works i'll be made up
12:56 DuperMan lol... extracting the system.ext2 in wm6.5 (using winrar pocketpc) is slow as molasses
12:56 DuperMan can't believe I'm as impatient as to extract it only to most likely fail when I'll chmod 'em in a minute:) then extract for the second time...
12:58 DuperMan but yeah. it's pretty much down to having the nand graciously made working by grand dev cottula once fullram's snazzy
12:58 elgrego i typed "mount -o re,remount /system" now i have options to mount?
12:59 DuperMan it was remounted, but I doubt permissions will be auto-applied:/
12:59 DuperMan we both better wait for someone with a brain to come along, I'm white-screening on boot
13:00 DuperMan k no white screen second boot... waiting for the normal mattc 1.5 to boot, fingers crossed.
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13:02 DuperMan android loaded fine:)
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13:03 DuperMan linpack scores 36.331:D
13:03 elgrego failed again grrr
13:03 DuperMan artifacty... trying the chmod jiggle now... wait a spot
13:04 phh ah
13:04 phh means it didn't change anything ?
13:04 elgrego any luck?
13:05 DuperMan phh - it failed my first time around. I didn't chmod though
13:05 DuperMan after replacing the files in system/lib/hw
13:05 phh no need to chmod
13:05 DuperMan should I make them 777?
13:05 phh there is no other copybit.xxxx.so file ?
13:05 phh and gralloc ?
13:05 elgrego i just copied and paste and it failed
13:05 DuperMan hmmmm... none. deleted - had three others. wait, I recopied my original system image
13:06 phh [12:24:44] <phh> and delete other copybit.*.so and gralloc.*.so
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13:06 phh (just saying.)
13:06 kAmMa any progress with usb/wifi tethering ?
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13:06 DuperMan yeah, did it - on the restored image I have three files, qskd8k copybit and gralloc
13:06 DuperMan and a gralloc.default
13:07 phh delete them all then push my files
13:07 phh but shouldn't change anything then :/
13:07 DuperMan I'm 90% I had a permissions problem before since it hung in boot when loading the x display driver
13:07 DuperMan wait a tick... doing it
13:08 DuperMan how do I check a files current permissions btw? wanna apply the same permissions they had
13:08 DuperMan after replacing
13:08 phh ls -l
13:08 DuperMan thanks:) doing it
13:09 DuperMan being linux stupid sure is a hinderance... it doesn't give me a permissions number, says -rwxrwxrwx system
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13:10 phh yeah it gives something comprehensive
13:10 phh what a shame.
13:11 DuperMan hmmm... wait, trying the chmod route still.:) I'm pretty sure I'm at fault dude
13:12 DuperMan 100% sure. ls -l on the coied files gives:
13:12 DuperMan -rw------ app_89
13:12 DuperMan no way I'd let that id pass as a driver was I a kernel!
13:12 DuperMan :P
13:13 phh app_89 ?
13:13 phh I don't want to know how you copied th efiles
13:14 DuperMan hmmmm... es file explorer:|
13:14 DuperMan chmod 777 fixed the attributes but the the owners
13:14 phh who cares about the owner when there is 777 on it ? -_-'
13:14 DuperMan it's now -rwxrwxrwx app_89
13:14 DuperMan hey! don't be mean! I'm s-t-u-p-i-d
13:14 DuperMan it's a medical condtiion:D
13:15 linkman anyone knows how to decrease touchscreen sensitivity?
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13:15 elgrego DuperMan: When you have success, let me know cos im even Ficker lol
13:15 DuperMan rebooting...:D fingers crossed
13:16 DuperMan praying to almighty noob shugoth for success...
13:16 DuperMan :P
13:17 linkman T_T
13:17 DuperMan haret gave control to linux kernel... loading...
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13:17 DuperMan first graphics (htc screen) loaded...
13:18 elgrego What build? Im on froyostone clean
13:18 DuperMan fu** yes! boot animation running smooth!
13:18 DuperMan :D
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13:18 DuperMan waiting to test this bad boy in android itself...
13:18 phh ok, so it's a fail then
13:18 phh most likely.
13:18 elgrego .......well?
13:18 kAmMa any progress with usb/wifi tethering ?
13:18 DuperMan lol... no... it's about to be found out. started droid
13:19 DuperMan *android. no artifacting so far:D
13:19 DuperMan you most probably rule phh!
13:19 Jack-E so what are you testing atm
13:19 Jack-E i came in at the wrong moment =/
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13:19 phh (don't forget the conclusion, don't trust google concerning drivers.)
13:19 DuperMan YOU RULE!
13:19 DuperMan :D
13:20 DuperMan I don't trust google about anything so no worries there:)
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13:20 DuperMan and btw YOU RULE PHH!
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13:20 phh I know
13:20 phh I've been told several times
13:20 elgrego Duperman:try downloading in market see if you get the lines on the download icon
13:20 Microang Hi Everybody :D
13:20 phh well it's the fist time today I think
13:20 Jack-E hdy
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13:20 Jack-E *hye
13:20 Jack-E *hey
13:20 phh (ok I've woken up only two hours ago)
13:20 DuperMan elgrego - no lines on the keyboard
13:20 Jack-E i woke up 20 mins go -,-
13:21 DuperMan downloading from market now
13:21 Jack-E aaah
13:21 Jack-E looked in logs
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13:21 Microang DuperMan: Mind uploading those files with chmod?
13:21 DuperMan sorry elgrego
13:21 Jack-E worth me trying that?
13:21 DuperMan I just can't make it artifact:(
13:21 DuperMan I tried
13:21 DuperMan :D
13:22 elgrego DuperMan: I want to do it too, but all that stuff about -rwxrwxrwx app_89 goes over my heaf
13:22 DuperMan Microang - I don't think there's a point to copying chmodded files, it's only a couple of terminal lines
13:22 elgrego *head
13:22 Microang ok, but it might be easier for some noobs :D
13:22 DuperMan lol ignore it elgrego. just start terminal, do the "su" "mount -o rw,remount /system"
13:22 DuperMan copy the new files
13:23 DuperMan then return to terminal and in "system/lib/hw"
13:23 DuperMan do "chmod 777 filenames" for them
13:23 DuperMan like, one chmod 777 per file:)
13:23 elgrego no still over my head lol
13:23 Jack-E D:
13:23 DuperMan face - palmed:P
13:23 Jack-E just type those into terminal emulator
13:24 DuperMan I don't wanna download stuff I didn't make and probably won't work easier then what the maker of it gave us
13:24 DuperMan bad karma
13:24 DuperMan :)
13:24 DuperMan yes Jack-E. thanks.
13:24 Microang *types face - palmed:p*...it's not working :P
13:24 DuperMan btw
13:24 DuperMan oddly enough it runs a couple celsius cooler
13:24 DuperMan :D
13:24 Microang :D
13:25 Jack-E :D
13:25 Microang Lemme get my Leo
13:25 Jack-E meh i'll do it too#
13:25 DuperMan Linpack gives a nifty 36.577 :D
13:25 elgrego Upload it and i'll make a virtual cup of tea for everyone :D
13:25 Jack-E D:
13:25 DuperMan doing the other benchmarks now
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13:26 DuperMan lol wish it was that simple elgrego... gotta run it yourself
13:26 elgrego :(
13:26 DuperMan quadrant feels a ton breezier...
13:26 DuperMan 1307 on a class 2 sd:D
13:26 Microang could you give me a link to manusfreedom's website plz
13:27 DuperMan :D :D :D
13:27 elgrego It wont copy the files its says copy failed :(
13:27 zego CM6-HD2port news: RAM: 128MB+32MB+251MB = 411MB total, wifi tether works
13:27 DuperMan http://htcleo.noobhands.net/manusfreedom/
13:27 zego trying to port 720p camera now
13:27 Jack-E did you mount it?
13:27 Jack-E sweet zego
13:28 DuperMan zego: sweetness:) is the 128mb ram dedicated to system?
13:28 elgrego mount what? I hate this makes me look thick
13:29 DuperMan "su", "mount -o rw,remount /system"
13:29 zego <DuperMan> because we run from WM, there is RAM which is can cause a conflict so we cant use
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13:29 DuperMan wow... I top temp at about 32.4c
13:29 DuperMan what a blessed side-effect
13:29 DuperMan :)
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13:30 elgrego DuperMan: I typed that in but what next?
13:30 phh zego: lol ? WM is killed with haret
13:30 DuperMan start the file manager and copy the new files to "/system/lib/hw"
13:31 DuperMan after deleting the old ones of course, including gralloc.default.so
13:31 phh "of course".
13:31 phh lol.
13:31 phh (if I might.)
13:31 DuperMan and return to terminal to "chmod 777 gralloc.qsd8k.so", "chmod 777 copybit.qsd8k.so"
13:32 DuperMan zego - you sure 'bout that?
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13:32 DuperMan phh - did I mention you emperically ROCKING MAD SKILLZ?
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13:33 phh possibly.
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13:33 zego not quite sure, but this is the best mem map i can set
13:33 zego will look into haret src, to make sure
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13:34 DuperMan hmmmm... g-sensor induced touchscreen lag still exists. no shocker:)
13:34 phh DuperMan: oh wait.
13:34 phh this issue is logical
13:34 phh TS and gsensors both on I2C bus
13:34 kAmMa zego: hi, how did you get the wifi tether work ?
13:34 phh your I2C bus is 100kHz or 400kHz ?
13:35 DuperMan hmmmm... any idiotproof method for me to check? dunno
13:35 phh dmesg |grep -Fi i2c
13:35 zego <kAmMa> i use other bcm4329 driver, which is based on cm-kernel repo
13:36 kAmMa zego: and is this driver somewhere available ?
13:36 zego 1 sec
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13:38 zego <kAmMa>http://github.com/cyanogen/cm-kernel-experimental/tree/720p/drivers/net/wireless/bcm4329/
13:38 DuperMan wait... lookking for the wattage in that infos overload
13:38 DuperMan :P
13:38 elgrego chmod 777 gralloc.qsd8k.so wibt copy
13:38 elgrego wont copy
13:39 kAmMa zego: thx, but these are the sources, i prefer compiled one... :)
13:39 DuperMan i2c busy according to grep
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13:40 Jack-E works for me -,-
13:40 DuperMan elgrego - first copy, then chmod. two different actions
13:40 elgrego I did and it wont copy
13:40 Mavy exit
13:40 Jack-E have you mounted system as rw?
13:41 DuperMan WOW neocore is SMOOTH
13:41 Mavy DuperMan weird thing is i have not seen this G-Sensor induced lag yet. Although im running the 384mb ram
13:41 DuperMan sound enabled even
13:42 DuperMan Mavy - always have for me. try getting the game "runners" from the market
13:42 phh DuperMan: just in case.
13:42 phh do you get higher score in neocore than N1 ?
13:42 DuperMan 28.9 fps with sound enabled
13:42 DuperMan dunno how n1 scores
13:42 phh hum can't remember
13:43 DuperMan running without sound now. quadrant score was just a touch away from n1, probably due to my class 2 sd card
13:43 elgrego tried again and gralloc.qsd8k.so will not copy
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13:43 Jack-E well
13:43 Jack-E it copies for me
13:43 DuperMan elgrego - did you delete the previous gralloc before copying?
13:43 Jack-E but android reboots after i do so
13:44 DuperMan 29.4FPS Neocore without sound :D
13:44 DuperMan SWEET
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13:44 DuperMan trying dungeon hunter now, cause is fun:P
13:44 phh (the conclusion is don't ever trust google)
13:45 DuperMan google are more 90's ms than apple is
13:45 DuperMan :P
13:45 DuperMan lol
13:45 zego <kAmMa>http://www.mediafire.com/?zn9r4okv9ytie39
13:45 phh (I like saying that right after mickey|office joins :D)
13:45 DuperMan you heard about the google squadron? like, them buying unmanned aircraft for kicks and shizzles?
13:46 mickey|office chuckles
13:46 phh mickey|office: don't worry, I meant only about hardware drivers :p
13:46 elgrego DupMan: yes its pissing me off now :(
13:46 mickey|office heh
13:46 DuperMan elgrego - top goog or the files?
13:46 mickey|office has a love/hate relationship with g00gle
13:46 elgrego eh?
13:47 phh mickey|office: welcome to the club
13:47 theredundant how did u get neocore running
13:47 Jack-E WOW
13:47 Jack-E SWEET
13:47 Jack-E 1422
13:47 Jack-E in quadrant
13:47 phh too bad.
13:48 DuperMan WOW
13:48 DuperMan what class sd???
13:48 Jack-E 2
13:48 Jack-E :P
13:48 DuperMan dungeon hunter now runs at full awesome
13:48 DuperMan :D
13:48 DuperMan Jack-E - what build?!
13:48 DuperMan :|
13:48 Jack-E zego's
13:48 DuperMan mine did a 1307 at same
13:48 DuperMan hmmm... should I switch? am on mattc 1.5.
13:49 Jack-E i think zego is working on a new one
13:49 Jack-E so i'd leave it for now
13:49 DuperMan yeah. gonna wait for the new batch
13:49 Jack-E right
13:49 DuperMan then a batch after that or the one after that one... NAND bliss
13:49 DuperMan ^^
13:49 Jack-E lets see what else i can do ;/
13:49 Jack-E :P
13:49 DuperMan DANCE
13:49 Mavy is there a bootloader for nand yet?
13:50 Jack-E nope
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13:50 DuperMan not that I know of. rumor points at cotulla ostensibly being on one
13:50 Jack-E cotulla is working on his code privately atm
13:50 Jack-E gonna release a big one in september
13:50 DuperMan on one - at work on one
13:50 Jack-E he mentioned nand
13:50 Jack-E right
13:50 Jack-E ttyl
13:50 Jack-E breakfast
13:50 phh tinboot should be enough
13:50 DuperMan l8r
13:50 phh the problem is not the bootloader
13:51 phh it's evertyhing else
13:51 DuperMan what's tinboot?
13:51 DuperMan and yeah. summady should map that nandy goodness
13:51 DuperMan that overrated overhyped nandy goodness
13:51 DuperMan :P
13:52 Mavy phh thats what i meant. A working bootloader iow configured etc :P
13:52 DuperMan (would've preferred a bootloader allowing me for nand as cache and a partitioned sd for everything else
13:52 DuperMan )
13:52 phh Mavy: it's kernel's role not bootloader
13:52 phh well
13:52 Mavy bootloader should know what to map :)
13:52 Mavy hard to load the kernel if you cant read the nand :D
13:52 DuperMan lol
13:53 phh Mavy: ah you think ?
13:53 phh you're wrong :p
13:53 manusfreedom DuperMan: Y ou solve my corruption graphic line
13:53 manusfreedom ?
13:53 DuperMan manusfreedom: credit goes to phh
13:53 DuperMan all of it
13:53 phh manusfreedom: I solved.
13:54 DuperMan I was just the first tester on an actual factual hd2:PPP
13:54 manusfreedom jsut with a new so?
13:54 phh Mavy: I don't know how cotulla will do, but on current wimo systems, what is done is using "XIP" stuff
13:54 phh you put XIP stuff as boot loader, and the SPL puts it in RAM
13:54 DuperMan phh: rom dependant, I believe
13:54 Mavy XIP makes me cry :'(
13:54 kAmMa zego: thx very much...
13:54 phh you put the zImage and initramfs with it
13:54 DuperMan what goes in it
13:54 phh and everything is in ram
13:54 phh ready to boot
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13:55 phh it's the spl that does all the crappy job :p
13:55 DuperMan remembers his sad sad fiasco back as a xda noob, thinking xip stood for FREE RAMZ
13:55 DuperMan :P
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13:55 Mavy phh its MS short for MightyShit
13:55 elgrego Well my android is fooked now will have to put it back on again after work ?
13:55 theredundant how did u get neocore running :P
13:55 manusfreedom phh where did you find .so in codeaurora?
13:56 phh manusfreedom: hardware/msm7k
13:56 phh don't ask me which branch, I can't remember :p
13:56 DuperMan hmmmmm... anybody haxxxing me? my "a" all just turned into alphas:|
13:56 phh froyo, eclair_chocolate, eclair_coffee, froyo_damon or something like that
13:56 phh one of those :p
13:56 phh anyway I don't think they've changed
13:57 DuperMan brb
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13:57 manusfreedom phh: thanks :)
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13:59 DuperMan heh. font cache got corrupt(?!). in my winbox:|
13:59 Mavy DuperMan: Win* nuff said
14:00 DuperMan :S I don't hate on the win kernel. it's mostly benign:P
14:01 DuperMan btw, baterry up to 33.6c with otterbox case suffocating my hd2.:) still a cool degree chillier than before
14:01 DuperMan and battery consumption "feels" nicer
14:01 DuperMan will take testing to pointlessly verify though, so I won't
14:01 Mavy tempted to make the move to the fullram image now :P
14:02 DuperMan Mavy: DO.
14:02 Mavy already downloaded the SO files :)
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14:02 DuperMan bbl. time to eat and dungeon hunt. great game:)
14:02 danibjor to run the fullram image, do I need to alter anything other than the startup.txt ram addresses?
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14:04 adioph how to run neocore?
14:05 DuperMan adioph: get from market
14:05 DuperMan run
14:05 adioph DuperMan: thanks.
14:05 DuperMan danibjor: read the conversation. we just discussed how to get rid of the artifacts (phh's solution)
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14:06 theredundant hey fellas, i've exported tools in $PATH
14:06 theredundant but says adb unknown command
14:07 phh theredundant: adb shell plop ?
14:07 phh not just adb plop
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14:07 DuperMan just read cotulla's latest post in the discussion thread, and while I'm just blowing air since I lack the know-how to make one myself, and auto-reporting tool that'll upload kernel logs to a dev's joint server could be nice
14:07 Mavy reboot :D
14:07 theredundant $ adb logcat
14:07 theredundant No command 'adb' found, did you mean:
14:07 Mavy pray for me :)
14:08 DuperMan prays to almighty shoggoth
14:08 Mavy booting
14:08 DuperMan prepare to be joyed
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14:08 theredundant echo $PATH shows the folder where adb is present
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14:09 Mavy DuperMan if this failes you will be cursed by my mighty tux :D
14:09 DuperMan been cursed by worse:)
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14:09 Jack-E :S can't install neocore
14:09 theredundant i entered path, and did adb
14:10 theredundant still nothing
14:10 DuperMan restarting my own hd2 just for kicks:P
14:10 theredundant but ./adb works
14:10 Mavy looks ok so far
14:10 DuperMan Jack-E: unmount the sd card from settings sd and storage, then install
14:10 DuperMan then remount
14:10 Jack-E mmk
14:11 Mavy sigh. using adb to push the zImage is a no go :P
14:11 theredundant boot winmo
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14:11 Jack-E great -,- not enough space to install this item
14:11 Mavy just hope these so files are ok :)
14:12 DuperMan o/t, love how 384mb ram and above smooths out the kinks bt had
14:12 DuperMan hmmmm... kill sumthing:P
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14:13 DuperMan phew. glad the superstitious testing of mine shown the fullram holds upon second boot:)
14:13 DuperMan how's it going Mavy?
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14:14 Mavy i used adb to push the zImage so it did not boot into the new one
14:14 Mavy was wortha try :P
14:14 Mavy trying to get this fail Win7 to detect my phone now
14:15 theredundant win7 is good
14:15 DuperMan hmmmm... wasn't really. could've used a file manager in android or just copied over, it's (the zimage) is in the standard sd "partition"
14:15 DuperMan :P
14:15 theredundant i love it
14:15 Mavy Thats what i did Duper
14:15 DuperMan Mavy: automount:)
14:15 Mavy adb push to the sdcard
14:15 Mavy did not work
14:15 Mavy trying to figure out why now :)
14:15 DuperMan hmmmm... adb probably overcomplicated stuff. should've went for copy paste
14:15 DuperMan :)
14:15 DuperMan gave wrong perms or whatever
14:17 elgrego DuperMan: Now i cant boot gets stuck after the android logo and when it hangs. Can i fix it without a fresh install?
14:18 DuperMan elgrego: sounds like you forgot to chmod 777 - copy system.ext2 back into the android folder on your sd
14:18 DuperMan and try again:)
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14:18 DuperMan (doing so undoes any changes you made to /system)
14:18 DuperMan (is "undoes" a word?)
14:18 elgrego bollocks its at home :( nevermind
14:19 DuperMan meh. get androzip from market and redownload the build:D
14:19 Mavy duper can you run free
14:19 DuperMan (androzip is a sweet compression tool that does rar on android)
14:19 Mavy in terminal
14:19 DuperMan free? what do you mean? like, su mode?
14:19 Mavy free is a command
14:19 Mavy it prints memory info
14:20 DuperMan hmmm... sure, just a sec.
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14:20 tester_ apt forget
14:20 tester_ apt forget Cotulla
14:20 apt tester_: i forgot cotulla
14:20 tester_ Cotulla is a n00b
14:20 tester_ apt: Cotulla is a n00b
14:20 apt okay, tester_
14:20 DuperMan copying it:
14:20 DuperMan mem: 393064 378660 14404 0 152
14:21 DuperMan swap: 0 0 0
14:21 elgrego If it works i hope darkstone adds it to froyostone
14:21 tester_ apt forget everything
14:21 apt i didn't have anything called 'everything' to forget, tester_
14:21 DuperMan total: 393064 378660 14404
14:21 Mavy thatnks Duper :D
14:21 tester_ apt forget all
14:21 apt i didn't have anything called 'all' to forget, tester_
14:21 DuperMan np:)
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14:21 Mavy looks like it worked afterall :D
14:21 Mavy as i am on the same now
14:21 Mavy just expected more ram :D
14:22 DuperMan :D hmmmm... who was it what said 128mb is mauled outta touch by winmo? summady did earlier
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14:23 DuperMan still, accounting for the 64mb vid ram it's a 448
14:23 Mavy actually i think the rest is beeing used by gpu
14:23 DuperMan noway. 192mb vid ram?
14:23 DuperMan lol
14:24 Mavy true
14:24 DuperMan beats an 5500 nvidia
14:24 DuperMan :D
14:24 Mavy doubt windwows is still blocking stuff tho. as harret will unload ram
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14:25 DuperMan heck. if that's true I'll happily lives with 192mb vid ram and 384 sys ram
14:25 Mavy running quadrant for third time :D
14:25 Mavy 1467 :)
14:25 DuperMan ^^ score/build? my best was a 1313
14:25 DuperMan a sure sign of good luck :P
14:25 Mavy im on mattc 1.5
14:26 DuperMan odd... me too
14:26 DuperMan sd class? mine's a 32gb class 2
14:26 DuperMan which I love and respect
14:26 DuperMan :P
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14:26 Mavy im on a stock 8gb
14:27 DuperMan hmmmm... Marx had it right! it's all about the segregation of the classes!
14:27 DuperMan :D
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14:27 Jack-E apt say :P
14:28 apt :P
14:28 Jack-E meh
14:29 Mavy rebooting now to make sure it stays ok :P
14:29 elgrego the 2 files that were replaced are on the ext2 file?
14:29 DuperMan lol... did that already, worx
14:29 DuperMan elgrego: yup
14:30 DuperMan replacing it gave me a whitescreen first boot, but worked fine after
14:30 elgrego any app on the pc that i can use to sort my cock up? cant wait til i get home to sort it out
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14:31 DuperMan elgrego: I suppose you could mount the image with any linux build running on the pc or in a virtual machine
14:31 DuperMan and apply the chmod there
14:32 elgrego no chance of a torrent of your patched one? ppppplease
14:33 DuperMan lol... dunno mate, my upload's probably slower than your workday
14:33 DuperMan :D
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14:33 DuperMan that and I'm paranoid about my private stuffs being logged in it
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14:33 Jack-E epic
14:33 elgrego im actually busy but have no focus at.........all lol
14:34 Jack-E 1542
14:34 Jack-E in quadrant
14:34 DuperMan DAMN
14:34 DuperMan specs???
14:34 Jack-E class 2
14:34 Jack-E ;P
14:34 DuperMan :)hate mine now
14:34 Jack-E in zegos still
14:34 DuperMan lol
14:34 Jack-E love this build
14:34 Jack-E XD
14:34 DuperMan oh... gonna give that zeg a go next upgrade season
14:34 dcordes - Please join #htc-linux-chat for offtopic and discussion about builds
14:35 elgrego i need darkstone to apply to his build
14:35 DuperMan sorry dcordes. will do.
14:35 DuperMan elgrego - no rush:) ain't that big a difference from the 384 zimage
14:36 DuperMan ;)
14:36 elgrego grrrr, i want more power scotty
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14:37 DuperMan I'm an amateur damnit, not a kernel guro!
14:37 DuperMan lol. bbl, EAT
14:38 Jack-E good idea
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14:47 [ad] ist away (bye)
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15:17 maricsmith gentlemen.
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15:17 gauner1986 hey guys
15:17 ElBartoME hi
15:17 dan1j3l ello
15:17 Jack-E good morrow
15:18 ElBartoME anybody knows if manusfreedom did a diff for his full ram kernel?
15:18 ElBartoME *did make
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15:18 dan1j3l gauner: u created liblights ?
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15:19 gauner1986 dan1j3l: i'm on it
15:19 gauner1986 dan1j3l: but kernel support is not yet done
15:19 dcordes ElBartoME: there is the patch for 300 something meg ram (enables second bank) on mailing list (and in git history)
15:20 manusfreedom ElBartoME: no
15:20 dan1j3l gauner: i created quick and dirty liblights, if u want u can take a look http://pastebin.com/iBZUHFHs
15:20 ElBartoME okay
15:20 manusfreedom ElBartoME: when I use full ram with actual pmem driver it's not stable too much white screen
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15:21 manusfreedom ElBartoME: if I use a new driver, we get line corruption (but solved with new lib .so), but wen need normally to update all mdp driver... to be updtodate with pmem
15:22 manusfreedom -n
15:22 gauner1986 dan1j3l: okay.. looking at it
15:22 ElBartoME manusfreedom: what about codeaurora?
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15:23 manusfreedom ElBartoME: I am on it, but not easy for me...
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15:26 ElBartoME i would help if i could. unfortunately i am not that expirienced
15:27 manusfreedom ElBartoME: me too, but I try ;)
15:30 gauner1986 dan1j3l: looking good at first sight :) - lights.h states that blinking blue could be converted into blinking green.. so we could change that.. and i guess overcharge detection and low battery is missing. but that's pretty much it? :)
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15:35 dan1j3l gauner1986: yes, i will work more on it later, this is 15 minute work so it can be done much better... :D
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16:11 ElBartoME hm, using the gralloc and copybits files from phh seems to fix the artifacts for me...using the fullram kernel for 45minutes.
16:12 ElBartoME also no whitescreen
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16:12 gauner1986 hm
16:12 ElBartoME manusfreedom_: you get my pm?
16:12 ElBartoME *got
16:13 danibjor wtf, how do you read the contents of ramconsole.txt when activating logging?
16:14 elgrego ElBartoME: what build are you using?
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16:14 johnb81 is there any solution for low in call volume
16:15 ElBartoME shu8i's build
16:16 elgrego I tried this morning but only one of the files would copy and now my froyostone doesnt work :(
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16:17 kAmMa does anybody get the usb or wifi tether running ?
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16:21 DuperMan elgrego:can't you set an ubuntu virtual box at work?
16:22 elgrego no my work pc is locked down like alcatraz :(
16:23 DuperMan shame... still recommend you downloading and unraring the system.ext2 at work from the winmo if you can spare the time
16:23 gauner1986 time to hack your way into it
16:23 gauner1986 ;)
16:24 DuperMan :D ssh the buggah!
16:24 ElBartoME with fullram the menu is so smooth :D
16:25 gauner1986 manusfreedom_: what are the current problems with fullram?
16:25 krat0s ElBartoME did you have to delete those old gralloc and copybit files first or just overwrite them?
16:25 ElBartoME delete them and then copy the new ones
16:25 ElBartoME gauner1986: afaik whitescreens and artifacts
16:26 krat0s ElBartoME: mind giving me the commands?? if it's ok
16:26 DuperMan ElBartoME: didn't have a single artifact since phh's fix
16:26 krat0s new on this linux.. sorry
16:26 ElBartoME i didn't use commands
16:26 DuperMan neither a whitescreen except for when misapplying them:S
16:26 ElBartoME i mounted the system.img in linux and edited it
16:27 ElBartoME gauner1986: i didn't even get the gralloc errors anymore
16:27 krat0s ElBartoME: ahhhhhh.. that's smart
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16:27 gauner1986 sounds good
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16:27 krat0s uggghhh i don't have vm installed on my pc
16:28 DuperMan krat0s: get virtual box
16:28 DuperMan freeware
16:28 DuperMan from sun
16:28 DuperMan works a treat
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16:28 krat0s wait.. i think i have ubuntu disc.. i'll just run it live from cd
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16:28 DuperMan it's like 20 minutes to download:P
16:28 DuperMan lol
16:29 krat0s what is?
16:29 DuperMan ubuntu
16:29 DuperMan I was just thinking... you guys know of a decent vm runner for android? I feel like making a puppy linux vm:D
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16:29 DuperMan like, to run on the hd2:D
16:29 krat0s ohh that's cool..i have a 3MB download.. not megabits, megabytes.. :D
16:30 DuperMan >< and here I was thinking 20 minutes per 600mb was good
16:30 DuperMan :'(
16:30 ElBartoME that's slow :P
16:30 DuperMan lol. I live in a desert
16:31 DuperMan literally
16:31 krat0s yup.. that's slow
16:31 krat0s lol
16:31 ElBartoME i live in a small town :D
16:31 fakker me too
16:31 gauner1986 me too
16:31 DuperMan small town=plenty o' free band
16:31 gauner1986 and internet sucks here
16:31 fakker market town
16:31 DuperMan :D
16:31 DuperMan oh. sux
16:31 fakker my internet is good
16:31 fakker ;]
16:31 fakker i work for an isp - and i dont even use their internet
16:31 DuperMan well mine's small town+desert+asia
16:31 fakker because it's shite
16:31 DuperMan :P
16:31 ElBartoME but i can get a connection up to 32mbit. but it's too expensive :D
16:31 gauner1986 yeah.. there are places with good internet in this town.. but i live at the bad side
16:31 gauner1986 T_T
16:31 ElBartoME i use 20mbit instead
16:31 fakker ElBartoME, how much?
16:32 DuperMan lol@the bad side o' town
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16:32 ElBartoME 32mbit -> 35€
16:32 fakker gauner1986, wrong side of the railway line
16:32 DuperMan $$$
16:32 DuperMan ?
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16:32 fakker thats not bad
16:32 fakker i pay ?35 for 50mb
16:32 gauner1986 35 €
16:32 ElBartoME yes, it's okay
16:32 krat0s ElBartoME: here too.. i can get 50Mb connection.. but quite expensive
16:32 gauner1986 that's nice
16:32 ElBartoME well, the keyword is cable internet
16:32 fakker yes, mine is cable too
16:32 fakker ;]
16:32 DuperMan I pay like 20$ for 10/768
16:32 DuperMan :/
16:32 DuperMan could be 1024 now
16:32 fakker the isp i work for is adsl+
16:32 DuperMan but suredon't feel like it
16:33 krat0s that's exactly what i got.. cable :D
16:33 ElBartoME if i would use the shitty phonecable, i only could use 384kbit/s
16:33 ElBartoME it's ridiculous
16:33 DuperMan talkin' 'bout kbit o'course
16:33 DuperMan my upstream makes puppies cry:(
16:33 krat0s lol
16:33 fakker mine kills puppies
16:34 gauner1986 elbartome: what are you using then? tv cable?
16:34 DuperMan mine used to kill kittens, and the kittens in turn weren't there to eat the cockroaches
16:34 DuperMan suckd
16:34 DuperMan enough o/t though
16:34 ElBartoME yes, tv cable
16:34 ElBartoME cheaper and faster
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16:35 DuperMan soooooo... any news on them nifty oc/uc kernels? Linpack leaderboards are chockful of snapdragons running at 1.2ghz
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16:35 DuperMan ***oc/uv
16:35 elgrego Is there any app in winmo that could edit the files?
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16:36 DuperMan elgrego: probably not. your best bet is either redownloading the rls and extracting system.ext2 or mounting the current system.ext2 in a linux virtual machine
16:36 DuperMan or getting an ssh client, you might be able to ssh into your phone if the network connects
16:36 DuperMan slim chance though
16:37 elgrego i used ssh on my iphone
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16:37 elgrego would i still need to do all that 777 stuff or just swap the files?
16:38 DuperMan try letting the phone boot into android, and after like a minute of it not starting the gui after the bootspalsh screen look it up on your net
16:38 DuperMan I'll do the 777 stuff just in case, really
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16:38 DuperMan but essentially you can "ls -l" and if the copied files are -rwxrwxrwx you're golden
16:38 DuperMan no need to chmod 777
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16:39 elgrego talk about learning the hard way
16:39 DuperMan lol
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16:39 DuperMan ain't that bad. you type something twice, remember it for life
16:39 elgrego twice im on 6!
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16:40 DuperMan so remember it already you stoner!><
16:40 DuperMan rofl
16:41 DuperMan all outta love honest. I have freakishly good memory, can pretty much remember a phone number after reading it three times... if I careabout it that is
16:42 johnb81 guys is there a fix for low in call volume?
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16:43 F-D ello, great work on the artifacts phh: just removed the existing files and pushed the new ones. works great
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16:46 gauner1986 hey cotulla
16:46 gauner1986 :)
16:46 krat0s ElBartoME: would you mind giving me your startup on the full ram kernel?
16:46 DuperMan omgomgomgomg autograph my face Cotulla!!!! :D
16:46 DuperMan YOU ROCK
16:46 theredundant damn, how long does repo sync take
16:46 theredundant been on for 1hr 40mins
16:46 elgrego how come everyone but me is doing this?
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16:47 Cotulla hey, gauner1986
16:48 Cotulla any news?
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16:48 gauner1986 cotulla: dan1j3l made a quick n dirty liblights.. i think you can use that for initial testing. needs some additional work though
16:48 gauner1986 cotulla: http://pastebin.com/iBZUHFHs
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16:49 F-D_ not sure grego: all i did was: adb shell <enter> cd /system/lib/hw <enter> rm gralloc.qsd8k.so <enter> rm gralloc.default.so <enter> rm copybit.so <enter>
16:49 F-D_ then exit adb shell and push the 2 new files to /system/lib/hw
16:50 F-D_ didnt need to remount on darkstones new clean build
16:50 Cotulla gauner1986, where binary?
16:50 gauner1986 cotulla: if you want i'll compile it
16:52 Cotulla pls
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16:55 manusfreedom_ phh: did you compile .so from source?
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17:02 elgrego F-D: any chance you could upload it? I'm on a mission to get it
17:03 elgrego found this would it work? http://www.fs-driver.org/
17:04 F-D what would i have to upload ?
17:04 F-D rootfs i presume..#
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17:05 elgrego I thought they are in the ext2 file?
17:05 F-D hm, that would take forever to upload :(
17:09 elgrego oh never mind, I'll make do with the touchscreen glitchy 384 instead :(
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17:12 dan1j3l back again
17:12 gauner1986 re dan
17:12 dan1j3l any news
17:12 gauner1986 cotulla is trying your liblights :P
17:12 dan1j3l ok
17:13 tiro_bsc need some info about android on htc hd 2 with dual boot...if somebody have few minutes and can help pls write me a PVT MSG
17:14 LordDeath some day will we see OTA updates for the android builds on the HD2?
17:14 Cotulla dan1j3l, yes. nice work!
17:14 dan1j3l cotulla: is it working ?
17:15 Cotulla not yet tested wait
17:15 dan1j3l ok :P
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17:15 tiro_bsc how long does it tako after this STEP
17:15 tiro_bsc - After u have done all steps go into Android folder and tap CLRCAD (for working sound), and after that just tap HaRET.
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17:16 fakker tiro_bsc, try #htc-linux-chat
17:16 tiro_bsc thx sorry for disturbing
17:16 tiro_bsc :D
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17:19 MrGrateful Just wanted to say thanks to all, especially zego - this was posted through a windows pc wifi-tethered through Android thanks to your earlier kernel/.ko :-)
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17:28 phh manusfreedom_: yes
17:29 slayerns phh, have you fixed full ram issue for leo?
17:29 phh I've no leo.
17:29 phh again.
17:29 slayerns i know but people say so
17:29 gauner1986 :D
17:29 Jack-E yeah
17:29 slayerns they say phh solved full ram issue
17:29 Jack-E it appears that he has
17:30 phh wout
17:30 phh I rox.
17:30 slayerns :D
17:30 Jack-E lol
17:30 manusfreedom_ phh: I need all android sources to compile?
17:30 F-D weewt
17:30 Jack-E and it is now a lot faster
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17:30 phh manusfreedom_: yes
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17:30 phh manusfreedom_: but not necessarly CA's android
17:30 phh any android is fine
17:30 gauner1986 manusfreedom_: yes.. i can also compile sth for you if you want to test
17:30 manusfreedom_ phh: :( thanls
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17:30 phh anyway it works, why would you want to build it uh ? :p
17:31 manusfreedom_ phh: to use lastest...
17:31 phh fair enough
17:31 manusfreedom_ I like lastest thiongs :)
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17:31 manusfreedom_ -o
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17:37 dan1j3l is cloning codeaurora passion git
17:37 phh errr
17:38 phh I'm not sure the passion tree is a good idea
17:38 dan1j3l why ?
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17:38 daeda1us hehehe, passion tree
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17:39 phh dan1j3l: It could be just a copy of google's tree I'm not sure
17:39 dan1j3l hmmm.., ok, thnx
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17:50 elgrego manusfreedom_: could your full ram zimage be fixed without having to patch the ext2 file?
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17:54 gauner1986 cotulla: is liblights doing what it's supposed to do? ^^
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17:58 Cotulla fixing audio bug
17:59 gauner1986 what's wrong with audio?
18:00 F-D elgrego: 30 mins eta on upload - btw its for froyostone clean
18:00 phh try codeaurora's libaudio ? XD
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18:02 elgrego F-D: I'll have to get it in the morning got to take the missus to docs
18:02 eddy anyone there?
18:02 phh eddy: no
18:02 eddy lol
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18:06 dan1j3l manusfreedom_: do u have patch for full ram? i have enabled full ram on my tree but there is very bad 3d performance
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18:10 NeoFlux dan1j3l: when you making a new build? :)
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18:12 dan1j3l NeoFlux: don't know... working on one, but it's far from completed...
18:13 ElBartoME funny, using the copybits and gralloc files from phh with the 384 kernel causes artifacts
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18:14 dan1j3l : 37.078 MFLOPS on froyo with sense :D
18:14 xUmaRix any android devices that have hdmi out excpet evo and droid incredible ?
18:14 manusfreedom_ ElBartoME: normal, because it use an old pmem
18:15 ElBartoME ah okay
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18:16 slayerns who has full memory update to push it to git?
18:16 ALoGeNo loo all
18:16 slayerns wat?
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18:17 NeoFlux dan1j3l: ? What was the previous scores?
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18:17 phh [acl]: just to say, concerning flash to nand. I've been the whole day on trying to flash my phone
18:17 phh and I still haven't succeeded.
18:17 phh (and I really mean flash
18:18 phh like any WM rom)
18:18 phh and now I find there are RUU tools for linux
18:18 phh OKAY.
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18:19 phh ah no I think I'd already tried it.
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18:19 [acl] phh: we tried yesterday but not full flash. just to see where the kernel poops out
18:19 phh [acl]: I can't even flash a simple WM ROM :(
18:20 [acl] phh: no good.
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18:23 [acl] phh: one day ill bother learning all that flashing crap. i'm afraid to use any windows apps since i dont run windows natively. I dont know how virtualbox handles all that stuff
18:23 phh well qemu handles it bad -_-'
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18:25 manusfreedom_ anyone can confirm me that the leo don't have stacked memory?
18:25 phh ???
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18:25 phh I'm pretty sure it does have
18:25 manusfreedom_ ha ok...
18:25 NeoFlux manusfreedom_: why? :P
18:25 gauner1986 stacked memory?
18:25 phh gauner1986: I've still no clue what it is :D
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18:25 phh but there are two types of RAM
18:25 phh SMI and EBI
18:26 gauner1986 :D
18:26 phh SMI is more or less integrated in the SoC
18:26 phh while EBI is a bit more separated
18:26 phh SMI is said to be fastser
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18:26 phh faster*
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18:31 StummeJ k
18:32 NeoFlux dan1j3l: I only score about 32 on linpack :(
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18:32 NeoFlux and 1172 on Quadrant :(
18:32 kvap where do i get ElBartoME's newest zImage?
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18:35 NeoFlux dan1j3l: whats the quadrant score like? :)
18:35 manusfreedom_ phh & gauner1986: because it's a new option in codeaurora kernel
18:35 phh new ?
18:35 phh lol it's not new
18:35 phh oh well
18:35 phh new compared to google stuff?
18:35 phh right.
18:35 gauner1986 :D
18:36 phh if you compare CA to google, CA is always newer
18:36 phh by far
18:37 xUmaRix i 2nd that
18:37 xUmaRix CA is always ahead
18:38 xUmaRix phh liquid dont have hdmi out ?
18:38 phh no
18:38 F-D http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?aa2bt6677j6dci2 <-- system.ext2 for froyostone clean. Includes gralloc.qsd8k.so and copybit.qsd8k.so for no artifacts in full ram kernel. produces artifacts on 384 kernel be warned!
18:38 phh lol ?
18:38 dan1j3l ?
18:38 phh funny one
18:38 F-D elgrego wanted it
18:38 F-D so he didnt have to push the files i think
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18:39 phh I mean the artefacts on 384 kernel
18:40 F-D ah, i dont know for sure but it was posted in here not so long ago by someone. manus said it was due to some memory config i think
18:40 F-D <manusfreedom_> ElBartoME: normal, because it use an old pmem
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18:42 gauner1986 manusfreedom_: do you have a patch for the fullmem thingy?
18:43 NeoFlux F-D: What's the changes of that image working for Darkstones V1 Froyo build?
18:44 NeoFlux chances*
18:44 F-D no idea.. try it
18:44 F-D :)
18:44 NeoFlux lols, oki
18:44 NeoFlux F-D: include Wifi driver?
18:44 F-D its darkstones froyostone clean one.. includes all his did and now the fix for no artifacts
18:45 NeoFlux interesting
18:45 NeoFlux I thought the original release of froyostone was quite sluggish with the 384 image
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18:47 Hunterkll hihi
18:47 Hunterkll i got on without issue
18:47 Hunterkll yay
18:48 Hunterkll Darwin Seto-Kaibas-iMac.local 10.2.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.2.0: Tue Nov 17 01:24:40 EST 2009; annappirtrvh v2:xnu-1486.2.11/BUILD/obj/RELEASE_I386 i386 i386
18:48 Hunterkll :) lol @ name
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18:57 Hunterkll [acl]: I have used compaq flashing tools on vmware
18:57 Hunterkll seems to handle direct usb traffic well
18:57 [acl] Hunterkll: awesome.. makes me feel confident that i wont destroy my phone
18:57 [acl] Hunterkll: any idea on virtual box?
18:57 Hunterkll oh hell
18:58 Hunterkll never used it
18:58 Hunterkll vmware thru and thru ;)
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18:59 Hunterkll but you will never trash the phonr
18:59 [acl] dang.. too much work to install vmware .. or im just too lazy
18:59 Hunterkll flashing will never kick you out of spl permenantly :)
18:59 Hunterkll i hope... :
19:00 Hunterkll Unless you aim to replace spl???
19:00 Hunterkll [acl]: If flashing will not work, it will fail before even wiping anything, i think.
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19:00 Hunterkll only problem i see is device changing and virtualbox losing grip... only during reboot to spl
19:01 Hunterkll boot up in spl should help fix that
19:01 Hunterkll or does virtualbox have 'snag all usb traffic period' option?
19:01 Ninpo phh: I got that governor working properly, found out why it was being a shit in 2.6.29
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19:04 Hunterkll ali1234: did some asking, gnome compiled 5 years ago should 100% run on newer kernel in the 'will execute' sense... userspace kernel ABI "never" changes
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19:04 Hunterkll aka you can upgrade a 2.4 sys to 2.6 kernel without much userspace mods
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19:05 Hunterkll only support for major changes such as /dev to udev etc. old pkgs will "still run 100%"
19:05 fakker apt x ru en ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÍÈÅ
19:05 apt ÄÎÑÂÈÄÀÃÈÅ
19:06 fakker apt x en ru goodbye
19:06 apt до ÑвиданиÑ
19:07 ZoNeP1 hello
19:07 Cotulla apt say hello
19:07 apt hello
19:07 Hunterkll all leo devs. we should make 1 android build 100% legit and only support that build
19:07 Hunterkll (aka no sense etc. :P )
19:08 ZoNeP1 any way to increas sound volume in froyostone w/scence
19:08 Hunterkll dont use sense :P
19:09 Hunterkll and wait for kernel fixes
19:09 ZoNeP1 why
19:09 fakker apt x ru en ìíå ïî õóé
19:09 Hunterkll not userspace issue
19:09 apt ìíå of ïî of õóé
19:09 Cotulla fakker, LOL
19:09 Cotulla :D
19:09 Hunterkll zonep1: your mother would not approve of illegal software piracy :D :D :P
19:09 gauner1986 mine does
19:09 ZoNeP1 it does
19:09 gauner1986 :)
19:09 Hunterkll :P
19:09 ZoNeP1 *sh
19:10 Hunterkll anyway
19:10 Hunterkll volume issues are kernel driver issues afaik
19:10 ZoNeP1 so no fix?
19:10 Hunterkll best you can do is use other android "builds" or wait for new image
19:10 ZoNeP1 i am in full ram
19:10 Hunterkll some people report others as louder
19:10 ZoNeP1 with phh fix
19:11 Hunterkll phh why you fix leo all the time even though yo don't have one?
19:11 Hunterkll :P
19:11 Hunterkll should hold back so we have weird problem all time so you rhod people can stop crying
19:11 ZoNeP1 he fix screen gliture
19:12 phh Hunterkll: perhaps someone will give me a HD2 ? :p
19:12 Hunterkll i know, i just find it funny he's working on device that has no sound or hw3d yet :P
19:12 Hunterkll and helping leo leapfrog the shit out of him :P
19:12 ZoNeP1 i will but iam so far
19:12 Hunterkll ?
19:13 gauner1986 hm
19:13 ElBartoME nee immer noch net
19:13 ElBartoME fuck xD wrong windows xD
19:13 ElBartoME *window
19:13 gauner1986 darkstones froyo also has the no carrier problem
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19:13 gauner1986 ppp doesnt work
19:13 gauner1986 :(
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19:14 Hunterkll lol
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19:27 Hunterkll who want to make stock android for leo ota updatable and all that jazz? :P
19:27 phh stock android for leo ?
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19:27 phh that sounds weird.
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19:27 Hunterkll phh: as in from google source no htc bs :P
19:28 phh yeah. google is bs too
19:28 Hunterkll and with working OTA update mechanisim
19:28 Hunterkll lol, yes, but they are android original
19:28 phh not for drivers
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19:29 Hunterkll i talk about android userspace
19:29 Hunterkll not kernel
19:29 phh me too.
19:29 phh you haven't read the ""full ram artifact fix"" thing ?
19:29 Hunterkll ?
19:30 Hunterkll not that far in logs
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19:30 phh use copybit/gralloc from CA, not google.
19:30 Hunterkll lol
19:31 Hunterkll figures
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19:31 Hunterkll ca about everything
19:31 Hunterkll google bout ground up for android devices
19:32 Hunterkll so makes sense really
19:32 Hunterkll probably google take ca chanes because they better for device overall .. performance etc
19:33 phh chanes ?
19:33 Hunterkll chnges
19:33 phh google doesn't take codeaurora's stuff
19:33 Hunterkll ...
19:33 phh that's the point.
19:33 Hunterkll i have one hand
19:33 Hunterkll why not?
19:33 phh or they do months late
19:33 Hunterkll oh
19:33 Hunterkll because they software release house and not bleeding edge
19:34 dcordes hi
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19:34 Hunterkll hi
19:35 Hunterkll cotulla: for skinned ubuntu clone look at christian linux :P
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19:37 ZoNeP1 so no fix for volume in full ram
19:37 Hunterkll no yet
19:37 Hunterkll is wip
19:37 phh I love your development mess ...
19:37 phh every kernel has different features
19:38 Hunterkll phh lol
19:38 ZoNeP1 something is better than nothing
19:38 phh one dy you'll have a kernel that do 1080p playback without withouot support.
19:38 phh day*
19:38 phh and it was a wifi
19:38 Hunterkll lol
19:38 phh not witouot.
19:38 Hunterkll ?
19:38 Hunterkll lol
19:38 Hunterkll i will make
19:38 Hunterkll hdmi out
19:39 Hunterkll but sacrifice gsm support
19:39 phh one day you'll have a kernel that do 1080p playback without wifi support.
19:39 phh there.
19:39 ZoNeP1 lol
19:39 phh Hunterkll: ok, I can give you the sacrifice gsm part
19:39 Hunterkll :P
19:39 Hunterkll 'claims' hdmi support :P
19:39 phh but leo is hdmi capable ?
19:39 Hunterkll duno
19:39 Hunterkll dont care
19:39 phh ah.
19:40 Hunterkll just want to see idiots buy cable when i say 'hdmi kernel features compiled in'
19:40 Hunterkll :P
19:40 phh :))
19:40 Hunterkll maybe i start dropship cable business first lol
19:40 Hunterkll :P
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19:42 dcordes phh: you guys release xdandroid build scripts under a license ?
19:42 phh dcordes: I've been wondering
19:42 phh (I'm not the one who takes care of that)
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19:42 phh I think we specify a licence in gitorious
19:42 ala380 zego: any eta on your build?
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19:43 phh http://gitorious.org/xdandroid-eclair
19:43 phh GPLv3 on the right
19:43 phh but that's not really true, since we have no owner ship for most of those things ...
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19:43 dcordes phh: awesome
19:43 dcordes phh: I will look into it. planning heavy stealing.
19:44 zego <ala380> maybe tomorrow
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19:44 ala380 awesome, looking forward to it :)
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19:50 ali1234 Hunterkll: actually i'm pretty sure we tracked the problem to a change in the power_supply class between 2.6.31 (which the gnome version was compiled for) and 2.6.32 (which is the kernel used)
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19:55 Hunterkll ali1234: note my "will" and "should" in quotes :P
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19:56 Hunterkll 2.6 breaks kernel dev standards
19:56 Hunterkll 2.6 as of like ... 2.6.8 should have been 2.7
19:56 ali1234 Hunterkll: "will execute" was never a problem. it did execute, it just could not read from the /sysfs nodes, as they had the wrong names
19:56 Hunterkll and execution is all abi is... sigh
19:57 Hunterkll stupid people
19:57 Hunterkll angers at andrew morton :(
19:57 Hunterkll and others
19:57 Hunterkll why is this shit not in 2.7? breaking stuff goes in odd kernel vers
19:57 Hunterkll even vers are supposed to be stable...
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19:58 ali1234 linux has never guaranteed a stable abi.
19:58 ali1234 and abi is more than just executable format. it also covers how system calls are supposed to work
19:58 Mavy Hunterkll why do you think mr torvalds himself left the mailing lists :P
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20:00 Mavy i still dont get why they made such a massive change in the middle of a minor release
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20:00 ali1234 you know there is never going to be a 2.7 right?
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20:01 Mavy yep. its gonne be 2.6.109423874321946213467
20:01 Mavy before they decide to move on
20:01 ali1234 yes. you might as well just forget the 2.6 part even exists
20:01 phh I think at some point they'll have to change there release number scheme.
20:01 Mavy they might make it Hex.
20:02 Mavy but nothing more will change
20:02 Cotulla they can stop touching kernel and instead developing nice user friendly programs
20:02 Cotulla :P
20:02 Mavy shhh hes here
20:03 fakker :)
20:03 Mavy i have a uestion Cotulla. do you know why i cant pass the i2c_bus=0,400 command to the kernel?
20:04 Cotulla u think I know what is it? what means 0,400? is 400 speed?
20:04 phh I don't think you can control msm's i2c bus speed from there :p
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20:04 Hunterkll cotulla when you adopt full memory fixes :o
20:04 fakker Cotulla ÿ ëþáëþ òåáÿ
20:04 Mavy its supposed to set the i2c with id 0 to 400khz
20:04 phh Cotulla: people reports "lag" of TS when gsensors is on, it's most likely because I2C bus is overrun no ?
20:04 Cotulla WTF fakker :D
20:04 Dr`Ryder Cotulla.
20:04 fakker lol
20:04 Mavy instead of 100khz
20:04 Dr`Ryder Is there a password on your new zImage?
20:04 Hunterkll Mavy: Mr torvalds still controls the kernel
20:05 Cotulla anyway I think problem in i2c code
20:05 Cotulla maybe it should be fully redone for leo
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20:05 Mavy Hunterkll: last i read he stopped activly supporting it.
20:05 phh lol ?
20:05 Hunterkll supporting the kernel?
20:05 Mavy phh you where right about the i2c speed
20:05 Mavy 0.041919] msm_i2c_probe: clk_ctl 35d, 100000 Hz
20:05 Hunterkll he is the yes/no man about things submitted to main kernel git
20:05 Hunterkll he is the decider
20:05 Dr`Ryder Cotulla: Password for http://cotulla.pp.ru/leo/Android/Cotulla_zImage_SND_START_CALL_FIX.rar
20:05 Mavy fair enough
20:06 Hunterkll dr`ryder: no pw
20:06 Hunterkll download again
20:06 Hunterkll possible corruption
20:06 Dr`Ryder It is passworded.
20:06 Dr`Ryder No corruption.
20:06 Hunterkll then how did i just open it w/o pw?
20:06 Dr`Ryder Multiple people reported password protection.
20:06 ala380 no password
20:06 Hunterkll i just downloaded it moments ago
20:06 phh Mavy: *total guess*
20:06 phh Mavy: edit drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-msm.c
20:06 Jack-E ooh
20:06 Mavy phh lies.
20:06 phh search for target_clk
20:06 Dr`Ryder Enter password for encrypted file.
20:06 Mavy checked that
20:06 Jack-E i just tried it
20:06 Jack-E it does have one
20:06 phh Mavy: ok.
20:06 Hunterkll wtf
20:06 phh target_clk = 400000; doesn't help ?
20:06 Jack-E however i got it a few days ago
20:06 Hunterkll it extracted once w/o pw
20:06 Hunterkll lol
20:06 Jack-E and there wasn't one
20:07 Cotulla it was special image for one tester, who report problem about audio.
20:07 Hunterkll dr`ryder perhaps he does not want regular users using it :
20:07 Hunterkll :)
20:07 Cotulla removed.
20:07 Dr`Ryder Obviously.
20:07 Jack-E lol
20:07 Hunterkll cotulla: pw all of them. ;P
20:07 Jack-E XD
20:07 fakker that would be insane, image all the messages
20:07 Cotulla we talked with dcordes this morning
20:08 Cotulla and he say about binray zImages
20:08 Cotulla he is right
20:08 Jack-E yeah
20:08 Hunterkll cotulla: binary zimages are "technically" a gpl violation, but without testing where can you go?
20:08 Mavy phh drivers/i2c/busses/i2c-msm.c does not set speed. just clk
20:08 phh Mavy: isn't speed proportionnal to clock ?
20:08 Cotulla Hunterkll, yes, but htc also violating it?
20:09 Cotulla they release sources later after device release
20:09 Hunterkll cotulla: I put technically in quotes
20:09 Cotulla even few weeks, right?
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20:09 Hunterkll as in, it's not really a violation i'd ever consider worrying about
20:09 ali1234 technically you don't have to release source until someone actually asks for it
20:09 Mavy dont think so as they get set without a relation to ech other in arch/arm/plat-omap/i2c.c
20:09 Hunterkll as long as compliance is in a reasonable timeframe, i wouldn't care
20:10 Cotulla agree.
20:10 Hunterkll i see cotulla's actions as compliant, myself
20:10 Hunterkll as do many other organizations and companies heh
20:10 Cotulla Hunterkll, just I got other ideas
20:10 Hunterkll oh?
20:11 Hunterkll you about personal repo idea?
20:11 Cotulla I think this kernel have unknown future
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20:11 Cotulla as well as unknown source
20:11 Cotulla I decided to download htc bravo 2.6.29 and port all stuffs to it
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20:11 Hunterkll .29?
20:12 Cotulla yes.
20:12 Hunterkll could be problem
20:12 Hunterkll if 99% work on .32..
20:12 Cotulla :D
20:12 Hunterkll you make nightmare for me
20:12 Hunterkll :'(
20:12 Cotulla I tried to port some stuffs from 29 to 32
20:12 Cotulla :(
20:12 Hunterkll any idea about i2c bus resets?
20:12 Mavy thinks Cotulla is high
20:13 Cotulla i2c?
20:13 Cotulla microp cause problems
20:13 Hunterkll oh
20:13 Hunterkll is spammy?
20:14 Hunterkll i get bad ts issues to point of unusable :(
20:14 Cotulla it just cause busy states
20:14 Cotulla ts also on i2c
20:14 Cotulla so it's not working
20:14 Cotulla when it do reset
20:14 Hunterkll ignore microp state?
20:14 Hunterkll why i2c want to reset so much
20:14 Cotulla because microp cause problems
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20:14 Cotulla it make bus busy seems
20:14 Cotulla and then it go to reset
20:14 Hunterkll wtf
20:14 Cotulla few secs
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20:15 Hunterkll i confused
20:15 Cotulla u think me not?
20:16 Hunterkll no, i think you too
20:16 Hunterkll it just make no sense to me
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20:16 Hunterkll fuck htc
20:16 Hunterkll >:3
20:16 Mavy hmm Hunterkll hes right
20:16 Mavy msm_i2c msm_i2c.0: error, status 63c8 errors
20:16 Mavy when i move the device
20:16 Hunterkll i know he is
20:16 Mavy but not when its still
20:16 Hunterkll .... gsensor
20:16 Hunterkll when no gsensor
20:16 Hunterkll it work?
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20:17 Hunterkll disable gsensor possible in userspace?
20:17 Mavy people on forum have said when turning the autorotate off it appears to be ok
20:17 Hunterkll oh
20:17 Mavy i think its the autorotate that is polling to much
20:17 Hunterkll so allowed to have it, just not constant polling
20:17 Hunterkll hrm
20:17 Hunterkll shgould not be polling 'too muxh'
20:17 Hunterkll no such thing imo. should be queued in this situation
20:18 Mavy does the gsensor not set an event of some sort when rotated 90 deg?
20:18 Hunterkll i do not know
20:18 Cotulla ok it's time to refactoring - move stuffs from microp.c
20:19 Hunterkll yes
20:19 Hunterkll many printks plz
20:19 Cotulla proximity to -prox.c and lsensor to -ls.c
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20:20 Mavy microp the gsensor?
20:21 Cotulla gsensor connected to microp
20:22 Mavy im trying to find the /sys/devices forlder for the gsensor
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20:35 Hunterkll dcordes: is git up to date wrt ram layout?
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20:36 dcordes Hunterkll: check the log
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20:37 dcordes Hunterkll: if you want to supply a patch use mailing list or pastebin it here and I will take care
20:37 dcordes Hunterkll: optionally request commit access
20:40 Hunterkll ohh
20:40 Hunterkll potential offer of commit access
20:40 Hunterkll ;)
20:40 Hunterkll i must be good at pretending to be a computer user !
20:41 Hunterkll dcordes: I forgot about shortlog when i asked.... i have delicious schnapps ;)
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20:43 dcordes Hunterkll: everybody can request the commit access
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20:43 Cali03 hi all
20:43 dcordes Hunterkll: also see the mailing list for manus' patch that adds more mem
20:44 Cali03 someone have some times for help me with my Leo?
20:44 phh no.
20:44 dcordes http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-August/000159.html
20:45 dcordes Hunterkll: unfortunately it is not and isolated diff that only adds the extra mem but it
20:45 dcordes Hunterkll: adds the entire cotulla tree changes plus mem diff. you might ask manusfreedom_ to supply the isolated diff to apply on git HEAD (current git revision)
20:45 dcordes Cali03: don't ask to ask just ask
20:45 Cali03 ok
20:45 Cali03 i want change my radio
20:46 dcordes Cali03: and if you want phh to answer you must buy him a hd2 first
20:46 phh -_-'
20:46 dcordes Cali03: ok this is something to look up on http://forum.xda-developers.com
20:46 Cali03 i know this web site
20:46 dcordes Cali03: it is not directly related to linux development
20:46 Cali03 but too much info i am lost i don't find a simple how to
20:46 dcordes Cali03: I will find you a link
20:47 Cali03 i want update the radio
20:47 Cali03 for try ubuntu on my hd2
20:47 Cali03 i have SPL-2.08
20:48 dcordes Cali03: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611787
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20:48 dcordes Cali03: what is your current radio version ?
20:48 dcordes Cali03: you need 2.08 + radio version to use linux on hd2
20:49 Cali03 well
20:49 Cali03 when phone start
20:49 Cali03 R 2.07.51.22
20:50 shu8i dcordes: included tree and everything else in first post
20:51 Cali03 i can't use HSPL because i am in SPL-2.0.8
20:51 dcordes Cali03: ok ask on the forum
20:51 dcordes Cali03: or #xda-devs
20:51 dcordes Cali03: but they are usually rude with noobs
20:51 dcordes so I really recommend asking on xda
20:51 Cali03 hehehe
20:51 Cali03 ok
20:51 Cali03 i will ask in forum
20:51 Cali03 thanks for your time
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20:52 Hunterkll cali
20:52 xUmaRix is acer stream out yet? it have hdmi out
20:52 Hunterkll spl-2.0.8 iirc is supported? O./o
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20:53 Hunterkll or is it 2.8
20:53 dcordes shu8i: you have to understand that you are violating the GPL if you can provide the _exact_ source code used. i.e. if you have some zImage that e.g. enables extra ram, and you don't have an extra ram patch you are not allowed to provide that zImage
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20:54 Cotulla u again start? :D
20:54 Cotulla dcordes, http://gpl-violations.org
20:55 ElBartoME dcordes: ?
20:55 ElBartoME the tree is online
20:56 Cotulla err, <license-violation@gnu.org>
20:56 dcordes Cotulla: of course. it is my new hobby
20:56 Cotulla really?
20:56 dcordes Cotulla: you don't need to address them. it is suffcient if people give the code when you ask for it.
20:56 dcordes Cotulla: which seems to work.
20:56 Cotulla but they have services... why u should waste ur time?
20:57 dcordes Cotulla: again. it is not necessary to contact such instances when people provide the source code upon request.
20:57 Cotulla ok ok
20:59 shu8i dcordes: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7434822&postcount=1 Quote: ElBartoME 2.6.32.9 #7 Kernel:
20:59 shu8i Tree | zImage | Wifi Module | Readme
20:59 dcordes shu8i: perfect
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21:03 [acl] phh: ive been away from xda for a while.. im seeing all these new builds..
21:03 phh [acl]: same here
21:04 shu8i phh: youve an hd2?
21:04 dcordes bbl
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21:06 phh shu8i: no
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21:21 Hunterkll 4. Soft Reset your device then using a File Manager goto your Storage Card, Android folder and run clrad.exe (it wont do anything but it has run) followed by haret.exe (do this within 30 seconds of your phone booting into Windows Mobile)
21:21 Hunterkll llol within 30 seconds
21:21 Refuge there's no readme with the new zimage?
21:22 [ad] ist away (bye)
21:22 Hunterkll there is a p too :o
21:22 Hunterkll pw
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21:27 Hunterkll manusfreedom_: nopc means no power collapse right?
21:28 manusfreedom_ yes
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21:28 Hunterkll kk
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21:28 Hunterkll your aug 5th bcm ko run with aug 7th fullram?
21:29 manusfreedom_ yes normally
21:29 Hunterkll ok
21:29 Hunterkll ohh wosd :P
21:29 Hunterkll wsod even
21:30 manusfreedom_ after kernel log or just after haret?
21:30 Hunterkll having trouble getting aught up on ation now bak from va
21:30 Hunterkll right after jump to kernel
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21:30 manusfreedom_ ok so retry
21:30 Hunterkll i know of phh's fix
21:30 Hunterkll yes, agreed ;)
21:30 Hunterkll ffxi needs to install faster :(
21:30 manusfreedom_ not for just after haret
21:31 Hunterkll wsod again
21:31 Hunterkll 'jumping to kernel' than death
21:33 Hunterkll brb more scnapps
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21:35 Hunterkll manusfreedom_: 3rd try a carm i guess
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21:35 Hunterkll carm
21:35 Hunterkll carm
21:35 Hunterkll chhhhhhhhhhharm
21:35 Hunterkll :)
21:35 Hunterkll ???????
21:35 Hunterkll damn kb
21:35 Hunterkll wsod on android now :(
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21:39 Hunterkll okay
21:39 Hunterkll can still see device
21:39 Hunterkll adb wise
21:39 Hunterkll i must be far behind :(
21:39 shu8i hunterkill: -chat
21:40 Hunterkll no.
21:40 Hunterkll :)
21:42 maricsmith ElBartoME I'm running shubcraft's latest withyour kernel#7 and the phone speaker volume is abit lower than i'd like. I was wondering if you incorporated the volume boost modification into that kernel.
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21:42 ElBartoME i'll look into it
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21:45 maricsmith ElBartoMe: thanks.
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21:46 Hunterkll why is msmfb so retarded.... ugh
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21:47 Hunterkll [ 0.000000] CPU: ARMv7 Processor [510f00f2] revision 2 (ARMv7), cr=10c53c7f
21:48 Hunterkll why are we recognized as armv7
21:48 Hunterkll ?
21:48 Blizzzard I thought snapdragon was armv7?
21:48 Hunterkll i thought armv11
21:48 maricsmith i thought so as well.
21:48 Hunterkll and the radio chip is arm9
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21:49 Cotulla wtf
21:49 Cotulla :o
21:49 Hunterkll lol
21:49 Hunterkll zimage compiled for arm 7
21:49 maricsmith so i think your confused about arm versioning
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21:50 Hunterkll without optimization for arm11 instructions
21:50 maricsmith the current arm processor line is armv7
21:50 Hunterkll qsd is arm11
21:50 Hunterkll lol
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21:50 Cotulla no it's more cortex based
21:51 Hunterkll maricsmith: http://www.arm.com/products/processors/classic/arm11/index.php ???
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21:51 maricsmith arm v7 is after arm11
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21:51 Cotulla it's different things
21:52 Cotulla but usually arm1136 is armv6
21:52 Hunterkll Note: The ARM7 processor family (ARM7TDMI(S) and ARM7EJ-S) is not recommended for new designs.
21:52 maricsmith arm 11 is the family designation
21:52 maricsmith armv7 is the architecture version
21:52 Cotulla ARM V7
21:52 Cotulla not ARM7
21:52 maricsmith armv7 belongs to the cortex family
21:52 maricsmith snapdragon is an arm cortex v7-a architecture.
21:53 kAmMa some one with latest manusfreedoms full zImage and working bluetooth headset ?
21:53 Ham3r ARM7 and ARM V7 are different things, lol.
21:53 maricsmith this probably shows it off the easiest.
21:53 maricsmith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_architecture
21:54 maricsmith scroll to about the middle of the page.
21:54 Hunterkll wtf
21:54 Cotulla heh wiki...
21:54 Hunterkll sorry
21:54 Cotulla apt wiki arm
21:54 Hunterkll my arm knowledge from pre-pxa days
21:54 apt At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arm (URL), Wikipedia explains: "{{About|the upper limb of an animal|other uses|Arm (disambiguation)}} {{Nofootnotes|date=June 2008}} {{Infobox Anatomy | Name = | Latin = brachium | GraySubject = | GrayPage = | Image = Upperarm.jpg | Caption = The human arm | Image2 = Gray413 color.png | Caption2 = Cross-section through the middle of upper arm. | Map = | MapPos = | MapCaption = | Precursor = | System = | Artery = | Vein = ...
21:54 Hunterkll i must be out of date :P
21:54 maricsmith they didn't do anyone a favor with the naming convention, thats for sure.
21:54 Hunterkll ya
21:54 Hunterkll pre-pxa days it did make sense though
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21:56 Hunterkll is a PA1110 dinosaur :(
21:57 Cotulla lol? SA1110 maybe?
21:57 Hunterkll ....
21:57 Hunterkll :'(
21:58 Hunterkll i am forgetful
21:58 Cotulla StrongARM
21:58 Hunterkll runs back to MIPS on his lovely O2 :(
22:00 Hunterkll why i think ps
22:00 Hunterkll pa
22:00 Hunterkll must be mixing old palm part numbers
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22:05 Hunterkll LOL Plan 9 is stll supported onnn ipaq
22:06 phh oO
22:06 phh wow
22:07 Hunterkll :)
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22:24 maricsmith what are all the components of the zimage? i know it contains the kernel is that all?
22:25 phh yes
22:26 Hunterkll is "just" gzipped kernel
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22:36 darkstone hm dcordes, is there a reason why the 384MB ram option on git was reverted?
22:36 manusfreedom_ darkstone: not stable I think...
22:37 darkstone hum, okay :)
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22:49 LordDeath strange
22:49 LordDeath "failed to find rootfs on SD card" <-- but it is still there :-S
22:50 dcordes hi again
22:50 dcordes darkstone: it destroyed zImage
22:50 dcordes darkstone: so you could only boot uncompressed Image
22:50 huggy_72 reading log....
22:51 darkstone dcordes: ah ok
22:51 huggy_72 apt Cotulla
22:51 apt cotulla is probably a n00b
22:51 Hunterkll lol
22:51 manusfreedom_ dcordes: I will work on the patch (I have not successfully using full codeaurora)
22:51 LordDeath I can't boot darkstones build anymore :(
22:51 huggy_72 O_O
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22:51 Hunterkll dcordes: someone fixed
22:52 Hunterkll out of schnapps :(
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22:52 dcordes darkstone: otherwise it worked very stable for me with a noticable boost of performance
22:53 dcordes manusfreedom_: it would be nice to get it rebased on uptodate git with working zImage
22:53 LordDeath [ 101.889880] ACR=3978 FL=1256 RAAC=88
22:53 LordDeath i am getting only things like this
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22:53 darkstone dcordes: hm, no big issue to use Image instead of zImage
22:54 manusfreedom_ dcordes: yes I am on it
22:54 darkstone well, until the zimage bug is fixed
22:54 manusfreedom_ and zImage works well
22:54 dcordes manusfreedom_: nice
22:55 dcordes darkstone: nobody is hindering you from reapplying the reverted patch.
22:55 manusfreedom_ it's just I want 512MB too, and I am near it
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22:55 darkstone yup
22:55 dcordes darkstone: (locally)
22:55 darkstone im just doing it now actually :p
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22:56 darkstone though im in two minds about the undervolt code
22:56 darkstone i think i'll just leave it
22:56 darkstone don't want to risk bricking hd'2
22:56 darkstone hd2's*
22:56 dcordes darkstone: install a watercooling
22:56 darkstone xD
22:57 manusfreedom_ darkstone: the zImage fix is easy: http://pastebin.com/kgfcnXVr
22:57 fakker Cotulla ÿ ëþáëþ òåáÿ
22:57 darkstone :D
22:57 darkstone thx
22:57 manusfreedom_ darkstone: it's for Makefile.boot
22:58 darkstone changes
22:58 dcordes manusfreedom_: if it works stable I think we can hardcode it enabled (no config option)
23:00 manusfreedom_ ok you can for 384MB
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23:02 LordDeath [09.08. - 22:53] <LordDeath> [ 101.889880] ACR=3978 FL=1256 RAAC=88 <-- now i get these messages sice 10 minutes
23:02 ElBartoME that's battery status
23:03 LordDeath so it won't boot...
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23:03 darkstone do you get untracked pid messages?
23:04 LordDeath dont know
23:04 darkstone what are you doing?
23:04 LordDeath at first i deleted all old anrdoid files
23:04 ElBartoME ~1550 score on quadrant with fullram. i guess that's pretty good.
23:04 LordDeath then I unpacked your build froyostone v1 build on the SD and started it
23:05 LordDeath after less than 5 minutes android was working and I used it for ~1-2 hours
23:05 LordDeath then I used the power button to shut down android and used WM until now
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23:06 LordDeath and your froyostone v1 wont boot anymore
23:06 Nuja darkstone I still have the gmail/market no sync/connection problem with the same rom/radio as you :/
23:06 darkstone LordDeath: talk to me on #htc-linux-chat
23:07 darkstone Nuja, may be problem with your provider
23:07 darkstone in any case, this question doesnt belong here
23:07 darkstone #htc-linux-chat
23:07 dcordes ElBartoME: how does quadrant elevate this number ?
23:07 LordDeath ok
23:07 dcordes ElBartoME: what does it represent ?
23:08 ElBartoME it does show the performance of the phone. cpu, ram, hw3d
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23:08 darkstone it works fine for me
23:08 darkstone are you using 3g?
23:08 darkstone oops
23:08 ElBartoME leo is faster than the nexus one according to quadrant
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23:09 dcordes manusfreedom_: how do you test stability ?
23:10 dcordes manusfreedom_: on the mailing list I reported about a tool do test mem
23:10 dcordes manusfreedom_: I used on leo
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23:10 manusfreedom_ what tool?
23:11 manusfreedom_ dcordes: the first simple test is to not get white or balck screen at boot...
23:11 dcordes manusfreedom_: memtester I think I am looking it up
23:12 manusfreedom_ dcordes: don't know why but I think I don't receive the mailing list... :(
23:13 dcordes manusfreedom_: you can use the archives to confirm
23:13 Cali03 hi
23:13 dcordes http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/
23:14 Cali03 wich android build i can use with jmz Android Dual-Boot for HD2 v4
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23:15 manusfreedom_ dcordes: I confirm that I receive nothing...
23:15 Cali03 this for example http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747492?
23:15 dcordes manusfreedom_: http://pyropus.ca/software/memtester/
23:15 dcordes manusfreedom_: I can compile it for you
23:16 manusfreedom_ Yes thanks
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23:17 manusfreedom_ I am already on the mailing list... and my password works... I don't understand...
23:19 dcordes manusfreedom_: never came across that. only had the problem that my mails wouldn't arrive on the list cause my send address is different one than register address
23:19 dcordes manusfreedom_: for you it's other way around right ? cause I have seen your mails on the list.
23:20 dcordes maybe check your options. you are possibly in digest mode so you receive a badge of all mail instead of each one directly
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23:21 manusfreedom_ dcordes: I check that... the last maiol I receive: android ril with pppd for leo 2010-08-05
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23:25 dcordes manusfreedom_: then it's all good. that is also the last mail I received and the last mail in the archive
23:25 manusfreedom_ ha ?
23:25 manusfreedom_ my mistake so...
23:26 darkstone hm, i want to try ppp data
23:26 darkstone http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/mobile-linux-discuss/2010-August/000160.html
23:26 darkstone i need to do this dont it
23:26 darkstone i*
23:27 ElBartoME the ril isn't that stable
23:27 ElBartoME many crashes
23:27 darkstone hm :/
23:27 ElBartoME i heard letama found another way
23:27 dcordes yes
23:27 dcordes using the normal closed ril
23:27 ElBartoME right
23:28 darkstone :o
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23:28 darkstone i'll wait for that then
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23:30 dan1j3l back again
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23:34 dcordes manusfreedom_: I will link memtester statically so you can just throw it into your android and run it
23:35 dcordes manusfreedom_: takes a while though. openembedded is busy
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23:37 Nion_ chaps... is it possible to connect to ubuntu on leo over usb? Like ssh?
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23:38 Nitefall I had a quick question for anyone on here that might be abel to help me out then I can get out of your hair lol
23:38 Nion_ Nitefall: have you asked in -chat first?
23:39 Nitefall sorry I'm new to this irc..
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23:39 Nitefall oh ok I see at the top
23:39 Nitefall ty ty sorry to bother
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23:49 NeoFlux_ darkstone: Your Froyostone build works great with the full ram kernel
23:49 NeoFlux_ and the replaced .so files phh recommended
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23:52 manusfreedom_ NeoFlux_: never whitescreen at boot?
23:52 ElBartoME still no whitescreens for me
23:53 Hunterkll got a fet first
23:53 Hunterkll i got a few at first none now
23:53 Hunterkll :/
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