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00:00 randomblame hopefully microsoft actually put some time into the driver model for wp7 though
00:00 randomblame I'd rather they be incompatible as long as wp7 is done right
00:01 MrPippy i thought it was pretty much confirmed that wp7 is wince6, just like zune hd is
00:04 randomblame netripper: do you think that entry-macro.s diff would work with other devices?
00:04 NetRipper MrPippy, well, assuming the user interface is silverlight/xaml, and added that they want to make it possible to use managed code to write "plugins or apps" for the user interface, they either need to make wince6 R4, or wince7 (or so)
00:04 NetRipper MrPippy, because in windows ce 6 R3, silverlight/xaml can only be used from c++, not from managed code
00:06 randomblame if that code doesn't break diamond, raph, blackstone, etc it would be good to keep it as default rather than machine specific for the next poor souls who can't figure out why their system timer won't work
00:06 NetRipper randomblame, yes it might be a solution to the problem we have (or had?) on raphael.. im not familiar about the status
00:06 NetRipper but we have the lpj= problem on leo too
00:06 NetRipper so we can check it later
00:06 NetRipper once we tackle our other issues
00:07 MrPippy interesting, i wonder if they've already got the support for that or if everything they have running right now is c++
00:08 randomblame is snapdragon even compatible with the msm7xxxx method of calibrate delay loop?
00:08 NetRipper nah looking at the time span they have left, they probably already made it managed
00:08 NetRipper randomblame, calibrate delay loop is generic code
00:08 NetRipper randomblame, it's the timer.c it relies upon
00:08 randomblame I thought it was hacked up for msm7xxx
00:08 NetRipper randomblame, (afaik)
00:08 NetRipper randomblame, oh, dunno about that
00:08 Markinus NetRipper: with this patch we can remove the leo patch in irq.c
00:09 NetRipper Markinus, did you test that?
00:09 NetRipper Markinus, because i dont think so
00:09 Markinus NetRipper: I'm nor registreted in linuxtogo, I will test tomorrow to check in
00:09 Markinus NetRipper: yes I removed and it works
00:09 NetRipper Markinus, i also removed that thing from irq.c but that's because i made a fix in haret
00:10 Markinus NetRipper: I'Ve a older version . . intresting
00:11 NetRipper Markinus, because it was a matter of disabling the DBG_TIMER and GPT_TIMER registers (like those three writel()'s in timer.c)
00:11 Markinus NetRipper: now I'vd enabled enithing . .works
00:12 Markinus (arhg big fingers today)
00:12 NetRipper lol yes
00:12 NetRipper i'm having a hard time decoding
00:12 NetRipper enithing = anything?
00:12 NetRipper or everything?
00:12 NetRipper :o
00:12 Markinus everything :)
00:13 NetRipper so you mean, all interrupts work without bad irq?
00:13 Markinus ok, no everything? but this what we have
00:13 Markinus NetRipper: yes
00:13 NetRipper what.. the..?
00:13 NetRipper because that entry patch
00:13 NetRipper man that blows my mind
00:14 NetRipper Markinus, btw on mobile-linux you have been added to the project i think, so you should be able to login
00:15 NetRipper Markinus, try ssh to linuxtogo.org and login with your user/pass that you made on the projects.linuxtogo.org website
00:16 Markinus NetRipper: ok, I'M testing
00:17 NetRipper i'll make a commit of my early fb_console and early ramconsole soon
00:17 NetRipper probably wednesday
00:17 Markinus NetRipper: "Could not chdir to home directory /var/lib/gforge/chroot/home/users/markinus: No such file or directory " any Idea?
00:18 Markinus NetRipper: great, I will lokk what I can do . . there are much things ..
00:18 Markinus *look
00:18 NetRipper hm
00:18 NetRipper but that means your login worked
00:18 Markinus NetRipper: yes . . I'm connected, this works, only this message
00:19 NetRipper so just try to clone:
00:19 Markinus ok, so we use git over ssh yes?
00:19 NetRipper git clone ssh://<username>@git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git htc-ltg
00:19 NetRipper yes
00:19 NetRipper replace <username> obviously :)
00:19 Markinus realy? :)))
00:19 NetRipper just in case you blindly copy/paste :D
00:20 ToAsTcfh anyone have an idea why a .29 kernel would break even1 in only aosp builds?
00:20 ToAsTcfh event1
00:20 ToAsTcfh we have no touch
00:21 Markinus NetRipper: :) ok, cloning in progress
00:21 NetRipper nice
00:21 ToAsTcfh on aosp builds but in htc builds all is fine
00:21 NetRipper im sure you know how git works, so just switch branch and you can commit and push should work too then
00:21 randomblame why to the clips on ethernet cables always come off
00:21 randomblame lousy design
00:22 NetRipper randomblame, they made it so that they annoy you on the worst time ever :)
00:22 Markinus NetRipper: this one htc-qsd8k-2.6.29 right?
00:22 NetRipper in FPS setting: "DIE DIE DIE!!!! HA HA HA, wait, why's nobody moving"
00:22 NetRipper Markinus, yes
00:22 randomblame netripper: That is what I suspected
00:27 randomblame hmm dg timer doesn't work on incite, hardcoded lpj or not
00:27 randomblame sad cheese
00:28 NetRipper what cpu does it have?
00:28 randomblame msm_timer_enter_idle: timer late -1572, reprogram it -- 1572 just seems like it's way off
00:28 randomblame msm 7201a
00:28 Markinus NetRipper: What do you think about to use my amss patch. Then we can use this kernel on different AMSS versions . .we using it on .27 . .http://gitorious.org/linux-msm-2-6-32-leo/linux-msm-2-6-32-leo/commit/de54f4f5b33e3a970e982b83f005aabc94452e6a
00:29 NetRipper Markinus, i didnt really look into it yet but i think cr2 was enthusiastic about it
00:29 randomblame woahs
00:30 NetRipper he did have another idea about how to do implement the AMSS stuff, so that it's compatible with the current API
00:31 NetRipper looks good
00:32 Markinus NetRipper: :) Ok, I put this in . . It's modifed already for leo
00:32 Markinus NetRipper: git checkout htc-qsd8k-2.6.29 yes, or?
00:32 NetRipper to switch branch?
00:32 Markinus yes
00:33 NetRipper git checkout -b htc-qsd8k-2.6.29 origin/htc-qsd8k-2.6.29
00:33 NetRipper though
00:33 NetRipper maybe im just doing it the hard way
00:33 NetRipper :)
00:33 NetRipper but i learned it this way
00:34 NetRipper my god that's awesome
00:34 NetRipper a small fix like that
00:34 Markinus NetRipper: ahh, yes, I have to get it from origin . . .thx!
00:34 NetRipper it works here too
00:35 NetRipper randomblame, lol thanks for pointing us to that patch
00:35 Markinus NetRipper: yes . . . :)
00:35 randomblame I'm glad all the time I've wasted on the incite is helping someone at least
00:36 NetRipper lol
00:36 NetRipper Markinus, tell cr2 the good news if you see him online :)
00:36 NetRipper i gtg to bed :)
00:36 NetRipper i can sleep well now
00:36 NetRipper :D
00:36 NetRipper nn
00:36 Markinus NetRipper: ok:) I will check this in with a comment to randomblame:
00:36 Markinus night!
00:37 randomblame markinus make sure you put vladone in there too
00:37 Markinus ok
00:37 randomblame :D
00:38 randomblame credit where credit is due, though I haven't heard from him in many many moons
00:38 randomblame I wish he had more time for this port
00:39 randomblame I wish the incite community had more devs bah
00:43 randomblame haha I have flashlight code in my timer.c I forgot about that, maybe that's whats throwing the timer off
00:43 Markinus randomblame: the time is the problem . . I know this. . .
00:44 randomblame gpt_hz seems like a rather low value of 32768khz is there even a pll that low?
00:57 randomblame maybe disabling high rez timer
01:07 AstainHellbring Markinus whats NetRipper's good news?
01:09 Markinus AstainHellbring: randomblame show us a patch whitch is working on leo too. Now we don't have any IRQ problems :)
01:10 AstainHellbring nice!
01:11 Markinus AstainHellbring: yes :)
01:16 randomblame I'm amazed that that worked line for line, I'd be interested to know the actual cause of the issue
01:20 randomblame and wether or not it breaks other htc devices
01:29 dcordes news
01:29 chillbeast hey all
01:30 chillbeast would i be in right place, if i'm looking to get openmoko running on my G1?
01:30 dcordes it involves linux kernel on htc phone so it's not a bad place
01:31 chillbeast cool heh
01:31 dcordes Gnutoo, leviathan and mickeyl also have the g1 and have similar aim
01:31 chillbeast wasn't sure if there was a more specific place for that particular port
01:31 chillbeast those are the guys working on it
01:31 chillbeast so cool
01:31 dcordes yes
01:32 chillbeast thanks :D
01:32 dcordes please read the wiki
01:32 chillbeast anyone around who has that setup running?
01:32 dcordes the dream page
01:32 chillbeast yah that's what brought me here
01:32 dcordes may I ask where you found it?
01:33 chillbeast uhhhh lemme see if i still have that page pulled up
01:33 dcordes it's only to improve our service :D please select following: tv ad, print or friends?
01:33 chillbeast lol
01:33 chillbeast actually i tihnk i found this irc channel here: http://gitorious.org/htc-msm-2-6-32/leviathan-incoming
01:33 chillbeast think
01:34 dcordes ok
01:35 dcordes a good channel for discussing the more userspace based openmoko things is #openmoko-cdevel
01:38 dcordes Markinus, the leo amss para patch has any impact?
01:38 dcordes on functionality?
01:39 Markinus dcordes: this isn'T for leo only, is to use one kernel of multiply devices
01:40 Markinus else you have to compile it for every new . .
01:40 Markinus dcordes: in the moment it'S only a prototyp for 1550
01:40 Markinus dcordes: we have to fill it . .
01:41 dcordes so that's a no? I only read some "good news" line..
01:41 Markinus dcordes: it'S about the IRQ problems
01:41 dcordes I have seen that amss mechanism in the htc-msm-2.6.27 fork
01:41 Markinus dcordes: we have a solution
01:42 dcordes ill read log real quick
01:42 Markinus dcordes: ok :)
01:42 Markinus dcordes: the problem on amss is now to find the right 1550 parameters . .
01:46 dcordes git pull
01:53 balsat Already up-to-date.
02:16 dcordes balsat, no it had new stuff
02:18 stinebd neat, ril still works
02:18 no2chem so question
02:18 no2chem if rhodium_w and rhodium are supposedly so similar
02:18 no2chem why is there board-htcraphael and board-htcdiamond
02:18 no2chem and
02:19 no2chem board-htctopaz and board-htcrhodium?
02:19 stinebd no keyboard vs keyboard?
02:20 no2chem but then why shouldn't i make a board-htcrhodiumw, for example
02:20 stinebd all rhods have keyboards
02:20 no2chem its a different processor =p
02:20 stinebd go ahead and make one then, nobody's stopping you
02:20 no2chem well
02:20 no2chem someone indicated not to because it'd make a mess
02:20 MrPippy there is a lot of code duplicated between the board- files, but raph vs. diam vs. topaz vs. rhod are all different enough to have different mach types, so we have different files
02:21 no2chem but rhodium_w isn't?
02:21 no2chem aren't (a few) of the gpios different, at the minimum?
02:22 no2chem not trying to incite anything, just trying to understand
02:22 MrPippy nope, not that i know of
02:22 no2chem hms
02:23 no2chem meh, okay
02:23 AstainHellbring hi
02:23 stinebd good day sir
02:23 bzo there's no right or wrong way to organize them, but the precedent is to have board files for families of devices, and deal with varients within those boards
02:23 bzo look at the htcraphael ones for an example of dealing with gsm vs cdma for example
02:23 no2chem yeah,
02:23 no2chem i know
02:23 no2chem well
02:24 no2chem raphael i know for sure
02:24 no2chem has different gpios for cdma/gsm.. but even within gsm there are different gpio mappings
02:24 no2chem so
02:24 no2chem but
02:25 no2chem i guess what i mean is, the board for rhodium(gsm) and topaz(gsm) have to be much more similar to each other than the board for rhodium (cdma) to rhodium(gsm)
02:25 MrPippy you'd think so, but they really aren't
02:25 dcordes no2chem, hi again
02:25 no2chem hi
02:26 dcordes added the link on the frontpage
02:26 no2chem well meh
02:26 MrPippy topaz has different BT/wifi
02:26 no2chem oh good
02:26 no2chem ill update with some data i suppose
02:26 no2chem memory layout would be a good start
02:26 dcordes MrPippy, it has different BT/wifi?
02:26 no2chem isn't it that bcm chip?
02:27 MrPippy topaz has TI bt/wifi like every other htc, rhod has the bcm
02:27 dcordes MrPippy, as in different ICs?
02:27 dcordes ok
02:28 MrPippy at some point we might find some difference for rhodW, like the headphone jack
02:29 no2chem eh
02:29 no2chem not just that
02:29 AstainHellbring tmobile rhod has headphone jack
02:29 no2chem the bcm chip is routed differently
02:29 no2chem some other oddities as well
02:30 no2chem ...do we still use that same really old version of haret?
02:30 no2chem heh
02:32 bzo the old haret may boot the kernel, but you'll want a newer one if you need to debug
02:32 no2chem oh, does it add msm gpio support?
02:32 no2chem cause i remember the old one doesn't...
02:32 no2chem well, off to find the new one
02:33 MrPippy t-mobile rhod doesn't have a headphone jack
02:33 bzo yeah, you may want to compile your own
02:33 ToAsTcfh bzo i still never got the oc patch to work. im thinking it may be another issue other then kernel
02:34 bzo ToAsTcfh: that may be so
02:34 ToAsTcfh i have an unlocked spl now but i dont think thatll make much differance
02:35 no2chem hms
02:35 no2chem san diego eh?
02:35 no2chem im moving there in a few months, heh
02:37 MrPippy nice where are you now?
02:37 no2chem eh, irvine
02:38 ToAsTcfh bzo we finally got a leaked .29 kernel now also. so most attention of hacking .27 is out the window on our forum
02:38 ToAsTcfh sux
02:39 bzo you guys are using a binary or building your own .29?
02:39 dcordes there must be some haret sutf fin wiki
02:39 no2chem yes
02:39 dcordes blah time for a rest
02:39 dcordes gnight
02:39 no2chem night dcordes
02:39 ToAsTcfh binary
02:40 no2chem probably would be important to fix haret too... apparently it leaves crap in wm running?
02:40 ToAsTcfh we got a leaked build
02:40 bzo no2chem: yeah, cr2 suggested we shut down rpc in haret before starting the kernel
02:41 no2chem well, if rpc is functioning, that means the WM kernel is still being called from time to time?
02:41 bzo ToAsTcfh: well, I imagine they will release the source at some point
02:41 ToAsTcfh bzo its funny though cuz in aosp builds the touch screen isnt working but in all htc builds it does
02:41 ToAsTcfh with the .29 kernel
02:41 no2chem i dunno, guess i'll look at haret source
02:42 bzo no2chem: I don't think so, I believe those rpc connections are just left hanging
02:42 no2chem oh
02:42 bzo and causing problems like hanging when trying to shut down
02:42 no2chem maybe a reset would be a better idea
02:43 no2chem well maybe not, since one of the reasons you use haret
02:43 bzo MrPippy mapped reset to shutdown to avoid that problem...
02:43 no2chem is to skip initing the stuff wm does
02:44 bzo ultimately the goal is to boot directly to android w/o wince or haret
02:44 no2chem well
02:44 no2chem thats easy enough, once you get the init down
02:44 no2chem er
02:44 no2chem and the NAND down
02:44 no2chem =p
02:45 bzo I think most things are getting init now
02:45 no2chem well
02:45 bzo At least one person has a one off nand setup working
02:45 no2chem oh?
02:45 no2chem not bad.
02:45 no2chem well, i apparently ate the microsd card i had in my hand
02:45 no2chem great.
02:45 no2chem ...
02:45 no2chem dont ask
02:45 stinebd don't worry, they digest well
02:46 no2chem i hope so
02:46 no2chem good thing it was only a 512
02:46 stinebd after the agonizing pain, you'll be fine
02:46 MrPippy but are they booting directly into it? i thought it was just data/system stored in nand, along with a small wince to run haret and boot from
02:47 no2chem well i dunno, it went down with a few apple chips
02:47 bzo MrPippy: could be. I've just overheard someone talking about running in nand with phh
02:48 MrPippy calkulin posted a tiny wince rom in our tp2 android forum that leaves 394MB of free storage memory (nand), might be possible
02:48 stinebd i think it was chamonix doing the nand voodoo
02:49 bzo yeah, stinebd
02:50 AstainHellbring stinebd isnt the end goal also something like vogue where it can be flashed to nand and do full boot direct from nand?
02:51 stinebd yes
02:51 stinebd pretty much as bzo said ;)
02:52 bzo MrPippy: once the system is in nand, would we avoid a bunch of cpu usage like we do with mmc?
02:53 bzo err, like we have with mmc
02:54 MrPippy yeah we should, and it should be faster
02:54 bzo blech, especially on the diamond with the slow internal flash
02:55 no2chem you mean moviNAND? lol
02:55 Jdshadowline who / what are we talking about and you have me intrigued.
02:55 Jdshadowline :P
02:55 Unholy hey can any of you help me i got android booting from a ext2 partion just fine, but it fails to see my other 2 fat32 parttions, wince sees them just fine
02:55 Jdshadowline btw hello all
02:55 no2chem well, looks like im out to go buy a microsd now
02:56 Jdshadowline stop eating them
02:56 mcdull is the 3D on rhod working now? I've seen some commit about it, but I have no idea on why the commit enables it.
02:56 Jdshadowline and you wouldnt have to buy more
02:56 no2chem well
02:57 no2chem i dunno wtf happend there
02:57 no2chem i guess handling a microsd and eating isn't a good idea
02:58 no2chem 8gb for 17$? ... that should be ok right
02:58 no2chem as long as its not class2?
02:59 no2chem or should i got for some class6 card
02:59 randomblame make sure your next one is rohs complient in case you eat it too
02:59 randomblame don't want too much lead in your system
02:59 no2chem meh
02:59 no2chem i probably have enough from soldering in my bedroom
02:59 randomblame with the windows and blinds closed and the lights off?
02:59 randomblame :D
03:00 no2chem 'i have a vent
03:00 no2chem but i do a lot of skillet reflow =D
03:00 AstainHellbring skillet reflow?
03:00 bzo heard of toaster oven reflow, but never skillet...
03:01 randomblame I shoved my old geforce 8 in the oven to reflow it's solder
03:01 randomblame worked well
03:01 randomblame wife hated me for a month
03:01 randomblame food tasted better though
03:02 MrPippy wow and nothing else melted on the board?
03:02 randomblame nope nothing at all
03:02 no2chem nah
03:02 no2chem skillet is pretty good
03:03 randomblame actually I take that back one of the stickers did not survive
03:03 no2chem you put the whole board on the skillet
03:03 no2chem turn it up until the paste reflows
03:03 no2chem and instant board
03:03 no2chem course you could use it to desolder, but prying parts off the skillet is a pain
03:03 bzo hmm, does seem like it could be faster than the oven
03:03 stinebd stupid oven with its preheating
03:04 no2chem the temp curve is pretty.. straight too
03:04 no2chem about 0.5 degC per second, .. though i guess it depends on the skillet
03:04 bzo electric or gas?
03:04 no2chem electric
03:04 Unholy can anyone help with the adb driver
03:04 no2chem some 25 dollar one i picked up at target..
03:04 Unholy its falling to install
03:05 randomblame but oven heating is more surrounding, heat comes from top bottom and all sides
03:05 no2chem probably could do an entire motherboard with it, heh.
03:05 no2chem yeah, stuff tends to slip around in the oven
03:05 no2chem in the skillet i just place and turn it on
03:06 randomblame lol cooking oil?
03:06 no2chem anywho... new microsd... and no more eating chips while handling electronic chips..
03:07 Jdshadowline slaps no2chem for trying to eat computer parts. Thats not how you turn into a cyborg....
03:08 randomblame anyone else running virtualbox mis their numpad
03:19 Unholy do i have to use any modified driver for adb?
03:19 Unholy cus evrything i try fails to install
03:22 mcdull Unholy: what system?
03:23 Unholy eclair 2.0.1 on a ext2 parttion
03:23 Unholy um using balsat autobuilds
03:29 Unholy did i get dc?
03:36 mcdull Unholy: I mean your desktop
03:36 Unholy ohh
03:36 Unholy lol win7
03:44 Unholy ok anyone wants to help me with my andorid on ext2 parttion, its not detecting my sdcard
03:48 mcdull Unholy: for windows, you need to change usb to single interface or it will not pick up any devices.
03:48 makkonen ~usb_function_switch
03:48 apt somebody said usb_function_switch was /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch
03:48 makkonen echo 2 > that place
03:48 mcdull true.
03:50 Unholy how do i do that
03:50 mcdull and, most of the android now uses the partition settings like (FAT32 / ext2 / ext2 / swap) or Simply FAT32 / ext /ext
03:51 mcdull Unholy: edit the conf file in the conf folder.
03:51 mcdull the bottom part.
03:51 Unholy ok
03:51 Unholy can you tell me the whole line tha ti have to place in my conf
03:52 mcdull echo 2 > /sys/devices/platform/msm_hsusb/usb_function_switch
03:53 Unholy exacly like that right?
03:59 Hoochster evenin party people
04:01 Unholy meh it still wont let me install the adb driver
04:03 Unholy ah wait the conf wont work
04:03 Unholy since android is nto detecting the sdcard
04:03 Unholy for some reason
05:01 MrPippy for anyone who wants to try a tssc_manager patch, try uncommenting this line tssc_reg->tssc_ctl.command_wr = 1;
05:02 MrPippy seemed better to me, but i only tried it on rhod (and the TS on diam always seemed worse)
05:02 Unholy hey mrpippy you familiar with android on ext2 partions?
05:02 MrPippy no not really
05:02 Unholy ah k nvm then XD
05:04 Hoochster whatoop MrPippy heh
05:05 MrPippy hey
05:05 Hoochster hows stardom?
05:24 Alka g night's
05:24 Alka anyone know what is mpd_ppp: img is of wrong format
05:39 Alka anyone up?
06:23 ToAsTcfh phh: this is dmesg from a .29 kernel for the heroc with camera working. note that vfe is still giving the same issue. the camera works fine in all builds though
06:23 ToAsTcfh phh: http://pastebin.com/UYRJ2b9d
06:55 randomblame hmm I just got more information from my second most annoying bug
06:57 randomblame msm_gpio_set_function could not set alt function 108 => 0
06:57 randomblame anyone have any experiance with this?
07:14 randomblame I think gpio.c is muffing everything up
07:14 randomblame that would explain the hang on vsync setup
07:43 ptesmoke hey guys, is there a channel to discuss xdandroid?
07:45 mcdull here.
08:20 ptesmoke is there anyway to increase in call volume yet? im running latest build on diamond500
08:20 DaveWM yes
08:20 DaveWM actually i dunno
08:20 ptesmoke other than that and battery life, it runs perfect
08:20 ptesmoke lol dave tell me how haha
08:21 DaveWM there's a button on the side of your device, that teeters back and forth
08:21 DaveWM the one pointed upward
08:21 ptesmoke ye ai mean a hack liek the winmo audiopara
08:21 DaveWM is for turning the volume up...
08:21 DaveWM yeah
08:21 ptesmoke max aint loud at all
08:21 ptesmoke can barely hear, if i can fix that id use android daily
08:22 DaveWM i don't really know much about xdandroid as of yet, i'm just haning here so i know the very instant something is a little more functional on my raph800
08:22 ptesmoke have you tried it yet?
08:22 DaveWM of course
08:22 DaveWM i got it on my phone, its just not all that great yet
08:22 ptesmoke whats not working on the raph?
08:22 DaveWM camera, gps, and bluetooth are not working
08:23 DaveWM and i coudlnt seem to get wifi working, probably something i could work out though
08:23 ptesmoke yea but those arent essential,
08:23 DaveWM camera kind of is to me
08:23 ptesmoke wifi i found i needed a fresh install on my sd
08:23 DaveWM and bt would be nice, cause i do use that a little
08:23 ptesmoke oh, i dont use my camera like ever, bt i rarely use
08:23 ptesmoke gps or bt i use for long road trips, which i can just use winmo for that
08:23 DaveWM although I started thinking today, that the camera on the touchpro isnt really all that great anyway
08:24 DaveWM seems a bit slow, and i hate the fact that it doesnt make use of a regular flash.. you have to actually turn the light on on it
08:24 ptesmoke ive never liked any cameras built into phones
08:24 DaveWM which that's somewhat software... but still, i tried to get a shot of 4 deer in the dark a little while ago when i was driving, and it took forever to get a shot, and then it was too dark to see anything
08:24 ptesmoke yea at least you have one lol , diamond doesnt even have a flash
08:24 DaveWM yeah, htc needs to take those a step further
08:25 DaveWM but then i don't iknow how the cams on the newer htc devices are, they may be better
08:25 ptesmoke and led flashes just dont cut it
08:25 DaveWM yeh
08:25 ptesmoke you need a xenon flash like the sony's
08:25 ptesmoke but i mean, my phone is a phone, my camera is a camera....
08:25 DaveWM also, another button on the edge of the phone to just snap a shot no matter what state your phone is in, that'd be sweet
08:25 DaveWM i think more ppl would make use of them then
08:26 ptesmoke yea instead of browsing to the damn camera lol
08:26 ptesmoke very true
08:26 DaveWM yea i got a camera, but my camera is kind of large, i don't really carry it around with me
08:26 DaveWM the camera phones are nice for catching that random shit along the way
08:27 DaveWM but if its in the dark, i guess you may as well not bother
08:27 DaveWM heh
08:27 ptesmoke true, on the other hand my gf always has her sony cam in her purse, so if we need pics hers is always there haha
08:27 DaveWM yea
08:27 DaveWM i may end up picking up one of those credid card sized cameras, just for the sake of having one that's easy to carry around with me
08:28 DaveWM cause these days it is pretty cool if you can catch a pick on the go, always see something you could be sharing with ppl
08:28 ptesmoke nikon makes a sweet ass waterproof cam thats really thin, ive been eyeing it for a while, but i just dont use them..
08:28 DaveWM http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoAct&fcategoryid=144&modelid=15207
08:28 DaveWM that's what i currently have
08:29 ptesmoke wow nice cam
08:29 DaveWM but like i said, its a bit bulky to just be carrying around with me everywhere
08:29 DaveWM i'd look like a tourist if i did
08:29 DaveWM heh
08:29 ptesmoke i think the one the gf has is a 12mp cybershot? whatever sonys model is they push all the time
08:29 DaveWM yeah
08:29 DaveWM they put high mp's on small cams now too
08:30 ptesmoke but i gotta grab some zzzzz, have a good night bro
08:30 DaveWM mine was nice when i first got it, high end, but now i could get all the same features in something that fits in my pocket
08:30 DaveWM g'night
08:54 Untouchab1e hi all
09:03 DaveWM howdy
11:28 niklas hey this might be a very stupid question but i wanne get into the kernel prgorgramming...but how does this whole git thing work?...how do i download the files i want to work with and how to i put them on my phone?
11:35 the-nj hey this might be a very stupid question but i wanne get into the kernel prgorgramming...but how does this whole git thing work?...how do i download the files i want to work with and how to i put them on my phone?
12:11 dcordes Markinus, ping
12:11 Markinus dcordes: pong
12:12 dcordes Markinus, just tried to boot htc-qsd8k-2.6.29 kernel but it freezes in haret
12:12 dcordes Markinus, I think it's wrong settings in default.txt
12:13 dcordes Markinus, or htcleo_defconfig must be updated
12:13 Markinus dcordes: I can pastebin a default.txt
12:13 dcordes that would be nice
12:13 Markinus htcleo_defconfig is working, but I have a newer one, I did some things in the morning and will now push
12:14 Markinus dcordes: http://pastebin.com/EehGGwu8
12:15 dcordes Markinus, ok thank you
12:17 dcordes works
12:18 dcordes Markinus, not
12:18 Markinus dcordes: :)
12:19 dcordes the messages come up very slow and it dumps trace
12:19 dcordes then reboots with panic
12:19 Markinus dcordes: freezes in Haret? And you pulled?
12:20 dcordes nono not in haret
12:20 Markinus dcordes: ahh, ok. Yes, this is what we have, we can boot with enabled IRQs
12:20 dcordes didn't pull yet
12:20 Markinus dcordes: but today yes?
12:20 Markinus (changes from yesterday)
12:20 dcordes removed not more needed hacks
12:20 dcordes is what I'm using now
12:20 Markinus ok
12:21 dcordes so you get the same thing when booting this version? is that caused by the enabled irq?
12:21 Markinus dcordes: you should come till "Freeing init memory"
12:21 dcordes let me see if I get that
12:22 Markinus dcordes: we searched the whole time the IRQ problem, so the stand is the same but without the IRQ hacks. I enabled now some thinks like RPC, Network, smd, RTC . ..
12:23 dcordes slab: Internal list corruption detected in cache..
12:23 dcordes kernel bug at mm/slab.c
12:23 dcordes Markinus, want ramconsole?
12:24 Markinus dcordes: we have ramconsole?!
12:25 Markinus dcordes:aahh ok :)
12:25 Markinus yes, send please
12:25 Markinus pastebin or so
12:25 Markinus di oyu have a initrd file?
12:26 dcordes myramconsole.txt only has garbage
12:26 dcordes :(
12:26 dcordes yes I boot with 7M initrd
12:27 dcordes trying without..
12:27 Markinus dcordes: hmmmmm intresting . .
12:27 dcordes now messages show up fast until the crash
12:27 dcordes it crashes after Memory: lines
12:27 Markinus dcordes: you know this is filled every next boot? You need to boot twice with this config?
12:27 Markinus default.txt
12:28 Markinus dcordes: yes, we have crash problems... I look to it . .
12:31 Markinus decordes: try this http://www.netripper.com/leo/initrd-netripper-busybox.cpio.gz
12:31 Markinus decordes: is from netripper, but he doeasn't know whether it works or not. But I'm using this too. .
12:32 dcordes Markinus, same crash problem with or without initrd
12:32 dcordes without the initrd it just boots faster
12:52 dcordes Markinus, so I understand it right you can't boot either and get that same kernel panic?
12:53 Markinus dcordes: I get it after Free init memory . .then crash . .but I find already one think, I'M working on it
12:57 dcordes Markinus, ok I don't think I'm seeing the Freeing init mem line
12:57 dcordes I'll bbl
12:58 Markinus dcordes: hmm . . .did you try this initrd what I posted?
12:58 Cass1 he just left
13:26 Captnoord I hope dcordes knows he should enable ramconsole in pmem.c
15:14 Tigerzen test
15:18 Tigerzen Markinus
15:19 Markinus test
15:19 Markinus :)
15:19 Tigerzen you got an message on boot "smb_alloc_vhannel () cid=...."
15:20 Tigerzen you got an message on boot "smb_alloc_channel () cid=...."
15:20 Tigerzen I see green screen then freeze
15:21 Tigerzen Freeing init memory: 124k
16:04 Markinus Tigerzen: yes . .
16:07 AstainHellbring morning
16:14 Hoochster morn
16:15 AstainHellbring whats new?
16:16 Hoochster the sky is blue
17:34 NetRipper lol Markinus you're on fire with the commits
17:34 NetRipper :)
17:34 Markinus NetRipper: Hi, a bit :)
17:35 Markinus NetRipper: I'M this week at home at have time . .
17:35 NetRipper ah
17:35 NetRipper does msm_fb work for you already?
17:35 NetRipper as you enabled mdp and added a panel
17:36 Markinus NetRipper: no, there is somewhere a problem. I can disable the htc_fb and the other fb is comming, the first screen is okay but then I've problems with the update, the screen is "scrolling"
17:36 Markinus NetRipper: maybe you could take a look, maybe you'Ve a Idea what'S wrong
17:36 NetRipper ok
17:37 NetRipper will take a look at it probably tomorrow
17:37 Markinus NetRipper: I'm to launch . . . ok
17:37 NetRipper to luanch?
17:38 NetRipper launch*
17:52 Markinus NetRipper: back . .
17:54 Markinus NetRipper: ohh, lunch :)
17:58 NetRipper ah :P
17:59 NetRipper i'm just done with work, so tim eto go home and have some dinner
17:59 NetRipper laters :)
18:00 Markinus bye
18:19 emwe hello
18:56 Alka anyone up?
18:57 makkonen yes
18:58 Alka makkonen: after commint at rootfs: Set init to read RIL from rootfs instead of /system in init.cfg/init.eclair.rc has changed from /lib/eclair/libhtcgeneric-ril.so to /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so
18:58 Alka appear broke radio when update last rootfs or delete data.img
18:59 Alka when check files it dont have same permission, this can broke radio?
19:01 Alka ** if you know sorry
19:01 Alka this is permission for each file in diferrent directory
19:01 Alka -rwxr-xr-x /lib/eclair/libhtcgeneric-ril.so /old rootfs use this and works fine
19:01 Alka -rw-r--r-- /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so //new build use this and not work
19:02 makkonen no, the old rootfs use /system/lib/libhtcgeneric-ril.so, and the new one uses /lib/eclair/libhtcgeneric-ril.so
19:03 Alka yep are you correct
19:03 phh [22:29:41] <no2chem> right, not on this phone yet
19:03 phh [22:29:42] <no2chem> heh.
19:03 phh [22:29:50] <no2chem> ... i suppose thats on the list:?"
19:03 phh I think I'd prefer keep a rootfs actually.
19:03 Alka but anyway it broke radio
19:03 makkonen alka: what device?
19:03 Alka RHOD tilt2
19:04 phh no need to update every single build when we update something like sensors.
19:04 phh Alka: do you happen to have a force_cdma option in startup.txt ?
19:05 Alka yes
19:05 Alka force_cdma=1
19:05 stinebd tilt2 is gsm, not cdma ;)
19:06 emwe phh: any objections about me pushing a small pwrsink setup module to linux-msm?
19:06 Alka then this is the poblem , force_cdma is for cdma phones just
19:06 phh emwe: if it works, not at all
19:06 phh Alka: I guess you got babijoee's build.
19:06 emwe phh: kk.
19:06 polyrhythmic I actually really like the no-rootfs way that vogue/kais/polaris are using
19:06 polyrhythmic we just use androidupdate.tgz to do incremental updates
19:06 polyrhythmic no rootfs is way eaiser for n00bs
19:06 phh don't care about noobs
19:07 phh I care about deving.
19:07 polyrhythmic haha ok then
19:07 phh one week ago, k_linux released a build with broken SMS
19:07 phh which bug has been fixed weeks ago
19:07 phh with updated rootfs.
19:07 phh just because we used the one in system.sqsh
19:08 phh people who makes android builds shouldn't have to worry about so low end stuff
19:08 makkonen I like the vogue style... but just having the rootfs separate seems to work better with the high number of changes that are coming out on a regular basis on this side.
19:09 makkonen vogue development seems to be a lot cleaner and more stable at this point. a smaller number of updates coming down every day/week.
19:09 polyrhythmic to each their own... we have pretty rapid changes and I prefer pushing out a 150Kb zip with new drivers than repacking and uploading a 15MB .img
19:09 stinebd eh, we don't repack or upload anything ;)
19:09 phh polyrhythmic: android builder doesn't upload 15MB.
19:09 phh only the system.sqsh, when he wants
19:10 phh we maybe should do apps (wince and android) for noobs to update correctly though.
19:10 polyrhythmic right, but I'm talking about 'rootfs' updates... just libs etc
19:10 polyrhythmic you can use 1 androidupdate.tgz for multiple builds as long as the path is the same
19:10 phh only stinebd has to upload rootfs changes.
19:10 phh which is fast.
19:10 stinebd not even i do :D
19:10 stinebd it does everything on its own
19:10 phh that's what I meant :p
19:11 polyrhythmic well sweet it sounds like you guys have a better automated system of some sort
19:11 phh oh yeah.
19:11 stinebd phh: i set up the ril build bot btw
19:11 phh thanks to glemsom and stinebd :p
19:11 phh stinebd: cool
19:11 polyrhythmic our users used to get confused with several rootfs running around for different devices & builds
19:11 phh stinebd: sensors too ?
19:11 Alka makkonen, stinebd and phh thank you you are correct force_cdma=0
19:11 phh polyrhythmic: only one rootfs, one kernel for everyone
19:11 Captnoord r4 = ( r0 * ( ( 250 - batt_temp ) * temp_current ) ) / 10000;
19:11 phh that's the key.
19:11 stinebd phh: no sensors yet, but it can be done
19:11 Captnoord temperature correction
19:11 Captnoord :P
19:11 hfcTsAoT phh u get my link I sent last night?
19:12 phh hfcTsAoT: I'm reading backlog.
19:12 polyrhythmic hmm I should take a look at your bots then, I'm always for doing less work if a script can do it for me :))
19:12 phh people flooded just after I got to sleep, and you keep flooding me right now, so it's hard to follow two conversations :p
19:12 stinebd we still use sensors in /system right?
19:12 phh polyrhythmic: seriously, now developing on this project is a dream
19:12 bzo stinebd: please create auto bug fixer bot :P
19:12 phh stinebd: we need a mount --bind.
19:13 stinebd phh: ok
19:13 polyrhythmic lol @ bzo
19:13 stinebd bzo: phh has already been written
19:13 stinebd ;)
19:13 hfcTsAoT tru I did dmesg on the camera in our .29 kernel. vfe still doesn't start but yet camera works
19:13 bzo can we fork phh a few times
19:14 phh -_-'
19:15 polyrhythmic $ repo init -u git://github.com/phh/manifest.git
19:15 phh polyrhythmic: mmmuh ?
19:15 polyrhythmic trying to get my own bot :P
19:15 phh lol
19:15 phh I have a github account with some funny stuff on it still :p
19:18 hfcTsAoT phh anyhow I ping u with the entire dmesg
19:34 Hoochster run is MrPippy
19:36 Captnoord sings "run to the hills.... run for your life!!"
19:36 Hoochster bangs head!
19:39 Captnoord bleh....
19:39 Captnoord arm asm is evil
19:41 [1]Captnoord arm asm is evil
19:41 [1]Captnoord ADD R5, R3, R3,LSR#31
19:42 [1]Captnoord is
19:42 [1]Captnoord if ( r3 >= 0 )
19:42 [1]Captnoord r5 = r3 + 1;
19:42 [1]Captnoord else
19:42 [1]Captnoord r5 = r3;
19:42 [1]Captnoord :S
19:42 [1]Captnoord bleh
19:44 ToAsTcfh phh: http://pastebin.com/UYRJ2b9d <<~~~ the link again
19:44 phh yeah I got it
19:44 ToAsTcfh what u think?
19:45 ToAsTcfh its def a cleaner runnin qdsp5 for sure :P
19:45 phh it's using compat API ?
19:45 phh grep -rFi compat qdsp5
19:47 ToAsTcfh i dont have the source for the kernel
19:48 ToAsTcfh :(
19:48 ToAsTcfh thats why im back to making camera work in .27
19:48 phh lol.
19:48 phh I'd hate having a CDMA phone.
19:48 ToAsTcfh they actually changed the touch driver too
19:49 dcordes Markinus, http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=2b260dd1f15a04ce9dfda4dd58710ceb39cccae5 will this probably break other devices?
19:49 ToAsTcfh the touch driver only works with htc modified frameworks
19:49 ToAsTcfh no touch in aosp builds
19:49 Markinus dcordes: we need this for all wince devices
19:50 ToAsTcfh phh: yeah its a leaked kernel from a watermarked build
19:50 phh ToAsTcfh: ok
19:50 ToAsTcfh its kinda a power hog too
19:50 phh ToAsTcfh: I love those closed-open-source stuff.
19:51 dcordes Markinus, I think it is good to not move away too far from the google kernel
19:51 ToAsTcfh yeah htc is getting dumb about this shti
19:51 Captnoord ToAsTcfh: it got more debug strings and stuff?
19:51 ToAsTcfh yeah
19:52 Captnoord gimme
19:52 Captnoord :P
19:52 ToAsTcfh for the heroc
19:52 ToAsTcfh no source
19:52 Captnoord hehe
19:52 ToAsTcfh binary
19:52 Captnoord I don't need the source to get the strings
19:52 ToAsTcfh its a htc test kenel
19:52 Captnoord perfect
19:52 ToAsTcfh oh
19:52 Captnoord even more stuff in it
19:53 Captnoord waves his reverse engineer wand over it.. and wonders what happens
19:53 ToAsTcfh lol we need to revers it for our selves
19:53 Markinus dcordes: we can do this mach depend too. So I've to go, it's CL and Beer time :)
19:53 Markinus bye
19:53 Captnoord hell yea
19:53 ToAsTcfh hold up and ill send the boot.img
19:54 Captnoord k
19:54 phh Captnoord: then grep for gzip magic in boot.img
19:54 Captnoord k
19:54 phh zImage is the first occurence of this magic
19:54 Captnoord 0x78 ... k
19:54 phh don't know :p
19:54 Captnoord zlib was 0x78
19:54 Captnoord nah
19:54 phh I always do echo plop |gzip -c > t.gz
19:54 Captnoord i'll find it
19:54 phh od -x t.gz
19:54 phh just that :p
19:54 dcordes Markinus, yes ok have fun
19:54 Captnoord k
19:56 ToAsTcfh <Captnoord> http://geekfor.me/toastcfh/boot.img
19:56 ToAsTcfh phh: so any ideas on the camera ?
19:56 phh no
19:57 ToAsTcfh :/
19:58 ToAsTcfh comparing the dmesgs it looks like adsp_init is the issue in ours i believe
19:58 Wout oi
19:59 ToAsTcfh msm_enqueue: queue control new max is 1
19:59 ToAsTcfh msm_adsp_enable() 'VFETASK'state[0] id[17227140]
19:59 Captnoord Wout: oi... got nice progress
19:59 Captnoord need more time and stuff
19:59 Captnoord and the temperature math to work
19:59 Captnoord but I got it
20:00 ToAsTcfh <Captnoord> if u manage to reverse it let me know please :)
20:00 Captnoord hehe
20:00 Captnoord I hope
20:01 Wout Captnoord: through the chip you mentioned? or bruteforce?
20:01 ToAsTcfh even though i guess u wont be worried about making it heroc :P
20:02 Captnoord Wout nah TI has some nice documents about estimating battery level with some hard shit.... math
20:03 ToAsTcfh <Captnoord> although if u reversed the camera driver alone i would be stoked
20:03 Wout sounds like a challenge ;)
20:04 phh ToAsTcfh: we already have the sources of it ...
20:04 phh most likely.
20:06 bzo phh: do you know anything about the SDP server in bluetooth?
20:06 ToAsTcfh phh: i know the source is there. i just would like to see it backported
20:07 phh bzo: really little
20:07 phh ToAsTcfh: tsss
20:07 ToAsTcfh my ida skills suck too so using the binary as a refferance is no dice on my part
20:07 phh it's wwwwaaaaaayyyyy easier to port it on your own than revsering it.
20:08 ToAsTcfh well ive tried backporting it and ended up with the same thing maejrep did
20:08 bzo phh: maybe in klinux build, it is not configured correct. When connecting to headset, the SDP server cannot find a match, then the stack disconnects
20:08 ToAsTcfh adsp is the biggg killer
20:08 Captnoord yup... reversing is the hard shit
20:08 Captnoord :(
20:08 Captnoord I won't do lot today
20:08 Captnoord need to rest
20:08 Captnoord :P
20:08 phh bzo: ?!?
20:08 Captnoord my head hurts
20:09 ToAsTcfh lol
20:09 ToAsTcfh i gotta get back to work
20:09 bzo phh: http://pastebin.ca/1827955 - look around line 140
20:11 phh bzo: do a strace and see if there is no EPERM or ENOENT error
20:11 phh I'd say there is a missing file somewhere
20:11 phh bzo: tried tatoo's fm app ?
20:11 bzo phh: yes, I think you may be right. There is supposed to be an xml config for it, but I couldn't find it
20:11 bzo phh: no, haven't seen the fm app
20:11 phh ok
20:12 phh bzo: there is a config file in /system/etc/vacsomething iirc
20:12 phh failed, system/etc/firmware/vac_config.ini
20:12 phh and it's not xml.
20:12 phh ok.
20:12 bzo bah, let me see if I can find the strace log I did this weekend
20:17 ToAsTcfh phh this is the leaked heroc build all cleaned up. its got some nice features. also the multi touch home can now be activated by the home button.
20:17 chamonix phh: any idea how far up I can go with XMPP keep-alive on gtalk?
20:17 phh chamonix: at least 30minutes
20:17 ToAsTcfh its alot nicer then all the previous builds
20:17 phh but you're allowed to make it way higher if it works :D
20:18 chamonix kk let's try that.... I'm tested my newly added XMMP client to LedEffects as there is no client supporting braodcasts :)
20:19 chamonix s/as/oa
20:19 chamonix whatever.....
20:20 Captnoord lock<3>%s: Cannot get grp
20:20 Captnoord clk
20:20 Captnoord <3>%s: Cannot get imem
20:20 Captnoord hmmmm
20:20 Captnoord nice
20:21 Wout played around with a HTC legend today
20:21 Wout damn fine device
20:21 Wout if only it had a keyboard...
20:22 chamonix testing with SmackConfiguration.setKeepAliveInterval(1000*60*30);
20:22 phh chamonix: concerning the weird 3G not working for some providers
20:23 phh old RIL (ie before october or november) works
20:23 chamonix yes
20:23 chamonix wow
20:23 phh I tried to read the commits since then
20:23 phh and nothing.
20:24 Wout btw, didnt want to post it to the bugtracker because it's quite vague, but I've noticed I need to reset my data connection quite a lot during the day. Sometimes I have a 3g indicator in the topbar, but the connection wont work.
20:25 Wout it happens mostly when I'm on the move (train) and it needs to switch between cell towers a lot
20:25 phh Wout: and how do you reste it ?
20:25 chamonix I encountered that 2 times in the last 3 weeks and airplane on/off works for me
20:26 phh chamonix: I'm waiting for Wout's answer :p
20:26 phh 6125 had some smd problems
20:26 chamonix sry :-X
20:26 Wout by switching airplane mode on and off
20:26 phh ok
20:26 phh "simple" RIL bug then
20:27 Wout is 'ril' closed? like the radio? or is it on the linux side?
20:28 phh Wout: linux side
20:28 phh but htc's ril is closed
20:28 phh so we have our own ril
20:29 Wout ril is the later between OS and Radio, right?
20:29 Wout layer*
20:29 phh errrrr
20:29 phh let's say yes.
20:29 Wout :P let's say I understand then
20:29 phh I could say the whole kernel is a layer between OS and radio, since the radio does pretty much everything :p
20:30 Wout well, hope you can figure out what's causing it down the line
20:30 phh that would mean I actually care about this bug :p
20:30 phh well first that I can reproduce it
20:31 Wout|food is there anything I can do when I encounter it to help debugging?
20:32 phh I guess you don't have a computer with you when it happens ? :p
20:32 phh where is my ubuntu build again.
20:34 Wout|food eeeh, laptop sometimes, but is there something I can do with pterminal?
20:35 phh not pterminal, but any real terminal app
20:35 phh as root (after a su), do logcat -b radio > /sdcard/logs.txt
20:37 bzo phh: ok, created a new strace log for btips. Only error I see is a bunch of EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)
20:37 phh don't trust your see, trust grep :p
20:41 Captnoord hmmm never loaded a zimage into ida
20:41 Captnoord hmmm....
20:41 Captnoord anyone has some idea how this is done best?
20:41 phh with obiwan kenobi!
20:41 Captnoord cr2 knows
20:41 Captnoord i'm sure
20:42 bzo phh: I only straced the btipsd process, is that sufficient during a pairing operation?
20:42 phh ye
20:42 phh s
20:42 bzo phh: ok, here it is: http://pastebin.ca/1830493
20:43 stinebd phh: where is an eclairhero system.sqsh?
20:43 phh stinebd: you mean a system.sqsh that uses init.eclairhero.rc ?
20:43 stinebd yeah
20:44 phh search blackstone android forum
20:44 phh espresso thing
20:44 stinebd ok thanks
20:44 bzo stinebd: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5775833
20:45 stinebd bzo: thanks
20:45 bzo hmm klinux updated the status: Bluetooth : turn ON/OFF pairs and A2DP works! but blac touchpad is desactivated and sound have echo of helicopter !
20:46 phh bzo: and no credits.
20:48 bzo phh: :/
20:50 phh k_linux: thanks for the credit for bluetooth.
20:55 Cadavre Hi
21:05 klinux hi guys
21:08 klinux phh: you r welcome I did it on the thread but forget on 1st page
21:09 klinux will correct this now
21:09 klinux phh : sorry man
21:12 chamonix phh: 30 min works fine, at least as long as I have a stable 3G connection
21:13 phh chamonix: I think the RIL receives the changed tower events, you want to do something with it ?
21:13 chamonix well, I get location changed event is Java from that too, it updated the location stuff of the closed API
21:14 phh (that makes me think I want quasseldroid working.)
21:14 stinebd haha
21:14 stinebd me too
21:14 chamonix what is quasseldroid?
21:14 phh stinebd: it crashes at connect for youi too ?
21:14 stinebd a quassel client for android
21:14 phh chamonix: quassel client for android
21:14 phh quassel is a client/server IRC client
21:14 stinebd phh: i havent even tried to use it yet
21:14 chamonix ok, and what is quassel?
21:15 phh basically a BNC
21:15 phh but wwwwaaaaaayyyy better.
21:15 chamonix awwww, kk
21:15 chamonix I'm old school and stick to my irssi running in a screen
21:15 phh not easy to use from a phone :p
21:16 chamonix y? ssh client wun everywhere
21:16 chamonix run*
21:16 phh oh right you have ctrl/alt buttons.
21:16 chamonix the nice thing with irssi is u have command for everything
21:16 chamonix and I have a keyboard on my phone :P
21:16 stinebd there is soooo much stuff in this build
21:17 phh stinebd: ?
21:17 stinebd espresso hero
21:17 phh what do you mean ?
21:17 phh too many apps ?
21:17 stinebd yeah
21:17 phh ah.
21:17 stinebd the app drawer scares me
21:17 phh stinebd: that makes me think.
21:17 phh when will you do a universal kitchen ? :p
21:17 phh *and* an AOSP builder for our devices
21:18 stinebd i'll do an aosp builder when i can get a working aosp built :(
21:18 phh ok :)
21:18 chamonix a propos build: did u guys get along with 01.03 build? because I didn't.....
21:18 stinebd i always end up with a broken calendar and music and other stuff
21:18 phh stinebd: need help ?
21:18 Wout|food can anyone recommend a terminal app that runs on android?
21:18 phh chamonix: I no longer use babijoee's build
21:18 phh Wout|food: connectbot
21:19 chamonix oh, what build r u using then phh ?
21:19 phh chamonix: the last I updated, meaning http://htcandroid.xland.cz/system.sqsh
21:19 Captnoord Wout: http://pastebin.com/1SQJ3Gbn
21:19 Captnoord bleh
21:19 phh nothing has been updated in it for ages now that everything is in rootfs
21:20 Captnoord if you ever wonder doing the same shit i'm doing...
21:20 Captnoord don't
21:20 Captnoord never even try
21:20 Captnoord bleh
21:20 chamonix well I had my problems with rootfs too so I went back to my last stable build
21:20 phh oh well concerning zImage and rootfs
21:20 phh I have no clue which one I use -_-'
21:21 chamonix lol
21:21 chamonix I tried the latest the day before yesterday together with 01.03 and gut sutck: dpad keys were all messed up and ril kep crashing
21:21 phh stinebd's fault.
21:22 phh ah no sorry
21:22 phh MrPippy's fault.
21:22 stinebd lol
21:22 chamonix so I rolled back to my latest 18hrs battery life build
21:22 stinebd the defacto rootfs blame goes to me ;)
21:22 chamonix lol
21:22 phh :p
21:22 chamonix well I admit I was too lazy to change RIL path
21:23 Wout Captnoord: it actually looks easier than I thought :P
21:23 chamonix and I guess I'll move my current stable from SD to NAND again and use SD for testing
21:23 Captnoord Wout thats with all this shit....
21:23 Captnoord if your doing it good
21:23 Captnoord you think its easy
21:24 phh chamonix: make a script.
21:24 Wout phh: what do I connect to with connectbot? I tried telnet localhost:23, but that just hangs on connect
21:24 chamonix phh: for what?
21:24 phh Wout: 192.168.20.1
21:24 phh chamonix: so that everyone can use NAND
21:24 phh (including me ? :p)
21:24 phh Wout: but there is a protocol called local
21:24 phh use it.
21:25 chamonix phh: isn't it that u have problems with the memory layout?
21:25 klinux forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5772290#post5772290
21:25 phh chamonix: on rhod ?
21:25 phh I don't think so :p
21:25 chamonix lol
21:25 chamonix ok, then I have another script to work on once I released LedEffects 0.6
21:26 phh and don't forget the app to resize data.img ! :p
21:26 klinux phh: correct my mistake
21:26 chamonix It's feature complete but I have some wor to do on battery
21:26 phh klinux: I've seen thanks
21:26 chamonix phh: that would be the other script :P
21:26 phh chamonix: want a new project on pjottr's bugtracker for your todolist ? :p
21:26 chamonix I can't doo much on tethering as long as my Wifi does not work
21:26 phh chamonix: usb tethering ?
21:27 chamonix yes, USB+Wifi -> 3G
21:27 phh you can do just usb I mean.
21:27 chamonix nah
21:29 Captnoord batt_level = ( ( ( ( temp_volt - batt_temp ) - voltage_0 ) + temp_correct_volt ) * 3 ) / ( ( voltage_1 - batt_temp ) - voltage_1 );
21:29 Captnoord bleh
21:29 Captnoord :P
21:30 phh Captnoord: no need for integer things then ?
21:30 Captnoord need to double check everything
21:30 Captnoord I need batt_temp
21:30 Captnoord which is the thingy with the doubles
21:30 Captnoord but
21:30 Captnoord i'll check
21:30 Captnoord if I can make that work differently
21:30 chamonix phh: btw I've tested all combinations of VDDs and freq settings..... there's at best no difference, at worst it's a battery drainer and reeeeealy slow
21:30 phh pffffff
21:30 phh ok
21:31 bzo chamonix: in your nand setup, do you boot zImage directly or use a small wince image with haret?
21:31 chamonix I'm just wondering because I read other far better test results and I'd like to know the difference
21:32 chamonix bzo: I boot haret and load from SD, root, system and data are on NAND
21:33 chamonix what I haven't done yet is to shut down SD after the boot because there are a few deps
21:33 bzo chamonix: ah, ok thx.
21:34 bzo Then, I misspoke yesterday. I thought we were able to boot the zImage directly
21:34 chamonix but I use the minimal windows to boot, not the plain wimo
21:34 phh bzo: if we could do that, I'd already have released it.
21:34 phh klinux: you don't know how to build your own kernel I think ?
21:35 bzo phh: hehe, yes I suppose so, though I got the impression that even chamonix setup was experimental
21:35 phh bzo: it relies on wince, and my tests on my diamonds didn't work
21:35 chamonix bzo: my setup is nothing elsa than a braindump from phh :)
21:35 phh so I prefered let it for him alone
21:36 chamonix babijoee wanted to test it based on my notes but I don't know if he got time for that
21:37 phh bzo: the *big* problem is that we need a different wince release for every board
21:37 phh and i really hate that
21:37 bzo what did dzo do for the vogue?
21:37 phh klinux: try http://husson.hd.free.fr/zImage.bt for the helicopter thing
21:38 phh bzo: tinboot
21:38 phh a boot loader which runs linux from the SPL
21:38 phh works fine for us
21:38 phh but we lack the init of many things
21:38 phh it's quite easy to try if you want
21:39 phh (quite easy = I think you can do it :p)
21:39 klinux phh: yes tried once and it works
21:40 phh klinux: bah too late I already built the changed one for you :p
21:40 phh tell me if it happen to works
21:40 chamonix phh: that's what I was saying earlier: D/NetworkLocationProvider( 1193): onCellLocationChanged [1121,17617]
21:40 phh chamonix: ?
21:40 phh chamonix: vogue is dec instead of hex ?
21:40 chamonix about the cell change event
21:40 phh ah.
21:40 phh right
21:41 phh but you have to explicitly ask for it
21:41 phh like gmaps does
21:41 chamonix no, it's from logcat so already translated
21:41 chamonix phh: no
21:41 phh ah.
21:41 phh weird
21:41 Captnoord bleh its anough for now
21:41 chamonix except my google latitude is asking
21:41 Captnoord saves,....
21:42 Captnoord nn all
21:42 klinux phh: will try it now
21:42 phh Wout: BIG question
21:42 phh where are the mics on rhod ?
21:42 phh and which ones ?
21:42 phh there is the easy one at the bottom near the call button
21:42 phh I think there is one in bank near the button
21:42 phh and I think there is one on the upper right side
21:42 phh how wrong do you think I am ? :p
21:43 Wout I think you're pretty spot on
21:43 Wout two on the back, one on the bottom
21:44 phh two on the back ?
21:44 chamonix phh: there was a commit getting rid of kernel wakelock stats right?
21:44 phh chamonix: yes
21:44 Wout think so, the speakerphone function uses dual mics
21:44 phh many kernel panics because of it
21:44 Wout thats what htc claims
21:44 chamonix ok, that explains this: W/BatteryStatsImpl( 1193): Couldn't get kernel wake lock stats
21:44 phh chamonix: yeah :/
21:45 chamonix I know, looking at logs is overrated :-D
21:45 phh no problem for such olds logs :p
21:46 phh especially if you don't use quassel :D
21:47 chamonix phh: the cell loc is a java broadcast u can register to: D/NetworkLocationProvider( 1193): addListener(): edu.mit.locale
21:47 Wout k phh, got connectbot setup, when it happens again tomorrow I'll save a dump for ya
21:47 phh Wout: the logcat won't stop, but don't worry
21:47 phh just reboot to kill it
21:47 phh or kill connectbot
21:47 Wout ok
21:49 k_linux phh: downloading
21:50 k_linux phh: I have the same pb as donut build avrcp kills the tachpad of black
21:50 phh you had that on donut oO
21:50 k_linux yes
21:50 phh hum.
21:50 phh logcat ?
21:50 k_linux phh: ok
21:55 k_linux http://pastebin.com/w6bPm5ST
21:58 phh stinebd: btw, why zip? isn't 7z better ?
21:58 stinebd phh: zip is installed on my server
21:58 phh ah.
21:58 phh right
21:59 stinebd i was gonna tar.lzma them but i figured all those windows users would get pissed at me heh
22:00 chamonix lol
22:00 phh :)
22:01 chamonix oh I forgot.... do u guys have any website u'd like to do some webanalytics on?
22:02 phh htcandroid.xland.cz ? :p
22:02 phh but no access on it :/
22:02 chamonix that's bad.... I have the tool but u'd need to add the javascript on the site
22:03 stinebd i've got webalizer on xdandroid.southcape.org
22:03 phh stinebd: the server that gets most of the trafic is xland though
22:03 stinebd for now
22:03 phh you want to steal its bandwidth ? :p
22:03 stinebd i see the rootfs growing in popularity though
22:04 phh how is your 200GB limit ? :p
22:04 chamonix stinebd: if u r interested, I can host ur stats on my piwik server
22:04 stinebd well i have geolocation, so i let north american users download from me and send everyone else to xland
22:04 stinebd roughly 30% of hits are from north america so my bandwidth is good
22:05 stinebd mod_rewrite is neat ;)
22:05 stinebd especially now that the geolocation doesn't segfault apache
22:07 stinebd 16GB used so far
22:08 phh with rootfs ?
22:08 stinebd everything in xdandroid.southcape.org. mostly rootfs
22:08 phh wow.
22:09 stinebd things have slowed down a lot since the 01.03 release
22:09 phh the system.sqsh should be almost not changed now
22:10 stinebd good, my server can't take another one of those :P
22:10 phh the plan is to be able to use android devices' system as is
22:10 phh well just a unzip && mksquashfs.
22:10 stinebd oh, and for that i'd like to set up rootfs to mount --bind the /etc/keymaps
22:10 cr2_ hi
22:10 stinebd guess i should do that now
22:11 stinebd while i remember it
22:11 phh stinebd: same for sensors
22:11 phh or even lib/hw
22:12 stinebd what should go in there for eclair?
22:13 phh not so sure, we should start from a clean AOSP for android devices to know
22:14 stinebd i'm building a generic one right now
22:14 stinebd i'll check it in about 3 days when it's done :(
22:14 k_linux phh: dmesg input: AVRCP as /class/input/input4
22:14 k_linux phh: even if no device is connected
22:14 cr2_ NetRipper: irq problem is a haret bug after all ?
22:15 phh k_linux: I really can't see :/
22:15 phh stinebd: hehe.
22:16 phh haha. no - with default linux keymap.
22:16 phh that's going to be easy
22:16 phh not even a / -_-'
22:18 k_linux phh: will try a2dp on my car as my laptop can't connect with
22:19 k_linux phh: did BT a2dp works on eclair ??
22:19 phh no
22:19 phh because of my lazyness (as usual ?)
22:19 k_linux phh: :)
22:20 k_linux phh: is it possible to use btips on it ??
22:20 phh no
22:20 phh you really need the whole propriatary stuff to have it working
22:21 k_linux phh: that means ?
22:21 phh framework
22:22 k_linux phh: will not be easy
22:22 phh I know
22:22 phh it would be easier and better to reverse btips features to AOSP
22:24 k_linux phh: some of guys who tried the last package have pb booting, I added the rootfs from git but not the latest
22:24 k_linux phh: I saw that libhtc ril was updated
22:25 phh hum starting shouldn't be a problem
22:25 phh meeehhh
22:25 phh ubuntu frozed
22:26 k_linux phh: even connexion pbs, but this was specific to all who have vodaphone
22:27 k_linux phh: maybe you should add back setupmodem.sh to rootfs
22:27 phh no
22:27 phh the problem is the ril
22:28 stinebd my fault?
22:28 phh lol no
22:29 stinebd oh well, maybe next time
22:29 k_linux phh: just an idea, if we have many init.rc specific to each device especialy to those which have pb connecting
22:29 phh k_linux: I won't do that ...
22:29 phh there is a bug in the RIL, we just have to fix it ...
22:29 k_linux phh: ok
22:50 klinux phh still the helicopter sound :)
22:56 MrPippy what is the ril bug?
23:00 stinebd ah damn lol
23:00 stinebd i put the ril in the wrong spot
23:08 chamonix not all vodafone users, I think only vodafone nl users
23:17 bzo MrPippy: did you see jnadke's post on getting cdma location from the ril in your diamond thread?
23:24 k_linux phh: still
23:24 k_linux here ?
23:25 k_linux any htc cdma DEV around ?
23:27 MrPippy yeah i did, that should be possible (since we have HTC_BSINFO), but i'm not sure how the java ril interface layer will treat a CDMA phone and if it'll cause a lot more problems or not
23:27 bzo it's never simple is it? :)
23:29 bzo k_linux: what do you need?
23:30 k_linux bzo: what's the state of cdma devices on eclair, I mean did 3G, wifi works ?
23:30 MrPippy yes
23:30 k_linux bzo: and BT chip is it the same as gsm ?
23:31 bzo yes
23:31 k_linux thx guys
23:32 k_linux I ask cause many people are complaining not having wifi, 3G, and BT on 2.1 with latest rootfs
23:33 Hoochster well do keep in mind MrPippy got the wifi and 3g on CDMA working but hasn't merged it yet
23:33 Hoochster so the latest probably doesn't have all that.
23:33 Hoochster guess MrPippy is here he could have answered that heh sorry
23:33 MrPippy for rhod wifi is merged, cdma voice/data isn't
23:33 MrPippy what device are you talking about?
23:36 MrPippy hmm the lat long given by HTC_BSINFO maps to about 2 miles from where i am, not too bad
23:38 bzo nice, having that location would be pretty useful given the state of gps right now
23:45 NetRipper cr2_, it's not neccesarily a bug in haret... it's something that should be added to hardwareShutdown() i suppose